Obi-Wanma

Actually, the Stark scene in Hulk is before the credits, where it seems really odd and out of place. Would have worked better as a mid or post credits sequence, IMO.

Solid Snake

Yeah, that Stark scene was placed in a awkward spot.

taffer

Craig Kyle & Christopher Yost to Write Third "Thor" Film

So it looks like phase three will be:

Ant-Man
Doctor Strange
Captain America 3
Thor 3
Avengers 3

Solid Snake

Nice.

The Valeyard

Marvel pushed it up at the last minute because audiences missed the post-credits sequence in the first Iron Man film (which was released over a month earlier). Most people walked out and never got the first Avengers breadcrumb.

If you look at the way the edit is now structured, it's awkward. If you look at it as it was supposed to be released (Banner opens his eyes and they're green - CUT TO Credits. Credits roll. Fade up on the bar and Stark reveal), it works.

devilshalo

I'm not sure why Stark is even talking to Gen Ross about the Avenger's Initiative. It would have made more sense if he was pissed that Stark weaponry was being used on US soil. The scene was unnecessary and doesn't really bridge Norton Banner and Ruffalo Banner other than the bring in a recognizable character from the MCU.

Ruffalo Banner has one line about the destruction of Harlem in the Avengers that tries to make that leap, but truly IMO, he's a different Hulk. Norton Banner was trying to control his rage and transformations at the end of the film. Ruffalo Banner tried to commit suicide by eating a bullet.

taffer

It doesn't have to be completely linear. The suicide attempt could have come before he tried to control it. He could have tried to kill himself, and when he couldn't, he realizes he has to learn to control it.

It makes sense that way too. First, he is in depression and attempts suicide. Second, he comes to acceptance and decides to learn to control it. Third, he has learned to control it and can turn into Hulk at will, such as when he chooses to turn into Hulk during the Chitauri invasion and retains control of himself while Hulked out.

anomynous

The suicide attempt was the alternate opening in TIH.




Are there really people who still try to argue that TIH isn't in continuity/a part of the MCU?

The Valeyard

It's just like people who argue that Batman '66 isn't coming out on DVD.

Lord Zarak

The Stark scene in TIH was retroactively explained in the One Shot "The Consultant." The World Security Counsel wanted the Abomination recruited for the Avengers Initiative due to his soldier experience. Abomination was being held by General Ross, and SHIELD had no real intention of actually wanting to recruit him. So they sent Stark to talk to Ross knowing that Stark's ego would rub Ross the wrong way and refuse to give up custody of the Abomination.

taffer

Holy crap. I thought you were making that up, but I googled it, and apparently it is a deleted scene.

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Yeah, its stupid. The big "Phase One" Blu-ray set includes the Incredible Hulk movie. It is most definitely 100% without a doubt part of the MCU.

The Ang Lee Hulk is not, but the Incredible Hulk most definitely is.

james2025a

Exactly. I actually would like to have seen Hurt back as General Ross in some of the other movies. He was a nice addition to the Incredible Hulk.

I get the feeling that maybe for Phase 4 Marvel is planning on introducing the Inhumans. By the time we get to Avengers 3 we will have also had Guardians of the Galaxy and we will have been along the cosmic road for a while and with those movies (well Avengers any way) well in their stride i think Marvel will like the idea of possibly having one more cinematic team of super heroes to go to for Summer Blockbusters. They are planning on getting the Defenders eventually via Netflix, so maybe by this point we might get an almighty rooster of characters in a Secret Wars type movie or maybe a Civil War. I know thats maybe stretching it, but i really think if Marvel is to play it smart they need to continue looking well down the road at future projects and more team based movies seems to be a lucrative way to go.

I also wonder if we will get to see characters like Captain Marvel, Adam Warlock (i guess already in the Thor 2 end scene...to some extent), Captain Britain in any future movies? And also curious to see what Marvel does with characters like Blade, Ghost Rider and Punisher now they have the rights back. Which route will they go with them....TV or movies? Or simply do nothing.

Oh, and i cannot wait for The Winter Soldier. From the news on the web it seems that Hyrda will be back in play and that this will continue on in Avengers: Age of Ultron. That to me is a good move. I really enjoyed The First Avenger and felt it was the best movie of Phase 1. I would love to see Red Skull return at some point even though it seems Hugo Weaving won't have interest in playing the role.

anomynous

You can also see Captain America in the ice in that alternate opening, but that's just an easter egg.

Solid Snake

I still would like to see an extended cut of Norton's film. There was a good chunk of good stuff that was left out. The original opening for sure was a very good character moment. Was neat that they kind of referenced it in The Avengers. Though that one goes further in saying that he actually went with the deed.

But Marvel wanted to get to smashing quicker.

taffer

If a raccoon with a machine gun works, then sure why not an almighty rooster too.

Solid Snake

Captain Britain is part of the X franchise.

I'd kill to see Union Jack in a film. If only we could have had The Invaders as a film. Somehow it could have been done. Though Torch, no relation to Johnny, is part of Fox...no? Not like universal has any use for Namor.

resinrats

I think Inhumans would fall under the Fantasic Four license. AKA, Marvel can't use them. Sort of how they couldn't use Skrulls. Always seemed in the comics, it was the FF that mostly dealt with Inhumans.

james2025a

Its funny as Captain Britain is not a mutant. I know he is part of Excalibur, but to me he would appear to be one of those fringe characters that overlaps in the comic continuum.

I thought that Marvel owned the rights to the Invaders version of the Torch? The Invaders could be cool. And Namor would be a really interesting addition to the Marvel Movie Universe.

james2025a

Marvel can use Skrulls...they just cannot use the Super Skrull. And i doubt the Inhumans comes under the Fantastic Four license.

superdeluxe

I thought I read that Marvel is going to use the Inhuman's as their way of getting 'mutant' like powers and not calling them mutants.

superdeluxe

4th phase of Avengers:

Doctor Strange
Ant Man
Black Panther
The Wasp
The Falcon
Scarlet Witch
Quicksilver
Vision?

With maybe some holdovers such as Captain America and the Hulk. to keep some contuinity.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/01/29...udios-phase-4/

The Valeyard

Captain Marvel
Hercules
She-Hulk

Is Spider-Woman part of Sony's Spider-Man package?

devilshalo

They need to bring back the Leader at some point even if they never go forward with another Hulk film.

taffer

I have been hoping that is who the "Clairvoyant" on Agents of SHIELD is going to be.


Sony probably has the rights to all of the "spider" characters. Spider-Woman, Spider-Girl, Scarlet Spider, Spider-Man 2099, Ultimate Spider-Man, Spider-Ham...

dave94

I'd pay to see a Peter Porker movie!