rocketsauce

At this point of time within the canon they are not all clones. IIRC it's said about 30% clones, but I could be off on that.

Obey The D

None of them are clones. It was mentioned in the movie.

Obi-Wanma

They're not clones. They weren't clones in the OT. They were only clones in the prequels. That is canon.

rocketsauce

Apparently I was off on that. Way off.

Abob Teff

Actually it is much worse ... They are female clones.

Obey The D

Come to think of it, the entire movie was a clone of A New Hope.

rocketsauce

It's a dystopian look at a possible future where the feminazis and SJW's rule our worlds.

Bluelitespecial

I just got home from the movie and it was fine. Rey and Finn were both good characters. Something about it didnt quite feel like Star Wars, and it did feel like a copy of a New Hope. I will see it again next time in 3d.

Solid Snake

Whoa now. I hear it wasn't worth it for the 3D. So maybe save some money on that.

Mondo Kane

The 3-D was very good in spots. The aerial shots of following Xs & Ties from behind looked great, but they weren't held as long as they should have been.

And I don't remember if it was this thread or the reviews thread, but there's a lingering frontal shot of a Star Destroyer that does indeed look like it was sticking out of the screen.

joe_b

I'm listening to the soundtrack right now. Sad to say it, but it feels like Williams phoned most of this score in. None of the new themes are particularly stirring or memorable.

Also, J.J. shared some new details about Rey's vision sequence with Entertainment Weekly. They had Ewan McGregor record a new line of dialogue that played over that scene. I'll have to listen for this when I see the film again:


He also explains what suddenly woke up Artoo.

Brack

I agree, there were no complete themes on the soundtrack at all. I guess Rey's theme is okay, but it is nothing to brag about. This is the only strength the PT has over TFA. Duel of the Fates from TPM, Across the Stars (Love Theme from AOTC), and even Battle of the Heroes or Anakin's betrayal in ROTS had more memorable themes than TFA. I'm not saying the score was bad, but it was a lot of little themes that sounded appropriate for their scenes, but weren't like you said, memorable. I need to see TFA again, because I didn't find the score being lackluster while watching.

And as far as that spoiler, they used both Alex Guinness (the first line in a previous SW film where he said "afraid") and Ewan McGregor did the rest, according to an EW interview with JJ.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/20...-force-awakens

asianxcore

There is a great deal on tickets via Fandango today, so I bought a pair of tickets to see it for the fourth time.

This time taking one of my best friends to see it in (true) IMAX 3-D

I assumed

joe_b

Here's some deleted scene info (originally reported in August of last year). Yet another "homage" to A New Hope:

Well, that exact scene is in the novelization.

Shannon Nutt

Easily the "worst" - or the most unremarkable - Star Wars score Williams has composed. Here's one area where prequel lovers can say their movies were better.

This new Star Wars score may actually be WORSE than Williams' score for INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL...and that's saying a lot.

coli

I'm suprised at how many kids/teenagers love this movie. I talked to my nephews (they range from 10 to 16) and all of them and their friends love the movie. None of them saw any PT movies in the theater so this is their first experience, and alot of them are saying they really feel this trilogy is their trilogy and the OT is our trilogy.

And the PT is no one's generation.


The score was a bit underwhelming as there is usually one theme that is memorable like Duel of Fates was to the terrible TPM movie. I wonder if JJ pushed a more subtle score so it doesn't define the movie, where Lucas always wanted the music to define each scene as he looked at it more as a space opera. I haven't seen much of JJ's previous movies, but are all his scores more subtle like TFA?

Solid Snake

Not really. They're pretty much right there w/ everything else. It doesn't hide.

Lord Zarak

I took a 16yo to see TFA. His primary exposure to the SW universe has been the Clone Wars series. He's seen the PT trilogy once, and only aware of the OT via the Family Guy parodies. He loved TFA and now wants to see the OT to get Luke's story.

OldBoy

i see 245!

Michael Corvin

Couldn't disagree more. I think it was the best score Williams has done SINCE "Duel of the Fates." Outside of that the prequel scores were extremely forgettable, almost like he phoned them in.

joe_b

Wow, I feel the exact opposite. If anything, the scores were the strongest part of the prequels. I consider "Across the Stars" to be a very memorable theme. Then there's the intense, drum driven music from the Coruscant speeder chase (with a hint of electric guitar)... the haunting female vocals when Dooku meets Sidious in the hanger bay. Just rich, beautiful stuff -- and that's only what I recall off the top of my head.

So far, "The Jedi Steps" is the highlight from the TFA soundtrack for me. Even that track is very simple and subdued.

bunkaroo

Have to agree here. I love the prequel scores almost as much as the OT scores. So many great themes.

I think the lacking score for TFA maybe be why some people feel the film is a little "off". The score is really a huge part of the Star Wars feel - more so than in most films IMO.

dex14

JTH182

I just went back and read the first couple pages of this thread. There's some pretty funny comments considering the movie is out and crushing it, especially the posts by Terrell, lol

bdshort

Good call man!