Last edit by: Jay G.
Zack Snyder's Director's Cut discussion:
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk...exclusive.html
https://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk...exclusive.html
Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
#330
Banned
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Donner made some good Silver Age Superman movies, but I don't know if he could do a more modern Superman or JLA.
Keaton might work in a Dark Knight Returns or Batman Beyond adaption, but anything else no way.
Originally Posted by The Valeyard
If you're talking about Bob Kane, then he doesn't know a thing about Batman!
#331
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Just write Bale a blank check. The movie is going to need a big star to rally around like Downey in Avengers. Superman and Batman are the leads, and I dont think Cavill can do it on his own, so the choice of Batman better be a good one.
#332
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
I love Affleck as a director, but I'm not surprised he passed. I think he'll stick to dramas mostly and avoid any major blockbuster films.
Assuming Man of Steel turns out well, why not Zack Snyder? I think he's got the visual eye to put together a pretty kick ass film.
I think Duncan Jones would be an interesting choice, but he appears to be involved in an Ian Fleming biopic.
Assuming Man of Steel turns out well, why not Zack Snyder? I think he's got the visual eye to put together a pretty kick ass film.
I think Duncan Jones would be an interesting choice, but he appears to be involved in an Ian Fleming biopic.
#334
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell
Posts: 34,101
Received 729 Likes
on
532 Posts
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
I'm surprised WB doesn't give Guy Ritchie a look since his Sherlock Holmes films have brought in some nice boxoffice for them and I liked the look and feel of both. Plus he's capable of handling ensemble casts.
#335
DVD Talk God
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
bay is a ridiculous choice but at least we'd get some awesome action scenes with explosions and whatnot.
#336
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
Posts: 39,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
This is all besides that I think Bale is very loyal to Nolan. Guess they hit it off really well. 4 films together, granted...3 Batman films. I'd love to see something from Nolan that is as thematically interesting as The Prestige. Fucking love that film. So morally and ethically twisted those characters were in a way. Fascinated me so much.
Last edited by Solid Snake; 08-09-12 at 01:41 PM.
#337
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
The more I think of it Affleck's reasoning probably makes some sense. He seems to want to do films that have a good story behind them now and doesn't just want something that's thrown together, which let's be honest is what this Justice League film is feeling like. Warner is simply looking to ride on Marvel's coattails and hoping for a smash hit like The Avengers was.
Ugh..no. Don't get me wrong Donner did a good Superman film but it was 34 years ago. DC needs to look to fresh directors and not rely on nostalgia to try and fuel their new movies.
Yeah, I loved Bale as Bruce Wayne and Batman both. Easily my favorite actor who's played him to date, but I can't see him coming back without Nolan's involvement and I don't know that I'd want him to either. They really gelled well together and created some great films. Plus as Snake mentioned the way The Dark Knight Rises ends bringing him back would kind of put a damper on it in my opinion.
The whole problem is I have absolutely no idea who a good candidate for a new Bruce Wayne/Batman is at the moment. I will say Nolan's films are going to be tough to recast in my opinion. Every actor basically owned their roles. The one person who's been floating around my mind for a part though is Bryan Cranston. Either as Dr. Hugo Strange or possibly Commissioner Gordon.
Ugh..no. Don't get me wrong Donner did a good Superman film but it was 34 years ago. DC needs to look to fresh directors and not rely on nostalgia to try and fuel their new movies.
...this can be debated. *cough*
Problem w/ that is that Wayne isn't as likeable or as enjoyable as Stark. Stark has all this personality and flare that you just follow that so easily as a viewer. Wayne/Batman is a character you observe never really getting that close to their core, if you know what I mean. Beyond that...I think as a storied character in these films...it'd be kind of mean to get Bale's Wayne back. Cuz you know...he finally has his peace. Also...it'd kind of kill Alfred's wish of Wayne.
This is all besides that I think Bale is very loyal to Nolan. Guess they hit it off really well. 4 films together, granted...3 Batman films. I'd love to see something from Nolan that is as thematically interesting as The Prestige. Fucking love that film. So morally and ethically twisted those characters were in a way. Fascinated me so much.
Problem w/ that is that Wayne isn't as likeable or as enjoyable as Stark. Stark has all this personality and flare that you just follow that so easily as a viewer. Wayne/Batman is a character you observe never really getting that close to their core, if you know what I mean. Beyond that...I think as a storied character in these films...it'd be kind of mean to get Bale's Wayne back. Cuz you know...he finally has his peace. Also...it'd kind of kill Alfred's wish of Wayne.
This is all besides that I think Bale is very loyal to Nolan. Guess they hit it off really well. 4 films together, granted...3 Batman films. I'd love to see something from Nolan that is as thematically interesting as The Prestige. Fucking love that film. So morally and ethically twisted those characters were in a way. Fascinated me so much.
