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Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
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I found the camerawork truly distracting when it was during singing close-ups, mainly because the actors drift in and out of focus (Hugh Jackman, I'm looking at you!). Most of that criticism has to be laid on the doorsteps of Tom Hooper. Russell Crowe is more miss than hit for his singing as Javert, his singing just stood out in a bad way for this production. Hugh Jackman's singing voice didn't really grow on me for his turn as Jean Valjean. Anne Hathaway had some really good, powerful moments in her limited screen time as Fantine. Kind of disliked how Fantine's daughter Cosette was basically used as a plot device, not as a human character throughout the story. The "love triangle" between Cosette, Marius and Eponine was just odd. Eddie Redmayne (Marius) has a Kermit the Frog singing voice, it distracted me. Amanda Seyfried (young adult Cosette) had sort of a trilly singing voice, not overloaded with vibratto, but enough to be cognizant of it. Samantha Barks seemed to be out of place as Eponine because her voice was pretty solid. Helena Bonham Carter and Sacha Baron Cohen felt like characters in a different movie when their characters show up in the film, tonally they were in a very different place.
The script's pacing felt overly long, and I doubt I'll ever want to see this film version of "Les Miserables" ever again. Without Hathaway's and Barks' performances, I'd call it "Les Unmemorables".
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
The script's pacing felt overly long, and I doubt I'll ever want to see this film version of "Les Miserables" ever again. Without Hathaway's and Barks' performances, I'd call it "Les Unmemorables".
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
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However, I find it funny that he makes these criticisms as his annoying "Hulk" persona in all capital letters. Has he considered that his gimmick makes his articles harder to read and affects how we perceive HIS material?
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
That was an interesting article, and he makes good points about how the way a film is shot affects how we perceive it as viewers.
However, I find it funny that he makes these criticisms as his annoying "Hulk" persona in all capital letters. Has he considered that his gimmick makes his articles harder to read and affects how we perceive HIS material?
However, I find it funny that he makes these criticisms as his annoying "Hulk" persona in all capital letters. Has he considered that his gimmick makes his articles harder to read and affects how we perceive HIS material?
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
I found the camerawork truly distracting when it was during singing close-ups, mainly because the actors drift in and out of focus (Hugh Jackman, I'm looking at you!). Most of that criticism has to be laid on the doorsteps of Tom Hooper. Russell Crowe is more miss than hit for his singing as Javert, his singing just stood out in a bad way for this production. Hugh Jackman's singing voice didn't really grow on me for his turn as Jean Valjean. Anne Hathaway had some really good, powerful moments in her limited screen time as Fantine. Kind of disliked how Fantine's daughter Cosette was basically used as a plot device, not as a human character throughout the story. The "love triangle" between Cosette, Marius and Eponine was just odd. Eddie Redmayne (Marius) has a Kermit the Frog singing voice, it distracted me. Amanda Seyfried (young adult Cosette) had sort of a trilly singing voice, not overloaded with vibratto, but enough to be cognizant of it. Samantha Barks seemed to be out of place as Eponine because her voice was pretty solid. Helena Bonham Carter and Sacha Baron Cohen felt like characters in a different movie when their characters show up in the film, tonally they were in a very different place.
The script's pacing felt overly long, and I doubt I'll ever want to see this film version of "Les Miserables" ever again. Without Hathaway's and Barks' performances, I'd call it "Les Unmemorables".
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
The script's pacing felt overly long, and I doubt I'll ever want to see this film version of "Les Miserables" ever again. Without Hathaway's and Barks' performances, I'd call it "Les Unmemorables".
I give it 2 stars, or a grade of C.
Also who pissed off the Patman script?
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
Yeah, I gave up trying to read the article because it was giving me a headache.
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
It's pretty funny that Samantha Barks would stand out because of her singing ... she's the one they actually pulled from the Les Miserables stage ranks (and plays Eponine in the 25th Anniversary concert). Lots of people like to bag on both Jackman and Crowe for their singing and, while there may be a point to be made there, without Hollywood stars, this movie does not get made.
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It's pretty funny that Samantha Barks would stand out because of her singing ... she's the one they actually pulled from the Les Miserables stage ranks (and plays Eponine in the 25th Anniversary concert). Lots of people like to bag on both Jackman and Crowe for their singing and, while there may be a point to be made there, without Hollywood stars, this movie does not get made.
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
um, I know, but he was not pulled from a stage version of Les Mis, which is what my point was in terms of having a voice matched for the material. Personally, I don't have a problem with him as JVJ, though I definitely think his "Bring him Home" was fairly weak compared to Colm Wilkinson or Alfie Boe.
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um, I know, but he was not pulled from a stage version of Les Mis, which is what my point was in terms of having a voice matched for the material. Personally, I don't have a problem with him as JVJ, though I definitely think his "Bring him Home" was fairly weak compared to Colm Wilkinson or Alfie Boe.
