Mike86

If anyone actually read my post and the post I was responding to they’d know that wasn’t my point but okay. I can’t have a point because I’m just a hater after all.

Abob Teff

Good thing Hokeyboy didn’t say Darth Vader ... you’d need a whole trilogy to explain that shit.

stingermck

The CW Flash show has given the character a lot of exposure. Since it's been on I've been surprised at the number of people i meet/know irl that watch it. People who are not even in to comics.

And Cyborg has plenty of exposure as well with the 2 Teen Titans cartoons, 1 currently airing. Kids watch that show, or at least the ones I know.

Mike86

The CW shows are actually good so it’s not surprising that the characters have found some popularity there. I still think the exposure there is somewhat limited because of the demographic the CW aims for but it’s easy to believe that The Flash has gotten somewhat popular. There’s Teen Titans Go! for Cyborg but that’s also a much more kid oriented show as opposed to what the films are aiming for. So it’s got an even more limited appeal. Yes, I said something positive about DC. Shock and awe to all the people who think I hate anything they do.

Ash Ketchum

George Lucas: "Hey, that's a great idea! I'll get on it right away!"

Kal-El

Henry Cavill's thoughts on the DCEU

Hokeyboy

Wait, what? Gen-X didn't grow up with Cyborg? I started reading about that character when I was 10! (46 now)

Big Boy Laroux

I believe the intent of that comment was about Cyborg not being in any other medium (outside of comics) until fairly recently (where he's been in Teen Titans, Teen Titans Go, Smallville, to name a few things).

I certainly haven't watched all the episodes, but i don't recall him ever making an appearance in JL cartoons...

Mike86

Yeah. As far as comics of course he’s been around. That’s not mainstream exposure though for the casual person going to this film. Also at least Cavill is acknowledging that the films thus far haven’t been the best. Hopefully they are on track going forward.

Michael Corvin

Correct. That's what I meant. There were never any Cyborg toys, Underoos, appearances in video games, etc. That seems like a recent push to make his as iconic as the big 5.

Giantrobo

You know what? So fuckin' what if you guys don't like Cyborg or haven't heard of him. Many have and to them he is as much a JL'er as anyone else. It's a fuckin' team.... There is room for many players. If it were up to some of you guys it'd just be all white guys with a woman as eye candy and nothing else.

Kudos to DC for trying to say, years ago...not just in this film..hey, we know this team has lots a Non-white dude fans and here is someone that can represent you. I hope they add a Latino, An Asian, An Arab, A Muslim, A Gay, A Lesbian, A Trans, etc. Fuck all this "FORCED" and "TOKEN" talk. You fanboy haters will always scream "forced" and "token" when you don't like change.

cultshock

Both not true, Cyborg appeared on the Super Powers Team:Galactic Guardians cartoon in 1985-86 (the last version of Hanna Barbara's Super Friends series) and Kenner made an action figure of him as a part of their Super Powers line in 1986.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Su...ctic_Guardians

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Powers_Collection

It's true that he wasn't known to the general public, but in the mid-80's, The New Teen Titans was DC's most popular title (their X-men if you will) and Cyborg was one of the most popular members in the team, so DC did try to push him somewhat outside of comics.

Kal-El

I just went back a couple of pages just to be sure, but no one has associated the word “forced” or “token” to cyborg being a black person. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. So far the last few exchanges have been very civil with nary a mention of haters. Save for one: yours.

Giantrobo

Kal...If you don't know what I'm talking about then step out. Skip my post(s). The last few pages of Cyborg talk have been about people knowing him and no one said otherwise. I took the issue further, AFTER a quick mention of the long drawn out convo about whether or not people know him; and in an intentionally un-civil way, to cover convos about the character not only here but in other forums about the reason Cyborg is in the JL

Josh-da-man

I suspect that many of Generation X are familiar with Cyborg (and the other New Teen Titans) through this comic book that was handed out to school kids:

Kal-El

I prefer to stay, thank you very much. You seem to have a tendency to respond in a negative way whenever you get called out. (See RoboDad’s posts)
My point stands. Nobody has said “token” or “forced” in association with Cyborg being black and no one has certainly called anybody else a “hater” except for you.
And I find it funny that you would recommend “skipping posts” when weren’t you the one that said at one time you don’t mind other people’s posts since they’re as free to post them as you are?
So,

Giantrobo

Again, the comment was not just about the last few posts. But keep pushing that story..

I didn't jump on anyone specifically. YOU, like RoboDad, came and commented on MY post... so Yeah, I came back.. Call it negative if you want. Makes no difference to me. I guess you THOUGHT you were calling me out. Ok, if you say so. Believe what you want.

And yes...if you don't like when I say something about a post, SKIP IT. And if you choose to come back at me I will come back at you. I go through the same thing here, I skip posts, then I find I posts I want to address, I get someone's response and sometimes it's pos or negative. So what, I'm not crying about it when it happens.

Also...

brayzie

I was never interested in Cyborg as a character and I don't like his design in the movie.
But it him being featured in the movie isn't merely for racial diversity.
Geoff Johns has a lot of pull at DC as creative director/exec whatever. The reason why we got a Hal Jordan Green Lantern film and not Rayner or Stewart was because he made the Hal Jordan version a top selling comic again.
Cyborg is already known to a bunch of kids through all the various Titans cartoons. And Geoff Johns made JL a top selling comic again, with Cyborg as one of the members. So those are some additional reasons why he's in it, which are equally important, if not more important than the diversity aspect.

Who else were they going to put? Martian Manhunter? Way less people in the general public know about him and I doubt kids would be as enthused about him over Cyborg.
Hawkman? Not a top selling comic for a while, and not in any recent long running cartoons.

Hokeyboy

I most assuredly had one of these from 1984. I had the whole Super Powers collection, actually. Then it was stolen in 2002. I'm still heartbroken.



And lookee here! Saturday morning cartoons from 1985:



And the Teen Titans cartoon premiered 14 years ago. A 9 year old watching it back then has since graduated from college. An entire generation grew up with the character.

Mike86

Those Super Powers figures were great. I didn’t have many of them but I remember seeing them. I never said Cyborg had zero exposure just I don’t think he’s as well known in comparison to the big three. Same goes for The Flash and Aquaman.

Hokeyboy

My collection was stolen from the trunk of my car, after I brought it in to a local dealer to get appraised for insurance purposes. It was in magnificent condition. Many were from my original collection, some bought on eBay, but well taken care of. Ugh. I'm still pissed off.

And I'm almost entirely sure the dealer was in on it.

Mike86

The only ones I for sure remember having are Robin and Penguin. I probably still have both somewhere (both are loose though and I’m sure missing accessories). I might have had more but those are the ones I remember most.

robin2099

Would this be a good time to mention that is either one of the rarest Super Powers figures in existence?

I was too young to get any of those toys but I've always been jealous and envious of anyone who got to grow up with them. All I had was the crappy Toy Biz knock offs.

devilshalo

I would have preferred Martian Manhunter or John Stewart Lantern. But mainly because my bias is for Victor Stone from Wolfman/Perez Teen Titans, whose base membership is more diverse than JL.

Hokeyboy

It'd be a GREAT time to mention it. I never had Cyborg back in the day (1984-5). But I acquired him over a decade later. It was worth every penny I paid at the time to me.