The whole problem is I have absolutely no idea who a good candidate for a new Bruce Wayne/Batman is at the moment. I will say Nolan's films are going to be tough to recast in my opinion. Every actor basically owned their roles. The one person who's been floating around my mind for a part though is Bryan Cranston. Either as Dr. Hugo Strange or possibly Commissioner Gordon.
Last edited by Mike86; 08-09-12 at 01:58 PM.
#339
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
#341
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Another good choice. Sherlock 2 had some really nifty camerawork.
#342
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
At this point, all I really want from DC/WB is a really top-notch animated JLA feature. Something along the lines of the "New Frontiers" DTV feature from a few years ago, only with theatrical-quality 2-D animation.
#343
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
I don't think Affleck has passed at least fully. If had passed, why would he waste his and WB's time and having meetings over JL?
#344
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Bleedingcool:
eadline‘s report on Ben Affleck‘s involvement with Warner Bros. Justice League film is less a piece of reportage than a bit of flag waving.
The gist is this: they say that they didn’t scoop Variety on the big Justice League story “days ago” because Ben Affleck’s people have already told them we won’t take the gig.
“Several sources” have apparently said to Deadline that Affleck might take a meeting with the studio about the film, but he certainly won’t direct it.
Which is to say, Deadline are saying that Affleck’s people are saying that he’s about to waste both his and the studio’s time on a meeting about a film he certainly isn’t going to direct.
Assuming that this can be believe, I can only read it as playing hard to get by Affleck and team, if filtered through a bit of Variety-trashing by Nikki Finke and Deadline.
Which probably goes some way to convincing me Affleck might actually be wanting the gig.
The gist is this: they say that they didn’t scoop Variety on the big Justice League story “days ago” because Ben Affleck’s people have already told them we won’t take the gig.
“Several sources” have apparently said to Deadline that Affleck might take a meeting with the studio about the film, but he certainly won’t direct it.
Which is to say, Deadline are saying that Affleck’s people are saying that he’s about to waste both his and the studio’s time on a meeting about a film he certainly isn’t going to direct.
Assuming that this can be believe, I can only read it as playing hard to get by Affleck and team, if filtered through a bit of Variety-trashing by Nikki Finke and Deadline.
Which probably goes some way to convincing me Affleck might actually be wanting the gig.
#345
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Here's why the film won't work: there's no backstory. The Avengers worked because it had five prior films to explain the team's actions and motivations allowing Whedon to go full tilt with the story of them coming together and defeating evil. Marvel's plan was risky, but it paid off.
Film audiences won't know (or care) about Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, and whatever other superheroes that they decide to throw in there.
While Ben Affleck is a great and inspired choice, I'd rather see him focus on something that actually has the potential to be great.
Film audiences won't know (or care) about Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Shazam, and whatever other superheroes that they decide to throw in there.
While Ben Affleck is a great and inspired choice, I'd rather see him focus on something that actually has the potential to be great.
#346
DVD Talk God
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
maybe, just maybe that's the reason why it will be successful. people don't care about the backstories. they just want to see a good movie.
#347
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
The Avengers audience was already involved with the characters for 4 years leading up to the movie. We knew who these people were (mostly) and were invested in their development, i.e. wanting to see Steve Rogers interact with the modern world, Thor's duty to protect Earth, Tony Stark become more responsible and altruistic, Black Widow whip out some titty, Hulk become more self-controlling, Hawkeye develop a personality, etc. Without all that sense of character arc, Avengers could have been just another Michael Bay-styled shitfest.
#348
DVD Talk Legend
#349
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell
Posts: 34,101
Received 729 Likes
on
532 Posts
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
The Avengers audience was already involved with the characters for 4 years leading up to the movie. We knew who these people were (mostly) and were invested in their development, i.e. wanting to see Steve Rogers interact with the modern world, Thor's duty to protect Earth, Tony Stark become more responsible and altruistic, Black Widow whip out some titty, Hulk become more self-controlling, Hawkeye develop a personality, etc. Without all that sense of character arc, Avengers could have been just another Michael Bay-styled shitfest.
You have the mythos of Superman and Batman (who would most likely be in costume for most, if not all the film) to carry the other heroes through their introduction. They (WB) don't have the time to wait to build up their other heroes as the Marvel film making machine keeps steamrolling.
The biggest problem is finding a reason for all of them to get together in the first place other then using Darkseid, which people will compare to
Spoiler:
#350
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Somewhere between Heaven and Hell
Posts: 34,101
Received 729 Likes
on
532 Posts
Re: Justice League Movie- Release date ?
Thinking about it... the one big thing that DC/WB has in its back pocket to explain away the diffferent media variations of Superman, Batman, Catwoman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Legion of Super Heroes.
Crisis.
Crisis.