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Old 03-01-18, 05:26 PM
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There's a couple of stages here that are for a Marvel film(?) with the code name Open World. Been trying to figure what it is. I think it's Captain Marvel.
The working title was supposed to be Warbird IIRC, but maybe that changed.
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Looks like that is Captain Marvel.

https://screenrant.com/captain-marve...working-title/

A posting from Production Weekly for this week lists Captain Marvel with its working title: Open World.
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That would explain the set they're building... looks like ship interiors.

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Nice to have three films now confirmed for 2020-22. My guess for 2020 is Guardians3, Black Widow & company, Dr Strange 2. Here's hoping they do another massive schedule announcement like they did 4 or so yrs ago...that'd be awesome.
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: After Black Panther’s runaway success, you have to be feeling good about having so much Wakanda in Infinity War.
KEVIN FEIGE: That’s the grand Marvel Studios/MCU tradition of just being all in, right? All in on stuff we believe in, before the audience tells us what they think. You’ve heard us talk ad nauseam about the fact that we were in production on Avengers before either Thor or Captain America was released. Same thing with the whole third act of Infinity War being in Wakanda.

What role does Wakanda play going forward? It seems like kind of a new anchor point for the MCU. Can we expect a lot of the action and future stories to be connected there?
Anchor point is a good way of [describing] it, particularly as some of our other anchor points, Asgard for instance, are gone.

Thor: Ragnarok really demolished that stage. I like that you play rough with your toys. A broken and battered toy is one that’s been well loved and well used.
That’s a good way of putting it.

What can you tell us about plans for a Black Panther sequel?
Nothing specific to reveal, other than to say we absolutely will do that. One of the favorite pastimes at Marvel Studios is sitting around on a Part One and talking and dreaming about what we would do in a Part Two. There have been plenty of those conversations as we were putting together the first Black Panther. We have ideas and a pretty solid direction on where we want to head with the second one.

With Infinity War, you’ve talked about this being an endpoint or a climax. You’ve built up this world over 10 years, what are you looking to do to it with this film and next year’s follow-up?
Playing rough with toys, as you said. [Laughs] With Infinity War, it’s coming to a climax, coming to a conclusion of seeds with all the MacGuffins in various movies, and with Untitled Avengers a year later, bringing what will be that first 22 movie arc to a finality. That doesn’t mean there are no movies after that. Of course not. It means the movies after that will be changed. Again, it goes to the comics. Every great event in the 50 plus years of publishing history would have an impact on the individual books going forward after that.

Disney struck a deal to acquire Fox, which brings X-Men and Fantastic Four film rights back home to Marvel Studios. Have you had time to consider what you want to do with these now that they’re back in your toy box?
No. It’s all about getting Infinity War finished and out, starting Captain Marvel, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Untitled Avengers, the next Spider-Man, and Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 3. These are the ones that are keeping us busy. When and how that deal with Fox finishes and comes together and we’re told, “Hey, now you can start working on it. Now you can start thinking about it,” is when we’ll actually start thinking about it. I will say just the notion of having what, frankly, most other companies with [intellectual property] have all along, which is access to all of their characters, that would be fun.

Can you describe how Infinity War might reshape the tone of films to come?

You start to think differently about how the characters are interacting, what character’s stories are coming to a close, and what character’s stories are only just beginning. Those stories will continue. I think they’ll continue in surprisingly different and unexpected ways after these two Avengers films.

When we talk about resolution or a character’s story ending, are we necessarily talking about death?
People always will jump to that. That’s not necessarily what we’re talking about. I talk a lot, because I’m a big-ass nerd, about Star Trek: The Next Generation, “All Good Things.” That to me is one of the best series finales ever. That wasn’t about death. Picard went and played poker with the crew, something he should have done a long time ago, right?

One criticism you’ve gotten is when somebody dies in a Marvel movie, they tend to come back in some way. If it happens, will it be for real this time?
Yes. I mean, I could always list off the characters that we’ve killed in our movies that haven’t come back, but the big ones, which I know they’re looking at …? [Pause.] I would just say, yes. People need to be careful what they wish for.

You mentioned before that Marvel Studios was all-in at important junctures. What’s the dark version of the Marvel Universe where you had to activate a backup plan for Avengers if Cap or Thor hadn’t connected?

Well, not on Avengers necessarily. As we develop stories and develop scripts, you have to deal with the realities of deal making, and the realities of schedules, and the realities of budgets. We always have A, and B, and C plans. That doesn’t mean the B or C plan wouldn’t have worked. It just meant it would have been different.

