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Jules Winfield 08-26-12 11:55 AM

Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroopers?
 
There always seems to be a thread on the front page here asking which of these two is the best. I wanna see which of these two is the worst. These two actors were asked to headline their respective movies:Attack of the Clones and Starship Troopers but both are just not very good at all. At various points, they're asked to bring an intensity or maybe to woo their leading ladies. I would laugh at both of their "mean" faces and if I were a woman, I'm not sure which one I'd let cry in my arms while I waited for a real man. So, with that said, who do you think is the worst?

Personally, I think Hayden is worse. It can be argued that Casper is supposed to be bad and his badness fits the whole aesthetic of the movie. I can't help but break into a sly smile when Casper says "Kill them all!" Hayden makes me groan but not in a good way plus he's shown he can be good in stuff like Shattered Glass. Also, Darth Vader is iconic and casting a pretty boy was a wrong move. I'm not worried when he turns to the dark side, I don't care.

I'm curious what everyone else thinks. I realize its not always the actors' fault if a part is written shittily or maybe the director requested the actor play it a certain way. I just wanted to pick on them I guess. I don't know. Shit.

Solid Snake 08-26-12 11:57 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11360422)
There always seems to be a thread on the front page here asking which of these two is the best. I wanna see which of these two is the worst. These two actors were asked to headline their respective movies:Attack of the Clones and Starship Troopers but both are just not very good at all. At various points, they're asked to bring an intensity or maybe to woo their leading ladies. I would laugh at both of their "mean" faces and if I were a woman, I'm not sure which one I'd let cry in my arms while I waited for a real man. So, with that said, who do you think is the worst?

Personally, I think Hayden is worse. It can be argued that Casper is supposed to be bad and his badness fits the whole aesthetic of the movie. I can't help but break into a sly smile when Casper says "Kill them all!" Hayden makes me groan but not in a good way plus he's shown he can be good in stuff like Shattered Glass. Also, Darth Vader is iconic and casting a pretty boy was a wrong move. I'm not worried when he turns to the dark side, I don't care.

I'm curious what everyone else thinks. I realize its not always the actors' fault if a part is written shittily or maybe the director requested the actor play it a certain way. I just wanted to pick on them I guess. I don't know. Shit.

I'm calling bullshit on this.

Jules Winfield 08-26-12 11:59 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11360425)
I'm calling bullshit on this.

Okay. I have no evidence to back up my claim so I call bullshit on myself also.

Why So Blu? 08-26-12 12:00 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Casper is much cooler.

Solid Snake 08-26-12 12:00 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Fucker.

back on topic:

I know HC has been in other movies I've heard of..never even knew Starship Troopers guy's name. So.....I'm going w/ Starship Trooper guy.

stvn1974 08-26-12 01:00 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Does Casper's character in Starship Troopers hate sand? Because Anakin hates sand so much that Hayden gives the single worst acting in any scene in the history of motion pictures.

JumpCutz 08-26-12 01:03 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Eli Wallach

Hokeyboy 08-26-12 01:28 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Beth

RagingBull80 08-26-12 01:39 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
De Niro, hands down.

Supermallet 08-26-12 01:46 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
The kids in Starship Troopers are meant to be flat and jingoistic. Anakin Skywalker was supposed to be nuanced. Christensen loses.

fumanstan 08-26-12 02:05 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Fuck.

I picked Hayden. I didn't have any issues with Casper, his performance fit the movie.

PenguinJoe 08-26-12 03:45 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Speaking of which apparently Casper has been asked to do dancing with the stars.

GoldenJCJ 08-26-12 07:08 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 

Originally Posted by PenguinJoe (Post 11360628)
Speaking of which apparently Casper has been asked to do dancing with the stars.

I guess all that Python money must have run out. The Syfy Channel just doesn't pay like it used to.

Dr. DVD 08-26-12 07:16 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Hayden, no question IMO. Casper had a bit more of a grasp on what he was doing and what kind of movie he was making.

Mr. Flix 08-26-12 07:48 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Of these two performances, Christenson's is worse, even though he's overall a better actor than Van Dien. (See: Shattered Glass)

onebyone 08-26-12 07:50 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
I wouldn't change a thing about Caper Van Dien's performance in Starship Troopers. I love that movie as is.

FRwL 08-26-12 07:52 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
The twikoff option is like a delicious treat and I love it being a dvdtalk tradition.

Nick Danger 08-26-12 09:01 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
The acting in Starship Troopers was supposed to be flat. It's a fascist recruitment movie.

AOTC could have been better.

yoshimi 08-26-12 10:30 PM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
I wonder if Brando, Olivier or Anthony Hopkins could pull off some of the dialogue that Hayden Christenson had to work with in AOTC?

Nick Danger 08-27-12 09:23 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Lots of actors can handle bad dialogue. Take a look at 1960s adventure television programs. Lloyd Bridges, Robert Stack, and Lorne Greene could make the exposition sound good and then carry you until the next action sequence. Lucas didn't hired someone with that skill.

stingermck 08-27-12 09:28 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
I liked Casper, and really thought he would do well in action after Startship. Then Tarzan happened.

Oh yeah, Hayden.

rexinnih 08-27-12 09:39 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Hayden.

Double_Oh_7 08-27-12 10:12 AM

Re: Worst Lead Actor? Hayden Christenson in AOTC vs. Casper VanDien in StarshipTroop
 
Easy... Hayden.


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