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Old 11-11-12, 07:50 PM
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Re: Skyfall (Mendes, 2012) — The Double-O Reviews Thread

So this is definitely a movie that I want to see again. I snoozed on-and-off for the first twenty minutes (my fault ... shouldn't have went when I was so tired). I love it when these genre-heavy movies are really well directed and well acted.
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I thought it was the best of Daniel Craig's Bond movies.

Great directing by Mendes and I thought it was a good script by Purvis, Wade and Logan. I think it was the best of their original scripts since they became the primary Bond writers (Purvis and Wade). I want to emphasize original scripts since Casino Royale was an adaption from a Ian Fleming book. I know most here think Casino Royale was the best Craig movie.

Sucks that they:

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Killed off Judi Dench's M. But I like that Fiennes is the new M. That's a good choice IMO.


I also wasn't expecting that Naomie Harris' character would be:

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the new Moneypenny. Didn't realize that we haven't seen her in the Craig-era.


When they threw in the Astin Martin, I was like Oh Shit!! Nice throwback to 60's Bond.

I was thoroughly entertained. Bardem was one of the more unique Bond villains. Glad the Producers were confidant enough to put the "James Bond will return" graphic before the end credits started rolling. I know SkyFall almost didn't happen because of MGM's problems. Hopefully they can get another one out in 2-3 years instead of 4. The Box office for SkyFall so far is pretty insane.

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Great flick. Plenty of action and suspense.
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This did not live up to the hype for me in the slightest. My dad is a huge James Bond fan and has probably seen every film during their original release. He also agreed that this was one of the weaker entries. The whole plot just felt tired. Apart from the motor cylce chase at the beginning and the final "Skyfall" showdown, I was fairly bored. I mean, some moments were just eye-rollingly bad.
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A man-eating CG komodo dragon? Really? And how the hell did Bardem manage to overtake the armed guard while leaving his cell? It just seemed like lazy screenwriting to me. Plus, the lack of a real Bond girl to follow through the whole film (I'm not counting Moneypenny) was sorely missed. I suppose with this being Judi Dench's sendoff, it made more sense to focus on M in the last third of the movie.
LOVED Casino Royale, but this felt closer in quality to Quantum of Solace (which is hardly a compliment). Maybe the luster has worn off of Daniel Craig for me.

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No, Fiennes is perfect. But they should have gotten Connery to play the Albert Finney role.
My friend and I thought the same thing. It likely would have cost them a fortune for that to happen, unless Connery was in a generous mood, deciding to do it for nothing for the franchise that really gave him his start. Would have been cool, but I also don't think they wanted the new Bond being out-shined by an older one.

Finney did get one of the best lines of the flick, though.
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I like the end when it essentially became Home Alone.
I was kinda thinking Straw Dogs too.
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I was thinking Rio Bravo.
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I like the end when it essentially became Home Alone.
Haha. I heard this mentioned on the SlashFilmCast, as well.

I read a review from Brad Brevet at RopeofSilicon who mentioned a "Straw Dogs" vibe to the ending, which is more of the impression I got.
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I liked this movie quite a bit. Really hoping Javier Bardem gets some love from the Academy - he was brilliant. Easily one of the best (if not the best) performance I've seen all year.
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Brilliant? Far from. No Country For Old Men was his brilliant performance. This was almost a spoof of it, it seemed. I was surprised his character didn't have more as a villain, especially after his introduction coming down that elevator and slowly walking though what looked like a server farm. And after he tells Bond how he had the power to do all kinds of large scale damage at the touch of a button, then just ends up in some old school chases. Just seemed like they were going to have him do so much more than what we saw.
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Not to bring up the Batman comparisons again, but I thought Bardem's Silva was a far more memorable villain than Bane was in TDKR.
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Brilliant? Far from. No Country For Old Men was his brilliant performance. This was almost a spoof of it, it seemed. I was surprised his character didn't have more as a villain, especially after his introduction coming down that elevator and slowly walking though what looked like a server farm. And after he tells Bond how he had the power to do all kinds of large scale damage at the touch of a button, then just ends up in some old school chases. Just seemed like they were going to have him do so much more than what we saw.
Yes - in terms of the performance itself - I thought he was brilliant. Bardem stole the show every time he was on screen.

