Weekend Box Office (5/4 - 5/7): Joss Whedon Finally Achieves Box Office Gold
05-07-12, 01:42 PM
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Who cares about unadjusted dollars when you're going 8-16 years back?
BB also had lower per-screen attendance than B&R.
BB also had lower per-screen attendance than B&R.
05-07-12, 01:42 PM
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People have been saying that for four years. They've been saying that because it's true. Ledger's death is forever linked to The Dark Knight. You can argue how much it affected the box office but you literally cannot make the claim that it didn't contribute to the movie's appeal.
It's funny, the Nolanites want to blame "Batman & Robin" for BB's disappointing box office take but they don't wanna acknowledge that something else contributed to TDK's success.
It's funny, the Nolanites want to blame "Batman & Robin" for BB's disappointing box office take but they don't wanna acknowledge that something else contributed to TDK's success.
Ya know, I'm not sure which had the greater impact, Ledger's death, or the fact that Ledger was such a awesome villain opposite Christian bale.
05-07-12, 01:45 PM
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BB's worldwide gross in 2012 dollars: $490 million
Some failure...
Bear in mind that BB had to overcome B&R's rancid fucking stench of ineptitude. Along the same lines of thinking, a lot of TDKR's momentum and opening weekend excitement will originate out of TDK's massive critical and commercial acceptance.
05-07-12, 01:46 PM
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It'll be close but I doubt it.
That's actually incorrect, BB had higher attendance than B&R when all was said and done, but it's the 2nd lowest attended of the bunch. Again though, I don't know what this has to do with anything? You can't compare a relaunch or original to its sequel in terms of gross. What do you accredit The Matrix Reloaded (ow: $91.7m opening, domestic: $281m, ww: $742m) doing so much better than The Matrix (ow: $27.8m, domestic: $171m, ww: $463m) to? Gloria Foster's death?
That's actually incorrect, BB had higher attendance than B&R when all was said and done, but it's the 2nd lowest attended of the bunch. Again though, I don't know what this has to do with anything? You can't compare a relaunch or original to its sequel in terms of gross. What do you accredit The Matrix Reloaded (ow: $91.7m opening, domestic: $281m, ww: $742m) doing so much better than The Matrix (ow: $27.8m, domestic: $171m, ww: $463m) to? Gloria Foster's death?
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05-07-12, 01:47 PM
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I'm not saying his performance would have been panned but no living actor has ever received that kind of reception for a performance that I can recall.
05-07-12, 01:54 PM
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B&R's worldwide gross in 2012 dollars: $429 million
BB's worldwide gross in 2012 dollars: $490 million
Some failure...
Bear in mind that BB had to overcome B&R's rancid fucking stench of ineptitude. Along the same lines of thinking, a lot of TDKR's momentum and opening weekend excitement will originate out of TDK's massive critical and commercial acceptance.
BB's worldwide gross in 2012 dollars: $490 million
Some failure...
Bear in mind that BB had to overcome B&R's rancid fucking stench of ineptitude. Along the same lines of thinking, a lot of TDKR's momentum and opening weekend excitement will originate out of TDK's massive critical and commercial acceptance.
That was my whole point: people like you can't accept that BB was a disappointment. That $490 gross took MONTHS. Nobody at Warner wants to see Batman limp past the finish line at $205 million when Sony got $114 million in its first weekend 3 years earlier with Spider-Man.
05-07-12, 01:55 PM
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You're ranking them wrong, you have to look at it on a pop culture scale, Ledger's Joker is up there, but is still behind Johnny Depp's Captain Sparrow. They milked that for 4 movies.
Of course not, it didn't have a bad box office but it wasn't huge like the Spider-man flicks, but they ultimately got it with the sequel after BB proved to audiences that the franchise still had life left in it. And you kind of agree with the other point that BB had to resurrect a dead franchise (as far as audiences were concerned).
In all though, it's a moot point. I have far less interest in seeing Bane in the current Batman flicks than seeing the Joker. As far as I'm concerned, The Joker is the peak of the Batman franchise -- and I think interest levels (and box office) will be lessened because of it. It is the third/final entry in a trilogy which may help, but I don't think it'll be anywhere near as big as TDK.
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That was my whole point: people like you can't accept that BB was a disappointment. That $490 gross took MONTHS. Nobody at Warner wants to see Batman limp past the finish line at $205 million when Sony got $114 3 years earlier with Spider-Man.
In all though, it's a moot point. I have far less interest in seeing Bane in the current Batman flicks than seeing the Joker. As far as I'm concerned, The Joker is the peak of the Batman franchise -- and I think interest levels (and box office) will be lessened because of it. It is the third/final entry in a trilogy which may help, but I don't think it'll be anywhere near as big as TDK.
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05-07-12, 02:17 PM
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I predict Weekend Box Office (July 18-22) will be a fun thread.
05-07-12, 02:34 PM
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I think TDKR has a decent shot at breaking the IMAX and midnight showing records but I predict it'll be a lot more front-loaded than TDK was. The In Nolan We Trust'ers will show up in force and their blind devotion will translate into big numbers for the first few days at least.
I just can't see general audiences flocking to see TDKR for several weeks and I also see a lot of the fanatics going "only" 2 or 3 times when they saw TDK 6 or 7.
I just can't see general audiences flocking to see TDKR for several weeks and I also see a lot of the fanatics going "only" 2 or 3 times when they saw TDK 6 or 7.
05-07-12, 02:58 PM
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I think TDKR has a decent shot at breaking the IMAX and midnight showing records but I predict it'll be a lot more front-loaded than TDK was. The In Nolan We Trust'ers will show up in force and their blind devotion will translate into big numbers for the first few days at least.
I just can't see general audiences flocking to see TDKR for several weeks and I also see a lot of the fanatics going "only" 2 or 3 times when they saw TDK 6 or 7.
I just can't see general audiences flocking to see TDKR for several weeks and I also see a lot of the fanatics going "only" 2 or 3 times when they saw TDK 6 or 7.
The Internet != The vast majority of everyday moviegoers. They're barely a blip, really.
The fact that you're so ridiculously hung up on and obsesed with them says entirely so much more about you than anyone else...
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05-07-12, 04:18 PM
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Re: Weekend Box Office (5/4 - 5/7): Joss Whedon Finally Achieves Box Office Gold
Were you not around for the first trailers of TPM? People went to shitty films just to see that damn_trailer. *cough*meetjoeblack*cough*
05-07-12, 04:35 PM
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$207 million? No way any other movie this year comes close to that on opening weekend. TDKR opening weekend will be closer to $150 million than it is $200 million. Heck, the next movie that comes close to that very well may be Iron Man 3.
05-07-12, 06:06 PM
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Little did we know at that time that Meet Joe Black was still better than TPM.
$207 million? No way any other movie this year comes close to that on opening weekend. TDKR opening weekend will be closer to $150 million than it is $200 million. Heck, the next movie that comes close to that very well may be Iron Man 3.
$207 million? No way any other movie this year comes close to that on opening weekend. TDKR opening weekend will be closer to $150 million than it is $200 million. Heck, the next movie that comes close to that very well may be Iron Man 3.
Outside of The Hobbit, I guess the next huge thing would be Catching Fire, which has a November '13 release. And then maybe Transformers 4 in June '14.