Had those movies failed, would Avengers have become basically Iron Man 3?
The real answer is we were all-in. God forbid those films had [flopped] … I think the marketing probably would have been different [for Avengers] and maybe the way the film was cut together or recut with additional scenes would have been different, but it was all-in on that one.

What feels like the big gamble now?
Every time you do a film that doesn’t have a part two behind it or wasn’t a sequel. After Iron Man, and certainly after Captain America and Thor, and certainly after The Avengers, Marvel Studios could have made, theoretically, a nice game plan only making sequels to those movies. A lot of studios would love to have four franchises that they can keep doing sequels to. We specifically didn’t want to do that, because we wanted to keep bringing new characters to the forefront, because there’s an embarrassment of riches in the comic books.

Which of those new films felt like risks, felt uncertain?
You look at Guardians of the Galaxy, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man … You look at Black Panther or Captain Marvel, that we have just started filming. One could consider those risks, whenever you’re doing something new and it’s not proven. Doing a third version of Spider-Man. Those are all things that have a certain amount of risk associated with them, but early on we decided we didn’t want to be just the Iron Man studio or just the Avengers studio. We want to be the Marvel Studio.

Years back, you listed all of those new movies as possible projects you wanted to make. Now most of them have happened. So, what’s on your wish list now?
Well, there are lots. There are lots. It’s a testament to the 8,000-plus characters in Marvel Comics. We still haven’t made or developed every character we saw when we flipped through a comic and went, “This would be cool. This would be a good story.”

Such as …?
We’re not ready to talk about what those are, but like the ones we’ve made in the first three phases, they’re ones that are either just great concepts for a film, great characters with great supporting characters, like Panther. New locations and lands that have cultural significance all their own, and continuing to tell stories that represent the world as it is, that represent people who perhaps haven’t seen themselves portrayed in this light in the past. We want to continue to do that.

You have Brie Larson as Captain Marvel, the first female title character in a Marvel Studios film, with Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck co-directing. Obviously, Ryan Coogler directing Black Panther was a landmark for representation. Will you get more women and people of color behind the camera as well as in front of the camera?
Yes. I think we’re seeing it shift from a very purposeful initiative to just a fact of life, to just a way of doing business. Then there are people we hired that we’re not ready to announce in all different capacities, particularly behind the camera. As Panther has so loudly declared, [representation] can only help you, can only help you tell unique stories, can only help you do things in a new, and unique, and fresh, and exciting way. If you do that, audiences will notice it, and appreciate it, and support it.

I wanted to ask you a little more about Captain Marvel. It’s set in the 1990s. How does shifting that timeline back open up new storytelling for the MCU?
We wanted to explore a period before Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury had any idea about any of the other heroes and crazy stuff going on in the world. You know, we first met Nick when he told Tony, “You’re part of a big universe. You just don’t know yet.” Well, we want to go back to a time when he didn’t know it yet, and really showcase and announce that Carol Danvers was that first hero that Nick came across. That meant she could be the singular hero, but place it within timing of the MCU. It also got us talking about different genres, exploring this notion of sort of the ‘90s action film. We hadn’t necessarily done anything like that before either, so there are definitely homages to our favorite ‘90s action films within Captain Marvel.

What defines a ‘90s action film? Like, what would be a few of the inspirations?
Well, not necessarily talking about any particulars of the story, but the action elements Terminator 2. That’s about as iconic as you get, looking at kind of those cool street level fights, street level car chases, and fun stuff like that. That being said, much of the movie takes place in outer space, as you might think a Captain Marvel movie would. Like all of our genre inspirations, there are bits and pieces here and there.

You opened Black Panther with a prologue set in 1992. I wondered if we might expect more hero stories to be set in that time period going forward?
I would say no. I mean, in terms of Captain Marvel and a young T’Chaka in ’92, no. That’s not where we’re headed. But we would talk about the ancestral plane sequence [in Black Panther] where, towards the end of the movie, T’Challa takes the herb again and encounters his father, where he’s like, “Hey, man. We’ve kind of screwed up, and I want to change it.” There’s that moment where all of the ancestors come behind T’Chaka. We would joke and go, “I want to see … what’s their story? What’s that story? Who was Bashenga, the first king of Wakanda? Who’s that third to the left, behind T’Chaka? What was their story in Wakanda in 1938? That would be cool.” It all starts as conversations like that. The more audiences want to see these stories, the more opportunities we have to explore different places and time.

