Anubis2005X

I will say this. There was no obnoxious 3D effect where an alien bursts out of someone's chest right into your face in 3D. Nor a face hugger jumping at the screen in 3D. Good on them for making the 3D subtle and simply providing depth...

Spiderbite

So how gross is the that I have heard about?

Para Para

Not gross at all.

PopcornTreeCt

Agreed. It's also my favorite scene in the movie, by far.

Anubis2005X

Kind of gross, but nothing too horrific...

Why So Blu?

Deleted Scene:

MoviePage

Is this true, though? I mean, sure, there's a lot of the usual fanboyism out there in the wilds of the internet, but none of the many valid points against this movie that've been brought up here and in other respectable places have much of anything to do with Alien or its universe. There's plenty to legitimately criticize the movie over without that, like how not a single thing in this movie's self-contained story makes an ounce of fucking sense.

Labor

^^ that shit always fascinates me.

So much effort gone into costume, make up, prosthetics, etc, etc, all for it to end up on the cutting room floor.

SterlingBen

He liked it. Not everything had to have grand meaning.

BambooLounge

Seems like you enjoyed it slightly more than I did, but in terms of the backlash being Alien fanboy driven, most of the critical backlash I've read (and taken part in earlier in this thread) has been about the film's horrible script in terms of its wild shifts in tone and characterizations (the geologist and biologist).

As for the whole "Why did David put that in the drink?" issue, I'm with you there. I thought that one was pretty obvious, unless I am missing some sort of android rule of the Alien universe. David was simply using him as a guinea pig and maybe it would not have seemed so retaliatory (as if David did it out of spite) if that guy wasn't a dick the entire film.

Anubis2005X

I like Alien and Aliens well enough, but I'm not a fanboy by any means. I knew going into this one that it wouldn't be much about xenomorphs, and I was totally fine with that. Also, I really enjoyed the film up until about halfway through. Once the crap started hitting the fan was where the movie just started to lose me. Feels like a lot of stuff was cut out of the second half...

islandclaws

No, I fully agree that there are clear and obvious scripting issues, as well as a number of unexplained actions that may never be explained if a sequel isn't realized. I also think that some people are nitpicking too much, though, and things they aren't getting are things they need to think about more.

This is one of those films that had an incredible trailer and huge internet buzz... and a lot of those often don't meet expectations, which I feel leads to "fanboy anger". Right now, the hot thing is to totally hate on this movie. And, again, I think almost every point people bring up is valid, but it's still far more thought-provoking than almost any I'll see this year.

I'm hoping it can be reassessed in a more positive light once Ridley's longer cut surfaces.

Dr. DVD

Kind of lends credence to my ritual suicide theory.

TGM

^ are Bill & Ted in this movie too?

JumpCutz

Only Bill but it's a pretty short sequence.

Goat3001

It's not that bad but



I cringed.

kefrank

It's an intense scene, but it's not "gross." Footage of real surgery on TV is far more gross.

Why So Blu?

Btw, after reading The Art of Prometheus book in its entirety yesterday, there are some interesting tidbits of info that are hinted at.

The "Deacon," (proto-alien) as he's called may be female due to it originally being birthed from Shaw, which is why it has that slender body type of a female. They also hint that it may be an earlier version of a Queen.

The one thing that stood out for me was the shape of the "proto-alien" itself and the alien in the mural. They look alike, they have the same head, which is why it could be an early Queen due to the rest of the mural design looking like a Queen's head enveloping what looks to be a "warrior." It may be talking about the "proto-alien's" life cycle instead of a general life-cycle.

Seriously, for those on the edge or if you enjoyed the film, get the book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/178...SIN=1781161097

golden_rod

I loved it. It has flaws, many great movies do, but I never found it anything less than intriguing.

One of the concepts I particularly liked was how Weyland was destroyed for attempting to prolong life & the Engineers were destroyed for attempting to destroy the life they created.

Why is there so much question in regards to David taking Shaw's cross? He was fascinated by it and taking it was his small attempt to take away her faith. That's it.

Ringmaster

Finally saw it last night and I was floored by it. I knew going in that I was not watching an "Alien" film, but a rather extensive prologue to the Alien universe. I was entertained by it and whatever flaws I saw were nitpickings in the grand scheme of the movie. I can't wait to pick up the blu-ray in October and watch the extended cut.

Solid Snake

And now I know what the guy really looked like..and he's tall as fuck too.

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ultimaton

Saw it in IMAX 3D yesterday, and really enjoyed it. It does some have some flaws, for sure, but I still found it to be a thought provoking, intense, scary, film.

The ship is literally filled with stuff the space gods made specifically to weaponize and wipe out life on Earth, and your solution is to bring it to Earth?

arminius

It was ok, looked really good but was dumb. Even though they were mostly scientists and there was more of them they had less than half the collective IQ of the crew of the Nostromo. All the things mentioned already, cracking the helmets, 2 guys getting lost after they just mapped the inside, cutting yourself open and 2 minutes later running around, petting the goo and so on. Stupid actions required by the plot.

I was not impressed with the engineers actions either. A supposedly advanced race and the first thing he does on waking is acting like a wild animal. Instead of actually getting some info from these lifeforms they supposedley created before going nuts? He has no interest in what went on since he was put into storage? And they respect life so much that they develope a bio weapon they can't even control. They should have nuked themselves instaed of Earth.

It had the illusion of depth, which I guess is a Lindeloff hallmark. And I agree there really was no reason for the xeno to pop out like that. It looked tacked on.

Actually did they have many ships buried there, all filled with that goo? Were they going to wipe out all life? Were they the forerunners of Saberhagens Berserkers? Fuck them. I hope in the sequel we go there and kill em all amd let goo sort them out.

RichC2

Saw it last week but never got around to commenting on it directly -- I enjoyed the movie but it seemed like half great movie and half studio suggested filler. The dialog was pretty awful in spots, the acting was fine, but the script didn't seem to know what kind of character they wanted Shaw to be. The "run" from the ship and the initial encounter with the snakes were the two most idiotic things I've seen in a while.

I don't think a director's cut will fix the flaws unless Scott has alternate scenes ready.

The movie also reminded me a lot of Metroid. I'm sure Alien was a big influence on the original game, but it seems to have come full circle.

Well if you're going to test out biological weapons, it seems like a good idea to test them out on what is essentially you, it came off like we're their lab rats.

arminius

Good point. We were just developed to be a test bed for weapons research so they could destroy all life in the universe. That would be a bigger slap in the face than the robots "because we could" remark.