Dan

They made the right choice.

kefrank

Personally I think they made the right choice as well, though I think the execution of that choice was lacking.

Cardiff Giant11

Yep I agree, I meant they didn't have the balls because either way it wouldn't have been as big of a cash cow.

Groucho

It could have led directly into Alien by making the space jockey the same one the Nostromo finds, and still leave room for the sequel with Shaw and David's further adventures.

arminius

You're having a rational thought in a lindlelof universe. Does not work.

Why So Blu?

It's always been about $$$$ sign; Ridley knows this, and the producers know this. Shit, Ridley IS a producer and Lindeloff is an Executive Producer, so don't know what the big deal was. That's also why Ridley said that the artist portion of himself will release deleted scenes or an extended cut of his film for that very reason.

Dr. DVD

^ I have to say, it seems that Ridley has gotten to be more about the $$$ as his career has progressed. That might explain why some think there has been a drop in quality from him over the past twenty years.

Why So Blu?

Probably. He knows what's up, but plays coy. I understand. That's why they call it show BUSINESS and not show ART. I wouldn't go 20 years, but will say that it started with Gladiator, but stopped with Matchstick Men (which is an amazing film) and then resumed right after.

dsa_shea

I don't care what universe they claim this movie to be in it is still an alien prequel. They should have cut through all the bullshit and just went for it. It would be like having a movie about a daycare that has Jason Voorhees as one of their kids and say that it is not a Friday the 13th prequel.

golden_rod

It's fairly obvious that it is. No need for Scott & Co. to waste time stating the obvious when they already have a litany of audience complaints in other areas.

Abob Teff

I started to read the whole thread but gave up ... so forgive me if my thoughts have been stated by somebody else already ... and I'll stick with things I haven't really seen yet.

Why are you all convinced the Engineers were trying to destroy humanity? What if the awakened Engineer was trying to save humanity by attacking the group to PREVENT them from returning to Earth with the black goo? He wakes up, sees humans and thinks "Oh, hell naw!" and goes all Will Smith on their asses.

The "proto-xeno" many have referred to is NOT the first xenomorph ... look at the mural in the chamber and you will see what is quite obviously a queen xenomorph. For this reason, I tend to agree with the poster who theorized the black goo came from the xenomorph, not the other way around.

The birth of the so-called "proto-xeno" makes no sense ... the goo (and xenomorph DNA from the prior films) combines with the host DNA and takes on some of the host's characteristics. It was clearly spelled out early on the Engineers' "exo-skeleton" was NOT an exo-skeleton but rather a suit (space-suit, armor, whatever). So why would the "proto-xeno" take on characteristics of the suit, not the host? Even if the suit was bio-mechanical this makes no sense.

For this same reason, the squid-baby makes no sense. One of the biggest critiques of the AVP movies was the disregard for the life-cycle of the aliens ... the same applies here. I can live with the black goo creating the alien cobra (from the worms we saw in the footprint). But the black goo is then fed to a human who passes it along through his love-goo and it impregnates a human to make a squid ... WTF? There is NO logical path there ... The "classic" xeno is quite obviously insectile in nature. So where did the insect DNA come from in this cycle?

Why did Vickers go to an escape pod when her quarters were a self-contained ship that was jettisoned anyway?

That said, the squid and the cobra ... almost make the hybrid-alien in Alien 4 make sense with the pale skin ...

Abob Teff

It makes perfect sense when you look at it from another point of view ... the Captain of Prometheus was not playing the accordion, he was programming coordinates; then he poked Vickers (who was as hard as a hard-boiled egg) and they probably both saw stars ... I love the parallels in this film!

gmanca

I do think they made the right call of making an offshoot film in that universe because they can then touch on things while still keeping the audience in the dark with respect to the ending.

As has been said, it was the execution and the sub-plots, not the main idea, that's at fault.

So long as they give us a really cool sequel with David and Shaw, all will be ok. But the last thing I want to see is a retread sequel where a team finds the two and they go back.

dsa_shea

This is what I'm afraid of. It will either be little lady and her robot or a new crew basically repeating what we have already seen.

Why So Blu?

The squid/sperm that mutated into a giant facehugger that implanted the Engineer.

Why So Blu?

What if the suit was organic and part of the Engineer? That would make perfect sense. The beginning of the film is many thousands of years prior to what happened on LV 223, so even the Engineers evolved.

Solid Snake

this is cool.

islandclaws

Not really.

Solid Snake

welll..fuck

brayzie

I like them.

brayzie

Yeah. Playing in the same universe as ALIEN was a good idea in my opinion because Giger's inspired designs are so good that after all these years they still look intricate and disturbing. Also, you could still maintain the interest of ALIEN fans while still trying to do something new.

But they didn't. Ridley repeated some of the same scenes we've seen in the previous ALIEN films, especially from the first, and the studio felt they had to force a stronger connection to the franchise by adding the xenomorph at the ending.

Solid Snake

is that confirmed?

brayzie

No, that's just my assumption. I would find it hard to believe that someone who directed Blade Runner would intentionally want that kind of ending.

Solid Snake

Please remember his choices on Robin Hood's script. Let's not put Mr. Ridley Scott too high on that pedestal of his.

islandclaws

Yea, but he's done plenty of total shit since then. Well, I shouldn't say "total shit" since even a bad Ridley Scott film still at least looks marvelous.

I'll bet he was ambivalent over its inclusion, but the studio likely wanted it so he acquiesced without much of a fuss.