Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox (2013)
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I hear conflicting reports about this. While Wikipedia lists it among the most profitable, Warner/DC has said that a sequel to WW was scrapped because it didn't sell well. And it's the only DC title I've seen show up frequently at deep discount stores like Big Lots and Five Below.
It is an excellent movie, though.
It is an excellent movie, though.
From what I heard, WW didn't sell as quickly as the WB would have liked. Even tho it's become profitable over time, they were looking for "sold out in it's first week" type sales. Batman, Superman and (especially) Justice League sell good and quick which is why we see more of those titles now.
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I read somewhere that there was supposed to be an extended cut or rated r version of WW released but since it didn't sell as well it got scratched. Also I agree with the rest WW along with Under the Red and now Flaspoint are among the best output from DC animated although I do like them all
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I watched this yesterday; it didn't wow me given the high praise, but enjoyed it a lot and was really surprised at how violent it was; some blood, holes through people's bodies and heads, limbs getting cut off, heroes and villains dying... cool to see and really felt like it upped the stakes as far as consequences. I just didn't like how it wrapped up.
Meanwhile, I never did watch Wonder Woman. I'll have to go check it out given the praise here.
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Meanwhile, I never did watch Wonder Woman. I'll have to go check it out given the praise here.
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I always thought Batman was a dick for not killing Joker, when WW has to bust heads its never like "Don't do that!" as the reader. I liked Wonder Woman the movie a lot but didn't think it was the same level as this and Red Hood.
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Loved this movie. I thought it was easily the best of the DC animated movies. I liked WW but didn't think it was anything special except it was nice to have a WW movie.
The only thing I didn't care for was batman. I couldn't see a doctor becoming the worlds greatest detective. I did like the concept though.
The only thing I didn't care for was batman. I couldn't see a doctor becoming the worlds greatest detective. I did like the concept though.
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Loved this movie. I thought it was easily the best of the DC animated movies. I liked WW but didn't think it was anything special except it was nice to have a WW movie.
The only thing I didn't care for was batman. I couldn't see a doctor becoming the worlds greatest detective. I did like the concept though.
The only thing I didn't care for was batman. I couldn't see a doctor becoming the worlds greatest detective. I did like the concept though.
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That reminds me of something else I didn't care fore. Batman was created through his experiences. His father would have different experiences and experiencing them at a far older age. Some of those things were reflected in the new batman. He wasn't super smart, he relied more on guns than gadgets. But still took up the mantle of batman. Why not owlman or anything else. Does he still have his photographic memory? The event creating batamn was so different the end result should have been far greater.
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Scan from Batman: Year One showing his age:
That reminds me of something else I didn't care fore. Batman was created through his experiences. His father would have different experiences and experiencing them at a far older age. Some of those things were reflected in the new batman. He wasn't super smart, he relied more on guns than gadgets. But still took up the mantle of batman. Why not owlman or anything else. Does he still have his photographic memory? The event creating batamn was so different the end result should have been far greater.
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I guess I am in the minority, because I didn't care for this one at all. Thought it was one of the weakest of the DC Animated movies. As a casual fan of the comics, I had no idea who most of the people were and they didn't even bother to name them. I liked the violence and "adult-ness" for lack of a better term, but to me if you have to know the source material to follow along, then the film has failed.
I have seen every DC animated film and even with ones that have characters I am not as familiar with, they did a much better job of explaining or at least providing names for them without having to resort to Wikipedia. This just seemed like a masturbation effort for fans of this particular story.
I have seen every DC animated film and even with ones that have characters I am not as familiar with, they did a much better job of explaining or at least providing names for them without having to resort to Wikipedia. This just seemed like a masturbation effort for fans of this particular story.
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Reverse Flash who they kept calling some other name so I didn't even know they were referring to him most of the time. I had to Wikipedia to see it was Thawne. The rest are all from Wikipedia but who I never heard of before and most not mentioned by name in the film that I can remember.
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whoever all those kids were.
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not bad, not bad at all. nice violence, good story, exciting in some parts, confusing in others, but overall probably 2nd for me after Wonder Woman in the DC Universe of animated films.
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I didn't know who Reverse Flash was either, so them calling him Thawne or Zoom or whoever confused me a bit, but they gave enough back story about him that it wasn't a big deal.
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Reverse Flash who they kept calling some other name so I didn't even know they were referring to him most of the time. I had to Wikipedia to see it was Thawne. The rest are all from Wikipedia but who I never heard of before and most not mentioned by name in the film that I can remember.
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You must not be much a Flash fan because Reverse-Flash/Zoom, Captain Boomerang, Heat Wave, and Mirror Master are all classic Flash rogues.
Etrigan the Demon isn't that minor of a character really. He had several appearances in Bruce Timm's DCAU.
The kids were new characters introduced in Flashpoint, so not knowing them is understandable. Basically the Flashpoint version of Captain Marvel isn't just Billy Batson shouting "SHAZAM!!" to transform into Captain Marvel, but rather all those kids together turn into Captain Marvel kind of like all the lions come together to form Voltron. It was a pretty stupid change.
Etrigan the Demon isn't that minor of a character really. He had several appearances in Bruce Timm's DCAU.
The kids were new characters introduced in Flashpoint, so not knowing them is understandable. Basically the Flashpoint version of Captain Marvel isn't just Billy Batson shouting "SHAZAM!!" to transform into Captain Marvel, but rather all those kids together turn into Captain Marvel kind of like all the lions come together to form Voltron. It was a pretty stupid change.
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Really?
Why is Supes head so tiny?
What is wrong with GL's nose?!?
Oh GOD! Aquamans been infected with tinyheaditis too!
Change her hair and Wonder Woman could be any generic anime lady.
Looks like the animator just gave the fuck up on Superman here.
And this is just from the first 10 minutes. I say no thank you to giant eyed superheroes.
Why is Supes head so tiny?
What is wrong with GL's nose?!?
Oh GOD! Aquamans been infected with tinyheaditis too!
Change her hair and Wonder Woman could be any generic anime lady.
Looks like the animator just gave the fuck up on Superman here.
And this is just from the first 10 minutes. I say no thank you to giant eyed superheroes.
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Really?
Why is Supes head so tiny?
What is wrong with GL's nose?!?
Oh GOD! Aquamans been infected with tinyheaditis too!
Change her hair and Wonder Woman could be any generic anime lady.
Looks like the animator just gave the fuck up on Superman here.
And this is just from the first 10 minutes. I say no thank you to giant eyed superheroes.
Why is Supes head so tiny?
What is wrong with GL's nose?!?
Oh GOD! Aquamans been infected with tinyheaditis too!
Change her hair and Wonder Woman could be any generic anime lady.
Looks like the animator just gave the fuck up on Superman here.
And this is just from the first 10 minutes. I say no thank you to giant eyed superheroes.