Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I didn't care for the beginning of the movie but enjoyed it once it settled into its plotline.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

After seeing this and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter... I really want me a Blunderbuss.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

http://www.therpf.com/f13/looper-blu...ld-out-161377/

I'm in the first run.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

So, was thinking about this one today...



Am I missing some other variable here?

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

You'd be right. It's fucked up in that plot part. Something had to make the big bad guy. So now we're talking alternate realities.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

That's the loop.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

So, which event happened first then?

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Which movie is this? I recognize The Matrix and Inception from the other two, so I'm guessing that one is a movie also.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I think you are going to need some straws.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

In Time

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Thanks, sounds interesting :)

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

If you like Timberlake and like having pun you'll enjoy it.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Am watching the Blu-ray as I type this and will reiterate that Abe is not Kid Blue. It's clear as fucking day.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Agreed. Nothing at all leads the audience to believe this.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I watched it today and remembered this thread and some of the earlier postings and how some members kept on saying that they were the same person, blah, blah, blah.


I done told y'all.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I was right there with ya.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I watched it again and it still feels like they're alluding to some sort of relationship between the two.

Although Rian Johnson flat out said they're not the same person, but some of the scenes to still seem to point to some other more personal connection.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

You can even watch the deleted scenes, which were about 80% about Kid Blue, and there's nothing there.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Blah, blah, blah, I have no fucking imagination so Kid Blue isn't Abe. Also, spoonfeed me everything.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

Imagine it all you want, but the facts are there and you'd be wrong.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

The facts are there in the movie? List them. Now, we're talking facts here in the movie. Not something Rian Johnson said in a talk show or deleted scenes. Those are deleted. A fact would be something like Abe saying I am not Kid Blue or something to that effect. Okay, go!

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

How about continuity? I'm not gonna go through the earlier threads where I talked about how Abe had NO residual injuries from Kid Blue. Even when Abe smashed his fucking hand with the hammer - if they were the same person then Abe would have crippled himself on the spot. Some folks on here, maybe you were one of them, said that since Abe came from the future maybe he had himself heeled from the limp and broken hand at some point. You know, because in the future they can cure shit like that.

In watching the Blu-ray yesterday - 5 minutes after Abe smashes Blue's hand with the hammer, we have the scene of Emily Blunt's character shooting young Joe with the rock salt and right on cue we have old Joe walking and then stopping and he pulls his shirt down a bit to reveal the rock salt scarring that was not there seconds before. He felt the fucking shotgun blast when young Joe was hit. It's as clear as day and CONFIRMS that Abe and Blue are not the same person, because you cannot apply the same rules to both Joes (since they're the same person) and not have them apply to Abe and Blue (if they were the same person).


And not to fucking mention what they had already established with Paul Dano's character. They chopped him (young Dano) up and old Paul Dano felt the effects instantly.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

I think you might be wrong: Old Joe didn't feel the shotgun blast, he remembered it. It's already established in the film that Old Joe remembers everything that happens to Young Joe, but he doesn't remember it until it happens to Young Joe. So after Young Joe gets shot with the shotgun, Old Joe "remembers" seconds later the incident, and checks himself for the "new" scars. Note that when Young Joe carved the waitress's name into his arm, Old Joe didn't feel the pain from the carving, but only noticed the scar. He even casually comments to Young Joe that the carved name "must hurt" when they sit down for their chat.

So the fact that Abe didn't feel Blue's injury isn't a sign that Abe isn't Blue. It's possible that Abe remembered the injury the moment after doing it Blue.

That said, the possibility that Kid Blue is a young Abe isn't really confirmed or denied by the film, so there's no correct answer. It just depends on your interpretation.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

:lol: It was denied by the director/writer of the film. I'd say that is the correct answer.

Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) — The Reviews Thread
 

The director isn't the sole arbiter of what a film means. Regardless of what Rian Johnson intended, the film suggests it as a possibility, and doesn't explicitly deny it.

Rian Johnson's own words:
http://screencrush.com/rian-johnson-...ansformations/