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um, I know, but he was not pulled from a stage version of Les Mis, which is what my point was in terms of having a voice matched for the material. Personally, I don't have a problem with him as JVJ, though I definitely think his "Bring him Home" was fairly weak compared to Colm Wilkinson or Alfie Boe.
oh come on, don't be that naive, to say that only a male singer/actor that had been cast in a stage version of Les Mis is suitable for the film version seems a bit biased, granted Colm and Alfie's vocal range is a bit broader than Hugh's, he certainly has the stage acting/musical training cred to his name.
I think Colm's acting has only been stage bound, and given the fact that he had to act/sing to the folk in the rafters, stage and film acting are two completely different things.
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I just can't disagree more with the notion that Hooper was wrong to film with live singing. Having a polished, pre-recorded soundtrack lip-synced by actors hoping to capture the necessary emotion would have been a huge mistake.
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
My problem w/ most musicals is that when they start singing...the actions don't ever really match up to the audio well enough for me. In this one...they were together and you saw it.
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We've all seen movie musicals and the ones that we loved had pre-recorded singing. It's not a problem that needed to be fixed.
Camera placement, now that's a problem that still needs to be solved for some.
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...I would totally watch a Rush version of Les Mis. YYZ-edition.
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
I saw it tonight and absolutely loved it. I think the decision to use live singing was a good one, as it worked in most all cases. I was worried about the "close ups" people were complaining about, but that didn't really bother me. Russell Crowe is no Philip Quast, but I thought he held his own as Javert. I don't know why but it seemed like his singing improved from the beginning.
One song I was sort of disappointed with was "Master of the House". It felt kind of flat and lifeless, and not the fun, crowd pleasing show stopper it is in the stage version. I know movies need to dial things down a bit because they don't have to play to the back of the balcony, but if there's one song that needs to be super loud and boisterous and over the top, it's this one.
The only character I have issues with is Cossette, but it's the same issue as it is in the play. Like Patman mentioned, she's basically there as a plot device and doesn't have the emotional depth everyone else has. So I'll give credit to Eddie Redmayne for making believe in his feelings for her.
I give this a strong 4.5/5
One song I was sort of disappointed with was "Master of the House". It felt kind of flat and lifeless, and not the fun, crowd pleasing show stopper it is in the stage version. I know movies need to dial things down a bit because they don't have to play to the back of the balcony, but if there's one song that needs to be super loud and boisterous and over the top, it's this one.
The only character I have issues with is Cossette, but it's the same issue as it is in the play. Like Patman mentioned, she's basically there as a plot device and doesn't have the emotional depth everyone else has. So I'll give credit to Eddie Redmayne for making believe in his feelings for her.
I give this a strong 4.5/5
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Re: Les Miserables (2012, D. Tom Hooper, *not* Tobe) - The Reviews Thread
I saw it tonight and absolutely loved it. I think the decision to use live singing was a good one, as it worked in most all cases. I was worried about the "close ups" people were complaining about, but that didn't really bother me. Russell Crowe is no Philip Quast, but I thought he held his own as Javert. I don't know why but it seemed like his singing improved from the beginning.
One song I was sort of disappointed with was "Master of the House". It felt kind of flat and lifeless, and not the fun, crowd pleasing show stopper it is in the stage version. I know movies need to dial things down a bit because they don't have to play to the back of the balcony, but if there's one song that needs to be super loud and boisterous and over the top, it's this one.
The only character I have issues with is Cossette, but it's the same issue as it is in the play. Like Patman mentioned, she's basically there as a plot device and doesn't have the emotional depth everyone else has. So I'll give credit to Eddie Redmayne for making believe in his feelings for her.
I give this a strong 4.5/5
One song I was sort of disappointed with was "Master of the House". It felt kind of flat and lifeless, and not the fun, crowd pleasing show stopper it is in the stage version. I know movies need to dial things down a bit because they don't have to play to the back of the balcony, but if there's one song that needs to be super loud and boisterous and over the top, it's this one.
The only character I have issues with is Cossette, but it's the same issue as it is in the play. Like Patman mentioned, she's basically there as a plot device and doesn't have the emotional depth everyone else has. So I'll give credit to Eddie Redmayne for making believe in his feelings for her.
I give this a strong 4.5/5
I saw this again the other day, but in DCP/7.1 and it became suddenly clear why this was nominated for 'sound mixing' - the 35mm print I saw prior sounded very very wrong. For reasons unknown, the music sounded compressed and buried under the voices, on the lossless audio version (with the extra two rear channels of sound) - the difference was night and day - it was simply gorgeous and revealed a dynamic range that brought the more grandiose songs: 'One Day More' and 'Do You Hear the People Sing?' to heightened emotional effect.