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HUGE Trek fan. I'm ok with it. I don't feel ripped off by the ending, and their it's what you would've done moment was them coming to terms with each others personalities/styles. 5 times the budget gets you 5 times the action I guess huh.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I wasn't going to use them because I think the Reviews Thread is fair game, but since I was going to talk specifically about the ending, and because it was a number of days before U.S. release, I figured better safe than sorry and followed Sierra Disc's lead. It's always possible people could wander in here without realizing what it is (and it looks like they might already have).
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A.O. Scott's mixed-to-negative review in The New York Times:
http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/16...ef=movies&_r=0
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http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/16...ef=movies&_r=0
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After increasingly noisy and bloated starship battles, “Into Darkness” reaches a climax with the smashing of a North American city followed by a long fistfight on a flying metal platform. It’s uninspired hackwork, and the frequent appearance of blue lens flares does not make this movie any more of a personal statement. Mr. Abrams will never be Michael Bay, who can make kinetic poetry out of huge pieces of machinery smashing together. Why should he want to be?
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
A.O. Scott's mixed-to-negative review in The New York Times:
http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/16...ef=movies&_r=0
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http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/05/16...ef=movies&_r=0
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The only two times I struggled to follow the action on Trek was the hallway battle with Scotty, Khan & Kirk, and then the following fight on the bridge (Shakey-cam fights go off poorly in 3D). I really liked the panning out to see the Khan & Spock fight.
I enjoyed the film personally.
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There were a shitload of trailers attached to my showing: Despicable Me 2, Last Vegas, Ender's Game, World War Z... a couple others I can't recall.
Admittedly, I've never seen an entire episode of any Trek series from start to finish. I did watch Wrath of Khan once and almost fell asleep during it, but even I noticed the "homages" in this new film. I really enjoyed J.J. Abrams Star Trek and it was still an enjoyable experience revisiting this version of the crew. But after waiting four years, I was hoping for a plot that was a little less... predictable? The alternate reality angle gave them free rein to go in any direction they wanted, including killing off major characters. I was hoping they would shake things up a bit more in this one.
Overall, I had a good time. Not as enjoyable as the last one, but easily the best film I've seen in theaters this year. High praise, considering I've seen a grand total of four so far.
Admittedly, I've never seen an entire episode of any Trek series from start to finish. I did watch Wrath of Khan once and almost fell asleep during it, but even I noticed the "homages" in this new film. I really enjoyed J.J. Abrams Star Trek and it was still an enjoyable experience revisiting this version of the crew. But after waiting four years, I was hoping for a plot that was a little less... predictable? The alternate reality angle gave them free rein to go in any direction they wanted, including killing off major characters. I was hoping they would shake things up a bit more in this one.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I hate you, Troll.
Seriously though even the trailer has lens flare and I like the last movie. I shall see it tomorrow.
Seriously though even the trailer has lens flare and I like the last movie. I shall see it tomorrow.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
Saw the midnight showing last night. Lifelong Trek fan and I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it yet. I liked certain aspects of it and the cast has mostly grown on me in their roles. Karl Urban as McCoy and Simon Pegg as Scotty have particularly been enjoyable to me as nice nods to their original counterparts. Something about this one just didn't quite capture me like the first one did. Maybe I need to see the film again but this kind of left me underwhelmed especially after being so hyped for it for the longest time.
I agree with others that
I also agree with the sentiment that this movie felt too action heavy. Yeah we get it casual audiences probably aren't going to like the more slow paced, space exploring stuff that Star Trek is known for but this in a lot of ways didn't feel much like a Trek film at all. It felt in some ways like any other sci-fi action film only with Star Trek characters added in.
I agree with others that
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I also agree with the sentiment that this movie felt too action heavy. Yeah we get it casual audiences probably aren't going to like the more slow paced, space exploring stuff that Star Trek is known for but this in a lot of ways didn't feel much like a Trek film at all. It felt in some ways like any other sci-fi action film only with Star Trek characters added in.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I also agree with the sentiment that this movie felt too action heavy. Yeah we get it casual audiences probably aren't going to like the more slow paced, space exploring stuff that Star Trek is known for but this in a lot of ways didn't feel much like a Trek film at all. It felt in some ways like any other sci-fi action film only with Star Trek characters added in.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I really liked it. Sure it could have been more original, but I liked all the nods and the acting was good. Certainly could have been fresher and not as gripping as the original 2009 Trek, but it found its footing and worked for me. Can't wait for more.
Also, thought the 3D was not very effective. Didnt even notice I was watching it in Real 3D after awhile.
Also, thought the 3D was not very effective. Didnt even notice I was watching it in Real 3D after awhile.
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Knowing specific plot points made me enjoy the movie far more than had I went in blindly expecting originality. The biggest problem I had with the film is Pine lacked so much screen presence when placed against Cumberbatch, Urban, Weller, Greenwood, and hell, even Quinto. His Kirk is a true shell of the original character.
