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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Seemed like a pretty well crafted film, but sadly the central paradox
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 11405042)
Then explain Dano's old/young self in the same time period. They're hurting Dano right then and there, so his old self is going through the trauma right then and there. Abe breaks the kid's hand right then and there, so why didn't Abe flinch?
Unless I hear it from Johnson, then there's no way the Kid Blue was Abe. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
I thought so too during the film but there was never anything shown that proved it or disproved it. There's a reason that Kid Blue desperately wants to be appreciated,but we're never told why.
At the same time, it seems pretty stupid for the guy running the entire operation to be sending himself out into dangerous situations. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by auto
(Post 11405119)
The things they were doing to young Dano were permanent, not something that would heal over time. I'm not sure I can explain this better but it seems heavily implied that Kid Blue was Abe. They just don't beat you over the head with it. :shrug:
And yeah, it seemed to me like only permanent damage inflicted on the younger versions affects the old. In the case of Dano's older self, I thought it was just shock at seeing what was happening, not necessarily the pain. Willis says later that as things start happening to his younger self, his head hurts because the memories start coming to him. I don't think the physical damage is felt. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by auto
(Post 11405119)
The things they were doing to young Dano were permanent, not something that would heal over time. I'm not sure I can explain this better but it seems heavily implied that Kid Blue was Abe. They just don't beat you over the head with it. :shrug:
Limps don't heal. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Are you sure about that...in the future!!??
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by auto
(Post 11405157)
Are you sure about that...in the future!!??
Then why is Kid Blue walking with one? If Abe had gotten it fixed, then Blue would not have it. He would definitely not have it in his presence - when they're both in the same room. There are several scenes with them talking and being in the same room and Abe remains normal, while Blue is a mess. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Dude, you're killing me.
1. Kid Blue gets limp 2. Kid Blue grows up and has limp fixed - by magic future doctors 3. Kid Blue realizes Kid Blue is a terrible name and reverts back to his given name Abe 4. Abe Blue is sent back in time by evil future mobsters 5. Abe Blue meets Kid Blue and is annoyed at what a dumbass he was 6. Abe Blue tries to teach Kid Blue to be a cool mobster 7. Abe Blue fails at this repeatedly and fucks with Kid Blue BUT... 8. Abe Blue keeps Kid Blue around despite multiple fuckups since they are the same person |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
To clarify, this movie takes pace between 1 and 2 and 6 and 8.
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
The little boy who played Cid was fucking fantastic. It's a pretty bold move to hinge an entire movie on the performance of a five-year-old.
Also, I guess I spoiler this: Spoiler:
Also, nice touch with the: Spoiler:
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 11405042)
Then explain Dano's old/young self in the same time period. They're hurting Dano right then and there, so his old self is going through the trauma right then and there. Abe breaks the kid's hand right then and there, so why didn't Abe flinch?
Unless I hear it from Johnson, then there's no way the Kid Blue was Abe. Thought Abe and the kid were each other pretty much from the start. I guess I never noticed the limp on the kid. A broken hand will heal, a shattered hand is more of a stretch to heal but the point still stands. There would be no point in flinching from a broken hand you received 30 years ago. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Eh. Competent but not particularly imaginative. Not offensively bad but I dunno if I would call it very good either. Twelve Monkeys puts it to shame.
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
(Post 11405042)
Then explain Dano's old/young self in the same time period. They're hurting Dano right then and there, so his old self is going through the trauma right then and there. Abe breaks the kid's hand right then and there, so why didn't Abe flinch?
Unless I hear it from Johnson, then there's no way the Kid Blue was Abe. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Groucho
(Post 11405329)
The little boy who played Cid was fucking fantastic.
Originally Posted by Groucho
(Post 11405329)
Also, nice touch with the:
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by The Bus
(Post 11405553)
What's this again? Spoiler:
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by auto
(Post 11405177)
Dude, you're killing me.
1. Kid Blue gets limp 2. Kid Blue grows up and has limp fixed - by magic future doctors 3. Kid Blue realizes Kid Blue is a terrible name and reverts back to his given name Abe 4. Abe Blue is sent back in time by evil future mobsters 5. Abe Blue meets Kid Blue and is annoyed at what a dumbass he was 6. Abe Blue tries to teach Kid Blue to be a cool mobster 7. Abe Blue fails at this repeatedly and fucks with Kid Blue BUT... 8. Abe Blue keeps Kid Blue around despite multiple fuckups since they are the same person |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Okay, what was
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Couple that with another throwaway line:
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The implication is that: Spoiler:
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
(Post 11405674)
Okay, what was
Spoiler:
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I'm not really how much we're supposed to spoiler tag in here. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
What was the meaning of when we saw him shoot Bruce Willis with the hood on (after the actual meeting/knocking out)? Was that him just hoping for a normal "loop closing"?
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by Groucho
(Post 11405677)
Couple that with another throwaway line:
Spoiler:
The implication is that: Spoiler:
Originally Posted by Timber
(Post 11405684)
Spoiler:
I'm not really how much we're supposed to spoiler tag in here. I still wish we could have gotten a glimpse of that future to make the Rainmaker a little more haunting.
Originally Posted by bluetoast
(Post 11406305)
What was the meaning of when we saw him shoot Bruce Willis with the hood on (after the actual meeting/knocking out)? Was that him just hoping for a normal "loop closing"?
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Originally Posted by bluetoast
(Post 11406305)
What was the meaning of when we saw him shoot Bruce Willis with the hood on (after the actual meeting/knocking out)? Was that him just hoping for a normal "loop closing"?
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
There is a reason they said not to think too hard about time travel a couple of times in the movie. It's impossible for it to hold up under even the slightest question.
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Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
http://www.fastcocreate.com/1681674/...e-travel-movie
Nice article about the movie with responses from Rian Johnson about some of the time travel stuff. |
Re: Looper (Johnson, 2012) The Reviews Thread
Ah I get it now, didn't realize it was from "old Bruce"'s POV during that scene. Thanks Dr. DVD and Fumanstan.
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