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Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
#2551
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I don't know where the mouth breathers got the notion that it's Green Lantern in the bat cave with Alfred. Hell, if you look closely at the bottom right of the screen you can actually make out a bit of the red cape.
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
Hearing the voice over (by Wayne?) stating how Superman "was a beacon to the world. He didn't just save people, he made them see the best parts of themselves" made me want to throw up in my mouth.
SO Unearned given the only films prior had a commitment to making Superman surly, uncommunicative, mopey, and sometime belligerent all in the service of making him seem more cool than the previous incarnations.
The films also drummed into our skulls repeatedly how Superman didn't owe these people anything and that he should be willing to let any human life die to preserve his own security.
This film doesn't get to play that card with me. I don't buy it. The story is already damaged goods.
And it would be especially galling if that really is Wayne mouthing those empty platitudes after spending most of the previous film identifying him as a legitimate threat.
SO Unearned given the only films prior had a commitment to making Superman surly, uncommunicative, mopey, and sometime belligerent all in the service of making him seem more cool than the previous incarnations.
The films also drummed into our skulls repeatedly how Superman didn't owe these people anything and that he should be willing to let any human life die to preserve his own security.
This film doesn't get to play that card with me. I don't buy it. The story is already damaged goods.
And it would be especially galling if that really is Wayne mouthing those empty platitudes after spending most of the previous film identifying him as a legitimate threat.
But in the end..like ALL HEROES...he chose to do what he could to save humanity and even gave his life.
HE FUCKIN' EARNED and OWNED THAT SHIT.
#2553
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
Fuckin Aye... Did you even pay attention to the MoS/BvS Films? Yes, those that loved him wanted him to DECIDE FOR HIMSELF how he wanted to use his powers. They loved him and would support him no matter what he chose.
But in the end..like ALL HEROES...he chose to do what he could to save humanity and even gave his life.
HE FUCKIN' EARNED and OWNED THAT SHIT.
But in the end..like ALL HEROES...he chose to do what he could to save humanity and even gave his life.
HE FUCKIN' EARNED and OWNED THAT SHIT.
In the narrative of MoS, he's really at fault for sending the signal. The kryptonians come because of that and because of him. Of course he had no way of knowing, I'm not blaming him for that. But even the decision to reveal himself was taken out of his hands, because if he did nothing they were going to raze the Earth anyway, he couldn't run from that. And then there's not even a moral dilemma with whether to help the Kryptonians save their society because they're so hell bent on eradicating all life on Earth that there's really no choice there, the story doesn't even pretend to give him one.
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I just hope this movie doesn't destroy what WW earned. If she gets caught up in a clusterf*ck of a film I'm out DC.
#2555
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I may be looking for something that isn't there, but when Bruce is looking at a hologram of someone with a red cape when Steppenwolf says "no kryptonian", it almost looks like a thinner leg than Superman would have. Supergirl? The color of the leggings looks a bit different than Superman's prior films. Then again, it is at an angle which could be throwing off the thickness of the leg. Just a thought.
EDIT Looking back at the some comments I missed in this thread, I guess I wasn't the only one wondering.
EDIT Looking back at the some comments I missed in this thread, I guess I wasn't the only one wondering.
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#2556
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
While I do find it odd, maybe in the time between BvS and Justice League he discovers what Superman meant to others (remember, he's referring to how others saw him, not how he saw him). And sheesh, people need to get over the Martha thing. To me it was no worse than Captain America giving his best buddy a pass for murdering Stark's parents (and countless others) because...umm...friendship??
#2557
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ju...ts-1202502433/
Reshoots are costing about $25M
Cavill grew a mustache for MI:6 and Paramount won't let him shave. WB has to remove it in post. He's doing the reshoots and MI:6 simultaneously.
Whedon is not expected to get a co-directing credit. He might get a Producer or Writer credit.
Reshoots are costing about $25M
Cavill grew a mustache for MI:6 and Paramount won't let him shave. WB has to remove it in post. He's doing the reshoots and MI:6 simultaneously.
Whedon is not expected to get a co-directing credit. He might get a Producer or Writer credit.
#2558
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I kinda wish they'd leave the moustache in, then we quickly see Superman have it randomly off and on. Just adds another level of amusement to this circus.
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#2560
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
Removing a mustache in post? That's gotta be a first.
#2561
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
Well, Paramount wouldn't allow him to remove it, Warner needs him for reshoots and Superman sure as hell would look odd with a stache so... Speaking of which, has Superman ever had a mustache in the comics?
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
? Pa Kent reprimanded him for saving that bus, and when asked if he should have let them die the answer was "maybe." He basically told Clark not to save him because he didn't believe the world would receive him well if they knew about his powers. How is that wanting him to decide for himself? If he decided for himself I'm fairly sure he would have saved his dad.
But did he save the kids? Yes he did. He is a born hero. He didn't need anyone to tell him to do that right thing there. Pa Kent's misguided advice on the bus, and ultimately, the instance which led to Clark's poor choice in not saving Pa, was because he was overly protective of Clark. It makes sense from a Parental point of view..yes, even in a comic film. It's no different that a parent not wanting their child to go into a dangerous career.
In the narrative of MoS, he's really at fault for sending the signal. The kryptonians come because of that and because of him. Of course he had no way of knowing, I'm not blaming him for that. But even the decision to reveal himself was taken out of his hands, because if he did nothing they were going to raze the Earth anyway, he couldn't run from that. And then there's not even a moral dilemma with whether to help the Kryptonians save their society because they're so hell bent on eradicating all life on Earth that there's really no choice there, the story doesn't even pretend to give him one.
But he didn't...HE IS A HERO who does HERO SHIT.
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But did he save the kinds? Yes he did. He is a born hero. He didn't need anyone to tell him to do that right thing there. Pa Kent's misguided advice on the bus, and ultimately, the instance which led to Clark's poor choice in not saving Pa, was because he was overly protective of Clark. It makes sense from Parental point of view..yes, even in a comic film. It's no different that a parent not wanting their child to go into a dangerous career.
He could have sat the whole thing out. He could have taken Pa Kent's misguided advice and done nothing. He could have disappeared like WW...
But he didn't...HE IS A HERO who does HERO SHIT.
He could have sat the whole thing out. He could have taken Pa Kent's misguided advice and done nothing. He could have disappeared like WW...
But he didn't...HE IS A HERO who does HERO SHIT.
We can't have an entire movie of him flying around thwarting jewel thieves and saving kittens.
#2569
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
wouldn't be easier to add a mustache on all the other scenes than removing one ?
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I think he means WB adding a mustache on all the other Superman scenes already shot. Hell, it doesn't sound like he's in half the movie anyways since he's "dead." Why not just let the man have a stache.
They can even call the next movie Stache of Steel or Man of Stache.
They can even call the next movie Stache of Steel or Man of Stache.
#2572
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re: Justice League (2017, D: Snyder and Whedon) S: Gal Gadot, et al
I think he means WB adding a mustache on all the other Superman scenes already shot. Hell, it doesn't sound like he's in half the movie anyways since he's "dead." Why not just let the man have a stache.
They can even call the next movie Stache of Steel or Man of Stache.
They can even call the next movie Stache of Steel or Man of Stache.
And we don't know how much in the movie he's in. They're keeping him out of the trailers but I'd bet he's probably in the entire third act.
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