Usually, we get three stand-alone movies for a single hero, then some team-ups. But is there potential in Black Panther beyond that? I see people saying, “I want a Dora Milaje movie. I would like a Shuri movie.” Do you see more potential there, or do you think you’ll stick with that kind of three-act structure that you’ve followed in the past?
I think there’s lots of potential. It’s a balance between leaving people wanting more and then giving them too much, but I would watch a movie about any of those characters you just named. I think Shuri’s astounding, and you’ll see much more of her in our universe. Okoye, I think I’d watch three action films just Okoye. I’m not saying we’re doing that, but I’m saying that we’re intrigued by them. Frankly, as I’ve said before, finishing these first 22 movies is really all we’re thinking about at this point.

We already talked about X-Men and Fantastic Four coming back to Marvel. Is there any character that’s still outside your purview, or have they all come home?
There are some with a couple of other players involved that would have to be negotiated with. Then, of course, Spider-Man is still with Sony, independent of our agreement to do the films together. But most of them are home now. If that Fox thing happens, yeah, that’ll be the majority.
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Captain Marvel being 90's inspired seems cool!
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One criticism you’ve gotten is when somebody dies in a Marvel movie, they tend to come back in some way. If it happens, will it be for real this time?
Yes. I mean, I could always list off the characters that we’ve killed in our movies that haven’t come back, but the big ones, which I know they’re looking at …? [Pause.] I would just say, yes. People need to be careful what they wish for.
sooo, Cap? or maybe Ironman?? It'll probably just be Hawkeye ....
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I have a question that I may have missed or nobody has been asking ... is Nick Fury ever coming back?
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I have a question that I may have missed or nobody has been asking ... is Nick Fury ever coming back?
Captain Marvel
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The more I think of these movies the more I think that a) we will get somewhat of an Infinity Quest storyline as its been alluded to as a Heist flick, and that would be cool. And b) that they might not kill off characters but some may end up in the Soul World in the Soul Gem.
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Marvel Studios has been incredibly open about the upcoming two ‘Avengers’ films marking the end of an era. While they’re definitely not closing up shop and stopping production of Marvel Cinematic Universe films after the untitled ‘Avengers 4’ hits theaters in 2019, they have been clear that the landscape of the MCU will be different than what fans have seen so far. One of those big changes has been the assumed departure of actor Chris Evans, aka Captain America.

In a new interview with the New York Times, Evans pretty much guarantees that’s the case. “You want to get off the train before they push you off,” he said. The report makes it brutally clear that he is speaking about the MCU, and his role in it, in particular. The article says Evans “expects that planned reshoots in the fall will mark the end of his tenure in the familiar red, white and blue super suit.”

Can’t get much more definitive than that.

As mentioned above, this is something that fans have been expecting, but secretly hoping wasn’t true. Captain America has risen from a silly WWII-era character with a stupid costume to become the heart and soul of the MCU. This is, without a doubt, because of Evans’ performance as Steve Rogers. While Tony Stark gets all the funny lines, and the flashy suit of armor, Captain America, as played by Evans, is the perfect mix of “aw shucks” and badassness. He’s always been the real hero of the Marvel Universe.

Now, the real question is who takes over for Evans as the heart of the MCU? If Marvel Studios follows the comics, both Falcon, played by Anthony Mackie, and The Winter Soldier, played by Sebastian Stan, have picked up the shield and become Captain America. But perhaps that’s not Marvel’s plan at all.

With the emergence of “Black Panther” as a phenomenon, maybe the King from Wakanda will take the reins of the superhero universe. And with Brie Larson in “Captain Marvel” coming in 2019, maybe we don’t need a Captain America anymore. Maybe a Captain Marvel will do just fine.

For Evans, now the only issue is how everyone he meets will think of him as Captain America. For better or worse, this is the role that will no doubt shape his career. But apparently, he’s not worried about being mobbed on the streets for the rest of his life.

“People don’t recognize me at all,” he said. “I can look them right in the eye — it’s like I’m invisible.”
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Every rumor I've read has said Cap and Tony are gone after these Avengers films, so the only question is how.