Sure there may be narrative flaws with his character, but that is not an acting issue.
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Bardeen wouldn't be receiving half of the accolades he's getting from the critics and from ppl here had he played a heterosexual and not a homo. He was quite good but nothing special.
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No, Fiennes is perfect. But they should have gotten Connery to play the Albert Finney role.
Until I got home I could have almost sworn it was Dalton playing that roll until I looked it up. Guess I was looking for another wink to the franchise. Either way I will agree it is a top 5 Bond move. Time to do another Bond Marathon.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies View Post
Brilliant? Far from. No Country For Old Men was his brilliant performance. This was almost a spoof of it, it seemed. I was surprised his character didn't have more as a villain, especially after his introduction coming down that elevator and slowly walking though what looked like a server farm. And after he tells Bond how he had the power to do all kinds of large scale damage at the touch of a button, then just ends up in some old school chases. Just seemed like they were going to have him do so much more than what we saw.
That's one of several issues I have with the film. Silva was a worthless character. They desperately tried to add as many quirks to the character as possible in order to mask how incredibly bland and non-threatening he really was. It clearly worked, however, given how many people gush over the character.

I actually cringed at the deformity reveal. Not because it was frightening in any way (the CGI was too laughably bad for that) but because it's utterly ridiculous that wouldn't show up in a full cavity inspection. And had it turned up (which it would), there's no way in hell they'd let him keep the dentures/facial brace on. That's too much of a potential suicide risk.

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Bardeen wouldn't be receiving half of the accolades he's getting from the critics and from ppl here had he played a heterosexual and not a homo. He was quite good but nothing special.
As performed, he was a great creepy guy. In no way menacing but he was creepy and weird. As for coming onto Craig, I do agree people are making too big a deal out of it. But, since it seemed to work, he should thank Craig since Craig has been pushing for a while for Bond getting some man-on-man action. I took the "you're assuming you're my first" as an allusion to Craig's previous comments to the effect.
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Fucking Apple. I meant Bardem not Bardeen.
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I really enjoyed the movie but the 2nd half didn't feel much like a Bond film to me. Up until when they first caught Silva, I thought it was perfect. After that, it turned more into a cookie-cutter revenge action flick. Maybe it was because there was no big threat to the world? There didn't seem to be much of a sense of urgency since Silva was only after M.

The DB5 was nice to see but I agree that it was out of place. If it wasn't something from Q, why would he have a car with machine guns and an ejector seat? Plus, M knew what the seat was when Bond made that joke about shooting her out.
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Originally Posted by trespoochies View Post
Brilliant? Far from. No Country For Old Men was his brilliant performance. This was almost a spoof of it, it seemed. I was surprised his character didn't have more as a villain, especially after his introduction coming down that elevator and slowly walking though what looked like a server farm. And after he tells Bond how he had the power to do all kinds of large scale damage at the touch of a button, then just ends up in some old school chases. Just seemed like they were going to have him do so much more than what we saw.
That's kind how I felt.
So all it seemed what this villain was about was getting revenge on a certain person. But his performance was 4 star if you compare him to other Bond villains only.
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Not to bring up the Batman comparisons again, but I thought Bardem's Silva was a far more memorable villain than Bane was in TDKR.
When the Bond villain first appears the one thing that struck me was that he looked like the 60's Batman t.v. Joker. If you just replace him with the right colors I mean. The hairstyle was dead on.
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I saw this last night. After the last week or so of reviews hyping this as great, I came away slightly disappointed. Granted, I was expecting it to absolutely blow my mind, so I guess it's my own fault.

