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Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Old 05-02-15, 06:42 PM
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
The 'colorized' version looks just as unnatural, but in the other direction, and doesn't fit the tone of the movie.
Ideally, the look of the movie would be somewhere in between the two. Snyder went too far in desaturating the color, and the enhanced color version went and added a little too much color.

Still, if I had to watch one or the other I'd watch the version with the restored color.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
Ideally, the look of the movie would be somewhere in between the two. Snyder went too far in desaturating the color, and the enhanced color version went and added a little too much color.

Still, if I had to watch one or the other I'd watch the version with the restored color.
I think I'd opt for the director's original vision. Like I said, the new colors don't match the tone of the film. Brighter colors won't make the tone of the film brighter.
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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
I think I'd opt for the director's original vision. Like I said, the new colors don't match the tone of the film. Brighter colors won't make the tone of the film brighter.
But the color on the theatrical version is just too muted for my tastes. I agree that the enhanced colors are a bit too bright for this movie, but that's why I said that something in between would be ideal.

Of course, the movie itself is still very flawed. The chance to make the ultimate Superman movie was blown. An overly dark, somber first 2/3 and an overly, obnoxiously, loud last 1/3 really make for a mediocre movie.

The concept was there. The characters were there. The script and direction just missed the mark.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
That was just a far out example. Don't ever teach or critique film, because you won't know what you're talking about if you defend the colorization of the film.
Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Can you colorize a film that's already in color? More like going back and removing the instagram filter Snyder had a hard on for.
Exactly.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Can you colorize a film that's already in color? More like going back and removing the instagram filter Snyder had a hard on for.
The video w/ the BS restored color looks like a generic instagram filter.

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In some shots, sure, mostly when Supes is flying but overall I think it's a vast improvement.
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An instagram filter within an instagram filter?
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Can you colorize a film that's already in color? More like going back and removing the instagram filter Snyder had a hard on for.
Tomato, tomatoe.

Same shit, different drink.
Old 05-04-15, 07:25 PM
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So you're totally on board with the Star Wars: Special Super Re-mix-mastered Uber Editions..."Now with moar Hayden Christensen" instead of the OT? I mean, director's vision and all.
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I still would rather take Snyder's look than the crap "restored colors" which is just BS cuz they look worse just from a tech point.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

As much as I think that the film looks a lot better with the restored colors rather than the weird filter Snyder chose to use I do agree that it isn't necessarily right to change it. I'd be okay if a new edition were to come out featuring the restored colors which also featured the original version shown in theaters.
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Well for starters a de-saturated color palette doesn't bother me that much. The reason why that look became a popular instagram filter is because it became a popular technique in professional photography. It's a perfectly cromulent technique in film making, and I think it fits the tone of the picture. Would you guys be okay 'colorizing' some of your favorite comic books? Not all of them are as bright and vibrant as what's seen in the youtube video above, some are black-and-white, many are older comics are limited by the types of paper they were printed on. Man of Steel actually has some issues, but this is just subjective, there's nothing wrong with the look of the film.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
Well for starters a de-saturated color palette doesn't bother me that much. The reason why that look became a popular instagram filter is because it became a popular technique in professional photography.
Wait, what? That's an actual filter? I was just making a joke.

As for the 'color matches the tone of the film' angle... how the hell did Hollywood manage to make dramas for a half a century before desaturating them?

I think you can have Superman in full color and have a dramatic and or somber film. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Wait, what? That's an actual filter? I was just making a joke.
Not exactly:

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
As for the 'color matches the tone of the film' angle... how the hell did Hollywood manage to make dramas for a half a century before desaturating them?
They didn't have the technology until recently. I promise you some of your favorite classic films would look different if they had access to today's techniques.
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Finally watched this. Wish I hadn't. What a mess. Doesn't give me confidence for the upcoming Batman film.
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Finally watched this. Wish I hadn't. What a mess. Doesn't give me confidence for the upcoming Batman film.
Watch the latest trailer for batman vs superman vs all teh peoples and you will lose what little confidence you had left.
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Originally Posted by Trevor
Finally watched this. Wish I hadn't. What a mess. Doesn't give me confidence for the upcoming Batman film.
I actually didn't think Green Lantern and Daredevil were as bad as most people were saying yet I thought this was terrible. In other words its gotta be pretty bad for me not to like it.
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Jesus. GL was hitting every cliche in the most mediocre fashion. It's the text of hitting what one would expect out of a superhero film.. in a mediocre form.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Finally checked out the Agent 9 cut last night. The re-coloring alone is well worth checking out. I mean Superman actually wears red and blue now! Well, for the most part, some scenes were still the darker colors. Amazing how that one little change affects your feelings toward the character and film.

First, the title sequence was unnecessary. 1970's graphics is not in any way integral to the character. That seemed more like an exercise in graphic design.

The re-cutting was also interesting. Shaving down Krypton was more than welcome. Made for some much needed tighter pacing. Also making the "Deadliest Catch" and young Clark stuff flashback material was inspired but losing the oil rig scene sucked. Losing Jonathan's death was a plus. The final battle was still pretty long but seemed trimmed a bit which was good.

Dropping the entire score in favor of Williams' work was a mixed bag. I had higher hopes than the outcome. I assumed it would have been a blended score. The main theme will always work in the right spot(which was used sparingly), but the more nuanced Williams pieces don't quite work with Snyder's style.
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Re: Man of Steel (Snyder, 2013) The Reviews Thread (Part II)

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
Finally checked out the Agent 9 cut last night. The re-coloring alone is well worth checking out. I mean Superman actually wears red and blue now! Well, for the most part, some scenes were still the darker colors. Amazing how that one little change affects your feelings toward the character and film.

First, the title sequence was unnecessary. 1970's graphics is not in any way integral to the character. That seemed more like an exercise in graphic design.

The re-cutting was also interesting. Shaving down Krypton was more than welcome. Made for some much needed tighter pacing. Also making the "Deadliest Catch" and young Clark stuff flashback material was inspired but losing the oil rig scene sucked. Losing Jonathan's death was a plus. The final battle was still pretty long but seemed trimmed a bit which was good.

Dropping the entire score in favor of Williams' work was a mixed bag. I had higher hopes than the outcome. I assumed it would have been a blended score. The main theme will always work in the right spot(which was used sparingly), but the more nuanced Williams pieces don't quite work with Snyder's style.
I've had a copy of this cut for months and finally got around to watching it. I applaud Agent 9 for thinking there's enough in Man of Steel to cut into a decent film, and taking their best shot at it. However, even by cutting out the fat, recoloring, and adding the Williams score, it only highlights how terrible the bulk of the movie is. The dialogue is frequently awful, the pace frenetic, and the destruction porn feels even more inappropriate when you put it against Williams' music and brightened colors of this cut. Killing Zod still feels like cheap, lazy screenwriting. It's just a thankless task.

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