The real question is who else are they gonna kill? I'll bet Loki is an early casualty.
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I can't shake the feeling that Cap and Iron Man are going to survive, all of the talk of them dying and being fairly open about it in the press is looking like a red herring. If they were really going to be killed off in the series, I would expect them to be talking about how much they love the characters and can't wait to see where they go next.
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Just because they aren't involved doesn't mean they have to die.
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As I mentioned in the Avengers thread, getting rid of Chris Evans as Cap is going to be a big mistake. History will be repeating itself. Marvel learned the hard way that without Cap in the Avengers comic book it just didn't feel right, and sales dropped. They put him back. Of course, with actors you have a shorter window to correct that mistake due to time and aging.

Chris Evans could still be VERY effective as both Steve Rogers and Captain America for another decade. RDJ is much older, and his portrayal of Tony Stark has worn thin (most people seem to agree that he was the weak point in Spider-Man Homecoming, as well as Civil War).

There's no good reason to get rid of Chris Evans at this point, other than the shock value and to force them to focus on the newer characters. But as Marvel Comics learned in the late 60's, The Avengers just doesn't feel right without Cap there leading the team.
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I has nothing to do with them getting rid of him. It has to do with him not wanting to do it anymore.
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I has nothing to do with them getting rid of him. It has to do with him not wanting to do it anymore.
That's not true. He said about a year ago that if they asked him to stay he would.

This has to do with a story arc that they are hell bent on following. They're dropping RDJ, Chris Evans, and Chris Hemsworth after Avengers 4. They're moving on, which is foolish.

RDJ is too old to continue, so, fine, that makes sense, but Evans and Hemsworth have got another decade left in them. They can either recast Tony Stark or retire Iron Man until Evans and Hemsworth are too old to play their parts.

No, this is a direction they're choosing to take. The MCU will suffer for it, too. It won't suddenly become DC movies bad, but there will be a hole there - the absence of Evans will be felt just as much as the presence of the actors involved with the movies will.
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I agree with Deftones, I don't think Marvel is pushing him out and trying to get rid of him. Evans has also talked about his contract and wanting to do other things.
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I agree with Deftones, I don't think Marvel is pushing him out. Evans has also talked about his contract and wanting to do other things.
So has Daniel Craig, and he's doing another Bond movie even though he's 50 years old!

Evans is only 36. If Feige really wanted to he could find a way to work a deal where Evans would get to produce his own movie through a reactivated Touchstone or something like that if he signed on for a couple more movies as Cap (one more Cap movie and another Avengers movie). There are creative ways to make it happen - if Feige wanted it to happen. From what he's said, he's satisfied with closing out Chris Evans' time with Marvel after 2019. That's unfortunate, and a mistake.
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So has Daniel Craig, and he's doing another Bond movie even though he's 50 years old!

Evans is only 36. If Feige really wanted to he could find a way to work a deal where Evans would get to produce his own movie through a reactivated Touchstone or something like that if he signed on for a couple more movies as Cap (one more Cap movie and another Avengers movie). There are creative ways to make it happen - if Feige wanted it to happen. From what he's said, he's satisfied with closing out Chris Evans' time with Marvel after 2019. That's unfortunate, and a mistake.
Daniel Craig is irrelevant, since they're each their own person and they can choose to do whatever they want.

You can think it's Marvel and Feige if you want, I just don't believe it.
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Daniel Craig is irrelevant, since they're each their own person and they can choose to do whatever they want.

You can think it's Marvel and Feige if you want, I just don't believe it.
So you're completely discounting the comment that Evans made 12 or 18 months ago that if they offered him a new contract for appearances beyond A4 he'd sign it?
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
So you're completely discounting the comment that Evans made 12 or 18 months ago that if they offered him a new contract for appearances beyond A4 he'd sign it?
Maybe he changed his mind again in the last 12-18 months. They had to talk him into signing for Avengers 4, since that was over his 6 film deal. Maybe filming back to back was too much.

He has talked many times throughout the years that he is grateful for the role, but the process has been grueling for him. The constant workouts, the fast filming schedule, etc. I think he is much happier doing smaller films.
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He’s also talked about not acting in general and trying his hand at directing. Who knows maybe they’d let him try a Marvel film at some point. I think it’s silly to believe Disney is pushing him out or any of the others for that matter.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
So you're completely discounting the comment that Evans made 12 or 18 months ago that if they offered him a new contract for appearances beyond A4 he'd sign it?
Yeah, as others right above me have said... you're discounting all the other times he's talked about stepping away from the role? Or you know, the recent comments that led to all of this talk to begin with?

At the end of the day, none of us here know the actual story and can only speculate. Maybe you're right. Maybe not. Maybe he just takes a break and Marvel gives him a dump truck of money 5 years later and Steve Rogers returns in a big event.

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