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How about Paul Kersey in the Death Wish movies. At some point you think he'd just stop getting married and having kids.

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Not really, because you know, The Matrix Reloaded had Neo just getting stronger and that was pretty shitty.

And Raimi's Spider-man 2 was the best of that franchise.

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Yeah, the fourth movie brought the character back (with a different actor in the role).

And not putting Duke in a coma was a missed opportunity. But it still wouldn't change the fact that the movie loses a lot when the Rock was split from Tatum. Of the Joes, those two had the only genuine onscreen chemistry. Lady Jaye and Flint could have been anyone.

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Everyone got stronger in The Matrix Reloaded. The agents got "upgraded" so Neo could no longer do his one hand fighting from the end of the first movie. And Morpheus became super powered since he actually held his own against one of those "upgraded" agents despite getting his ass handed to him by Smith in the first movie.

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Yeah, I never thought I'd say this about a movie but it needed more Channing Tatum.

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True. And it resulted in terribly overlong fight sequences that went nowhere.

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Who needs a decent script when 99% of sequels are done to make money.

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Die Hard 2 ended with John and Holly still together, in love with John being the hero...Twice!
Die hard 3 opens with McClane being a alcoholic, washed up, virtually useless cop having divorced Holly.

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Here is a related thread

movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie : http://forum.dvdtalk.com/movie-talk/...ous-movie.html

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I always thought turning Ms. Kensington into a Fembot at the beginning of Austin Powers 2 was a little weak, but then again it was Austin Powers. No big whoop.

The aforementioned Alien3 was probably the worst offender in this category.

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I want to know what happened to Willie and Short Round after Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

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I don't know about Willie Scott, but I would think that Indiana Jones sent Short Round to live in some boarding school with the words:

"My life isn't suitable for kids, Shorty. You'll have to stay here from now on."


This would explain why Shorty didn't attend Indy's wedding.

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Seriously, how hard would have been to put Shorty in that scene? I don't know what Jonathan Ke Quan has been up to lately, but I'm sure he'd have been up to a day shoot.

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Yeah, and couldn't Sallah have flown in from Cairo for the wedding as well?
That wedding scene just never did it for me either.

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Although the presence of Mola Ram was quite noticeable. I felt like my heart was being ripped out the entire film!

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You mean you don't know that Shorty was a girl and changed her name to Marion once she was adopted by Abner Ravenwood?

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Short Round went back to China and was killed in the Second Sino-Japanese War. True Story.

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To be fair, in Die Hard 3 I think they're just separated, not divorced. So it was pretty much the same situation they were in at the beginning of Die Hard. It wasn't until Die Hard 4 that they were divorced.

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It's exactly why Arthur 2 On The Rocks failed :(

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Ha! I was actually going to mention this movie in that it makes no sense why Arthur is still drinking. In the first one you get the sense he was drinking to dull the pain of his life - except he found true love and happiness at the end. In the sequel it's as if the writers didn't understand this and had Arthur still drinking just because he was such a funny drunk.

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I dislike everyone associated with this movie, mostly Mike Meyers. I think I could forgive the stupid setup, but I can never forgive expecting Bond satire and getting someone drinking shit.

Mike Meyers owes me a giant apology.

IIRC in the commentary they mention what a good sport Elizabeth Hurley was for coming back and doing that scene so they could reboot Austin as a single swinger again and have a new Austin girl like Bond had a new Bond girl. Bit yeah, talk about throwing all of his growth from the first film out the window.

And I agree with you, UAIOE, Austin Powers II was a huge disappointment. 3-5 gigantic laugh moments and that's it. No consistent laughs or genre satire like in the first one.

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Well, had they used Darabont's script you would have gotten Sallah AND Henry Jones (assuming they could have gotten Connery).

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How about Spider Man 3, with Peter Parker losing the maturity and personality growth that he accrued over the previous two movies?