Shazam

Yes, they were put into a canon.

BrewCrew

Nope, the cannon books say otherwise.

rocket1312

Whether they were canon or not is kind of irrelevant since I don't think they really have anything to do with the other films in any way other than the fact that they star the Ewoks.

Rob V

What's up with some (maybe all) these Stormtroopers coming across as elite assassins? They partake in lightsaber battles now??? I'm guessing that all of them can at least hit the broad side of a barn with their blasters.

dex14

Those films apparently took place before RoTJ.

JeremyM

Did they? Wasn't Wicket talking in one of them? And why were they trying to barbeque Luke and company when they were buddied up with a bunch of humans earlier? Evil little things!

Solid Snake

I guess the First Order really really gave a damn about quality control. These guys may actually hit what they're aiming at. ON PURPOSE!

Abob Teff

So that's why they call him Goldenrod.

Dr. DVD

I noticed something similar with the PT in terms of age groups. Myself and a lot of friends who went to see TPM were in early grade school when ROTJ was released. While we might have been in a state of denial at the time, I remember us all liking TPM initially. It wasn't until later viewings (and Red Letter Media ) that we came to the conclusion :" Yeah, these pretty much sucked." However, most people I knew in their early to mid-30s who were adolescents when the OT was released seemed to despise the PT from the get go. They also didn't care much for ROTJ as we young'uns did.

Defiant1

George Lucas seems to be throwing some shade at TFA in his "review". I wonder if he's feeling butthurt now that he no longer has any say in the franchise.

stvn1974

van der graaf

The Lucas quote going around:



What a myopic douche.

brayzie

He really seems out of touch or in denial. Out of ALL the criticisms made by Star Wars fans and general film goers about the wooden performances, horrendous dialogue, weak story, and over reliance on CGI in the prequels I never heard people complain their weren't enough spaceships.

It's like he's speaking down to people.

joe_b

George acts like making a film fans actually might enjoy is catering to the lowest common denominator. I hate to say this (because without him there would be no Star Wars) but I hope TFA breaks every record and is a critical darling so Lucas can eat his heart out.

He's come across as a poor sport with resentment for the fanbase throughout the lead-up to this movie. If anybody was guilty of cramming in needless fan service (Yoda and Chewie were buddies on Kashyyyk?) it's Lucas. Remember that deleted scene where little Ani gets in a street fight with young Greedo? How dumb was that shit?

Mike86

I think it must eat at him to know that fanboys are likely going to love this film more than any of the entries from the Prequel Trilogy and that the film was done in a way that deviates from his vision. He won't outright say that most likely but he comes across as almost somewhat resentful of giving the fans what they want to see and only wants people to enjoy things the way he presents them. Just like with the alterations to the Original Trilogy and being so damn stubborn about putting them out in their original forms.

brayzie

Yeah, it seems like he was trying to write for fanboys, thinking they wanted to see all these dots connected. Not to mention giving the fans what they wanted by inserting Boba Fett in A New Hope, and then pretty much having another Boba Fett, Jango, in the prequels. He's full of it.

About the Ewoks movies, I saw the second one on TV as a kid and thought it was awesome. Saw it later and it doesn't feel like it exists in the same universe as the films.

But damn, how can he be resentful when he treated ROTJ and the prequels as a merchandising come up and not as a somewhat serious series of films, just to make $$$$$$? He started making story decisions based on how it affected toy merchandise.

I can sympathize with that though. Usually these artists are never satisfied with a finished work but have to turn it eventually in. If given the chance they want to keep further refining it, never completely satisfied, always finding a flaw to correct. The reason why most artists don't Special Edition there work is because they have other work they want to get done. Lucas hasn't done anything besides Star Wars, not including writing Indy's Crystal Skull adventure.

But yeah, I still don't get why he never wanted to give people the option of owning both versions on home media? Most big movies that are offered in boxed sets and what not, usually have Theatrical and Director's Cut available, like Blade Runner, Aliens Collector's Editions, etc.

DaveyJoe

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Josh-da-man

That's deliciously passive-aggressive.

Supermallet

I think you're selling him very short. He was incredibly hands on with all the Indy films, plus Willow, ILM, and THX, and lots of other major projects that helped change the face of cinema. I know the temptation is to trash him because the prequels turned out so badly and he's mutilated the OT, but let's give credit where credit is due.

The irony of course is that if Lucas were the caretaker of any other filmmaker's legacy, he'd make sure that their work were preserved in the best possible condition, in their original form. It's only his own work that he thinks should be shown in whatever form took his whimsy the last time it was released on home video.

brayzie

I was too general. I meant with regards to film making, particularly directing and thinking more from that period when Indiana Jones ended (Last Crusade) to when the prequels started. Other directors move on to their next film but he stopped directing to handle the Star Wars merchandise-and-related-products empire, in addition to building up his other companies that you mentioned.

It seems to me he never found his next Star Wars (Indiana Jones films being shared with Spielberg) so just went back retooling it, and retooling it so that it would be perfect.

On a side note I really liked Willow.

joe_b

Snoke's appearance revealed?


Sunday's press conference:

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JoeySeven

I have not read any info or spoilers on Star Wars: The Force Awakens for about A month.
did not read any post in this thread.Want to to be surprise and enjoy the new Star Wars movie.

Have not been to the theater since the Drive-in in Dallas,Oregon over the last summer.Really enjoyed the time spent with my family their.

Looks like it is starting showing on at my local theater on Thursday, December 17.
12 showings with most being in 3-D.
Might go to either the 11pm or midnight showing.I live in a fairly small town,and most people are
home in bed around 9pm.But not me.

Shannon Nutt

I think it's George's form of self-therapy. It's like when a girl ditches you and winds up with someone better looking and with more money.

Sean O'Hara

"My heart was beating. It's still beating now."

Well that's great. I'm glad you're not a zombie. But how was the movie?

"Eh. Kinda sucked."

candyrocket786

Interesting. ..