That said, it was what I expected, Action Trek 2. No insightful social commentary, just a well-paced, exciting, yet derivative (at least in the second half) film. Not as great as the last film, but a lot better than most of the pre-reboot films.
If I had to give it a grade, a very weak A, maybe A-.
That said, it was what I expected, Action Trek 2. No insightful social commentary, just a well-paced, exciting, yet derivative (at least in the second half) film. Not as great as the last film, but a lot better than most of the pre-reboot films.
If I had to give it a grade, a very weak A, maybe A-.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I liked it a lot. It's more Space Seed than Wrath of Khan, which is a good thing. As for the ending, I'm hoping that was a "okay, for the fans, now we're going to do some new things going forward". If future sequels are derivative, I'll think less of this one.
I agree that there was too much action and not enough slow moments. The pacing felt off, like it was rushed, and I noticed characters in the credits who weren't in the film, so maybe there's a longer cut?
I agree that there was too much action and not enough slow moments. The pacing felt off, like it was rushed, and I noticed characters in the credits who weren't in the film, so maybe there's a longer cut?
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This diehard Trekker LOVED it! I don't know what you guys are harping about. I don't know if those complaining are appreciating the fact that this is an alternate timeline. It is so much more then an homage to wrath of khan. It shows that even with their lives altered and their roles reversed that their friendship is strong enough to make the same type of sacrifice. I also liked how instead of ignoring the weaknesses in the story they address it such as Kirks fast rise to captaincy and his recklessness. All of the references were excellent. Loved that it was section 31!
My only gripe would be the hint with the tribble was too obvious and too close to the end. I think if they did that when he first took the blood sample the audience might have forgotten about it.
My only gripe would be the hint with the tribble was too obvious and too close to the end. I think if they did that when he first took the blood sample the audience might have forgotten about it.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
Now that it's opening day, let's get this over with:
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A few other things popped into my head during the movie. Feel free to discuss or ignore:
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A few other things popped into my head during the movie. Feel free to discuss or ignore:
- Why has Praxis already exploded? My guess is that the Klingons had to speed up their advancement because of Nero as well, which lead to premature over-mining of the moon.
- Why does Cumberbatch refer to the life support system being "Behind the aft nacelle"? There is a starboard and a port nacelle, not a fore and aft. Bad writing, mis-read, or valid for some reason I don't understand?
- Carol Marcus is now British, for some reason. Timeline changes lead her to having a different mother, or being raised in London or something, perhaps?
- So the crew has already encountered Mudd, and Cyrano Jones, apparently, despite not having started on their 5-year mission yet. Looks like lots of paths have been diverted in the new timeline.
- I think Kirk could have used a little bubbly-skin makeup in the climax.
- I like how the writers got Christine Chapel off the ship probably so fans wouldn't keep wondering about her.
- Also, Kirk in a three-way with at least one cat-girl. Nice to see onscreen what we all knew he was up to in TOS.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I think he is talking about for the rest of the thread. Typically review threads don't have spoiler tags, but since this one opened early in a few countries and then nation wide sneak preview some of us used them anyways. He is leaving a notice for anyone reading from page one that there will be spoilers without tags from now on in the thread.
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Re: Star Trek Into Darkness (Abrams, 2013) — The Reviews Thread
I saw it last night and loved it. I was never a huge fan of TOS but loved TNG & DS9. This is Action Trek, not the more insightful explorations of humanity and morality that the TV shows did but then again, those wouldn't make the same amount of money in the theatres. It's just something I've learned to accept about the Trek movies.
Like any Trek film, this will be nitpicked to death but from an initial viewing, I thought it greatly succeeded. And as a huge fan of DS9, I was thrilled to see that show acknowledged in the JJ-verse.
I saw this in IMAX 3D but I couldn't really tell which scenes were in IMAX. I read 30 minutes of the movie is in that format so I'm going to assume all the big set pieces were in IMAX.
There were a shit ton of trailers, all for other genre movies coming out soon. Man of Steel (in 3D), Pacific Rim, Elysium, The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones, Ender's Game, Thor: The Dark World, and The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
Like any Trek film, this will be nitpicked to death but from an initial viewing, I thought it greatly succeeded. And as a huge fan of DS9, I was thrilled to see that show acknowledged in the JJ-verse.
I saw this in IMAX 3D but I couldn't really tell which scenes were in IMAX. I read 30 minutes of the movie is in that format so I'm going to assume all the big set pieces were in IMAX.
There were a shit ton of trailers, all for other genre movies coming out soon. Man of Steel (in 3D), Pacific Rim, Elysium, The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones, Ender's Game, Thor: The Dark World, and The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
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#49
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I'll say this for STiD: it was a fine Trek movie that will never hold a candle to the best Trek movies or even "Space Seed".
I'm reserving judgement about the future of Trek until I'm watching a new Trek TV series, though. Trek movies were always more action-oriented and the ones that weren't were generally terrible. At least Abrams gives us good action.
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Let's face it, Khan hangs like a shadow over all Trek films except TMP. Even non-Trekkers know about Khan. They needed to get him out of the way.