I really enjoyed the first half of the movie. The opening was fun and I loved the sequences in Shanghai and Macau. Silva's introduction was also a highlight. The whole first half really reminded me of an old school Bond with it's slower pacing and the way Bond followed the villains' trail from locale to locale. After
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is when it kind of broke down for me. The finale, in particular, was certainly unlike any thing we've seen in a Bond before, but it just didn't click for me. In typical internet fshion here's a list of problems I had:

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1. Bond's "death" really didn't add much to the story. Other than providing a link with Silva (both having been "betrayed" by M), there wasn't much payoff and thus it felt wasted to me. It reminded me of You Only Live Twice in that regard. Ok, so Bond came back and wasn't physically up to snuff, but he didn't have to die for them to go down that route. And for that matter, it seemed like a strange choice to play up the idea that Bond is old and outdated when just 2 movies ago we saw Bond on his first mission. I actually thought Die Another Day, of all films, handled similar material better (which made that film all the more disappointing when it went off the rails after about 45 minutes).

2. What exactly was Silva's plan? I'm on board up until the point where he gets captured (on purpose?). Then we see Q working to decode his computer program (or whatever it was) and it's *gasp* a map of the London underground. So Silva's master plan was to get captured, then use his knowledge of underground tunnels to escape, so he could walk into the hearing and shoot M? And reagarding the hearing, I get that Silva was trying to humiliate and discredit M, but he didn't even let that part play itself out. Why go to the trouble if the end result was just to walk up to her and shoot her? For that matter, why was getting captured part of the plan? So he could taunt M and Bond?

3. What exactly was Bond's plan? I understand wanting to dictate the terms of the final showdown with Silva, but his solution seemed pretty half baked. And if Q and company were following the action back at headquarters, why not just send in the cavalry after Silva shows up at Skyfall? Was Silva that connected on the inside that literally no one could be trusted? I don't think we really saw anything that would suggest that.

4. The reveals about Bond's past ultimately meant nothing. I can honestly say that I've never given Bond's childhood more than a passing thought. I'm not saying I'm against the idea of introducing those elements, I just don't think they added any extra weight to the narrative. It just seemed like something the writers tacked on at the end in the hopes of adding some depth to Bond's character. But this was really M's story from the beginning, so it fell flat for me.

5. I don't get all the excitement for the DB5. I understand it's the first time it was used as a weapon since Thunderball, but by my count, this was it's 4th appearance in the last 7 movies in the series. How many times am I supposed to be suprised/get excited when it shows up?



All of the above might make it sound like I hated this movie, but that's far from the truth. It had a lot of great moments (especially the first half) and it was definitely the most stylish photography the series has ever seen. I certainly liked it better than Quantum of Solace, but to me Casino Royale (which I adore despite some of it's flaws) is still Craig's best. I'm not sure where'd I'd rank it in the overall series because the Craig films in general just feel like a different beast. Whether or not I think they succeed, they are much more ambitious when it comes to trying to add depth and emotional weight to the series outside of maybe OHMSS. I will say that I'm very much looking forward to the next one now that the "reboot" phase is seemingly over.
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That's one of several issues I have with the film. Silva was a worthless character. They desperately tried to add as many quirks to the character as possible in order to mask how incredibly bland and non-threatening he really was. It clearly worked, however, given how many people gush over the character.

I actually cringed at the deformity reveal. Not because it was frightening in any way (the CGI was too laughably bad for that) but because it's utterly ridiculous that wouldn't show up in a full cavity inspection. And had it turned up (which it would), there's no way in hell they'd let him keep the dentures/facial brace on. That's too much of a potential suicide risk.



As performed, he was a great creepy guy. In no way menacing but he was creepy and weird. As for coming onto Craig, I do agree people are making too big a deal out of it. But, since it seemed to work, he should thank Craig since Craig has been pushing for a while for Bond getting some man-on-man action. I took the "you're assuming you're my first" as an allusion to Craig's previous comments to the effect.


Creepy and weird = Menacing.
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Bardeen wouldn't be receiving half of the accolades he's getting from the critics and from ppl here had he played a heterosexual and not a homo. He was quite good but nothing special.
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