Dragon Tattoo

Spoken like a true old fart.

bluetoast

The Amazing Spider-Man is not some sacred text. But the difference is, people who do follow/read sacred texts also change/update their own views as time goes on.

But if you update an element from this comic book from the 60s just a little bit, fuck no, that's not happening. Skateboarding? Didn't exist in the 60's! Hoodies? Nope, button down shirt and sweater vest only!

Hey, in this new movie Spider-Man didn't deliver three minutes worth of expository dialogue every time he is re-introduced on screen, where are the complaints about that?

And for those complaints about the Ultimate Universe: Let's not forget that Raimi's movies had organic web shooters, and this movie did not.

Obi-Wanma

Even Ultimate Spider-Man has mechanical web-shooters.

B5Erik

The one thing my generation never did as teenagers was to cop the, "We've got it tougher than anyone ever has," thing. We knew we had it good. We had perspective - we were damned glad NOT to have grown up during the Depression or during World War II. We weren't a bunch of whiners constantly complaining about how bad things were and how much tougher life was for us than for any previous generation. I couldn't relate to the kids from the 90's because of that attitude that so many of them copped. And it persists to this day with many in the current generation.

I just don't want my movies catering to that crowd. Sorry.


Actually, the economy now is about the same as it was in 2002. You seem to have forgotten the post 9/11 recession. It was pretty bad in 2002.


If I were the only person complaining about the changes to Peter and the other multiple flaws in the movie I'd buy into your comments. But I'm not. Not even close - a lot of people are making the same types of comments.


No, only because Nick Fury in real life can't be a World War II vet. And Samuel L. Jackson did a great job as Fury, so I've got no complaints. His personality isn't that different from the Fury of the comics.

And none of the other Avengers' personalities are all that different from the characters as originally conceived in the 60's.

It may be, and I never said the Ultimate universe sucks. I just said it's different, it's not canon, and I'm not interested in it. It was created for teenagers when I was already an adult.

That may be. I don't care about more recent stories - comics lost that, "Fun," factor for me years ago. I still enjoy reading through a classic 60's or 70's comic every now and then, but the stuff from the 90's forward got a little too serious at times and lost that fun factor.

OK, it's canon for an alternate universe. Whoop-de-fucking-doo! And yet another crossover to boost sales? There's a shock. That was one of the things that got me to stop buying comics in the first place. Stories that crossed over to 4 different titles for the same character. It got expensive.


Ben Reilly wasn't Peter. He was always trying to hide that he looked like Peter, which is where that hoodie came from. He wasn't wearing it because he liked the style or something. He was portrayed as being very different from Peter because of what happened to him.

And that clone saga and the way it played out was another reason why I stopped buying/reading comics. They basically said that everything that Peter learned about himself in ASM 150 was worthless and null & void. At that point I saw that there was nothing that they wouldn't undo, no matter how important to the character. It went from being about great storytelling to being about sales.

Most people don't go to see a Spider-Man movie to see real life. It's supposed to be escapism. It's supposed to reflect a more innocent look at life.

Those original comics from the 60's may be dated becuse of the style of clothes and because of the simplicity of the characters & stories, but they're still classics and are more enjoyable/fun to read than many of the Spider-Man stories of the 90's and 00's.

Raimi's movies were more fun and captured that innocence, so they made for better escapist fare. And THAT is why they did better at the box office. Spider-Man is supposed to be fun. And Peter isn't some emo skateboarder, either. He's a near genius nerd. Or he's supposed to be, anyway.

bluetoast

Oh yeah I forgot about that, he used his dad's research for part of it right? I must have confused it with the ASM universe adapting organic for a while.

Hokeyboy

So much vag-repellent in the last dozen posts...

Tarantino

AKA, just being on DVDTalk.

clckworang

Some of the things that people are complaining about, like Peter Parker wearing a hoodie and skateboarding, are beyond ridiculous. We have grown people trying to determine a comic book character's motivation for wearing a hoodie. Come on!

And yet meaningless fashion choices keep showing up in the debate.

dhmac

Even though I like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies (despite their flaws), I've never been much of a fan of Tobey Maguire in the lead role. Not sure why, but he didn't really strike me as Peter Parker.

I remember when Tobey Maguire held out for more money after the 1st film was a huge hit and so Sam Raimi threatened to replace him with Jake Gyllenhaal if he didn't return. I actually wish that recasting of the role had happened because I think Gyllenhaal would've been better than Maguire (at that time, that is, because now JG is too old for the part).

B5Erik

Get off my lawn!!!!

Dragon Tattoo

Pleased to see the poll is really close. Combine this with the love interest poll where Emma destroyed Dunst and this series looks to have a bright future ahead of it.

Now they just need to work on a stellar sequel.

IstvanTheHun

I preferred Toby. He gave us the nerdy Peter Parker we all loved.

James Garfield gives us a douchebag Peter Parker who skateboards to Coldplay. no thank you.

CaptainMarvel

To be fair, his presidential duties probably did detract from the role.

Dragon Tattoo

Try not speaking for everyone and maybe your "opinion" will have some merit.

IstvanTheHun

touche. lol

it was the rhetoric 3rd person "we". and I speak for those who cannot post...those disenfranchised from the internet...haha.

Manmademachine3

Andrew as in the first movie he was like the ditko/ultimate version while in the sequel he was the romita version.

taffer

Was that really worth a 2.5 year bump?

zero

Josh Keaton....

d2cheer

Yup...because I didn't vote the first time.

nando820

I just voted too hooray!

Brack

Tobey Maguire. He was brilliant in The Spoils of Babylon.

Dr. DVD

Some time having passed since I voted, I stand by Maguire being the better Parker, but I think Garfield was the better Spider-Man.

deepmilk

It's Maguire. Not even close.

Manmademachine3

If you read the comics peter never acted much like tobey

Solid Snake

Raimi grew up reading Spidey during a certain era of his. I think that shows very much in his depiction of that world as well, Parker included.