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PopcornTreeCt 03-25-12 05:47 PM

When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Watching older Nicholson movies like Five Easy Pieces, Chinatown, The Passenger, Easy Rider, and even One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest you see a totally different actor. Not just his appearance but he was such a better actor.

My question is, when did he develop his "Jack" schtick and play that personality over and over again? Was it The Shining? Was it later?

Solid Snake 03-25-12 05:50 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
I'm going to say probably the 80s.

GoldenJCJ 03-25-12 06:05 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Seems to me like he turned it into high gear for Batman.

PopcornTreeCt 03-25-12 06:07 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 11166112)
Seems to me like he turned it into high gear for Batman.

That's what I was thinking too.

Drexl 03-25-12 06:38 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
I think it was before Batman, perhaps The Witches of Eastwick.

My Other Self 03-25-12 06:55 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 11166143)
I think it was before Batman, perhaps The Witches of Eastwick.

I think that's the first movie I started noticing it in. Has Nicholson really done anything of caliber to his older performances since The Shinging?

Matthew Chmiel 03-25-12 07:03 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 11166143)
I think it was before Batman, perhaps The Witches of Eastwick.

This.


Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11166162)
Has Nicholson really done anything of caliber to his older performances since The Shinging?

I think Nicholson has been in some great films since The Shining (Broadcast News, As Good As it Gets, and The Departed come to mind). However, none of those films were good because of Nicholson.

Mike86 03-25-12 07:04 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
It may have happened before but to me Batman and anything after is when it began to become more noticeable.

Kurt D 03-25-12 07:08 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
I'm going to vote for <i>The Shining</i>, and I blame Kubrick. The bonus features mention how Nicholson would give what he thought was a realistic performance and Kubrick kept telling him to go way over the top to get the stuff he wanted.

JumpCutz 03-25-12 07:13 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
^Agree. I don't like the mugging Nicholson does in The Shining. An odd choice by Kubrick.

TomOpus 03-25-12 07:19 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Yeah, don't get me started on the horrible casting of Nicholson in "The Shining." I always agreed with what Stephen King said about that.

Shannon Nutt 03-25-12 07:31 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11166162)
I think that's the first movie I started noticing it in. Has Nicholson really done anything of caliber to his older performances since The Shinging?

Hoffa and The Pledge. He should have gotten an Oscar noms for both of them.

inri222 03-25-12 07:52 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11166162)
I think that's the first movie I started noticing it in. Has Nicholson really done anything of caliber to his older performances since The Shinging?

Ironweed & The Crossing Guard

RoadToPerdition 03-25-12 07:57 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
On a related note, when did Pacino get his? The Devil's Advocate?

My Other Self 03-25-12 07:58 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11166202)
Hoffa and The Pledge. He should have gotten an Oscar noms for both of them.

I wasn't particuarly impressed with his performance in Hoffa, but I remember The Pledge getting rave reviews when it came out.

All I seem to remember him doing movies as of late are things like The Bucket List. I liked The Departed but it wasn't because of his performance in particular.

Originally Posted by RoadToPerdition (Post 11166235)
On a related note, when did Pacino get his? The Devil's Advocate?

That's the one that sticks out to me. Everything he's done since then has been of law-caliber, with the exception of Insomnia.

inri222 03-25-12 08:03 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11166236)
Everything he's done since then has been of law-caliber, with the exception of Insomnia.

IMO he was also good in 'The Insider' & 'You Don't Know Jack'.

JZ1276 03-25-12 08:44 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by RoadToPerdition (Post 11166235)
On a related note, when did Pacino get his? The Devil's Advocate?

Either Heat or The Devil's Advocate (not sure which came first).


Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 11166243)
IMO he was also good in 'The Insider' & 'You Don't Know Jack'.

These films show he still has the chops, but seems like in the last 10 years he'll take whatever he can get.

JumpCutz 03-25-12 09:29 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Pacino was WAY over the top in Scent of a Woman, even though he won the Oscar.

Pacino started his career with quiet self-contained performances and the last 15 or so years HE GOT LOUD!!

Okay back to Nicholson. :)

JumpCutz 03-25-12 09:30 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 11166243)
IMO he was also good in 'The Insider' & 'You Don't Know Jack'.

Yes he was.

gmanca 03-25-12 10:01 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11166202)
Hoffa and The Pledge. He should have gotten an Oscar noms for both of them.

Yeah, those are his last great performances in serious roles.

foofighters7 03-25-12 11:45 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Jack was terrific in 'About Schmidt' and he wasn't doing any so called 'schtick'. It was also quite a nice film.

Numanoid 03-25-12 11:56 PM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 11166196)
Yeah, don't get me started on the horrible casting of Nicholson in "The Shining." I always agreed with what Stephen King said about that.

Yes, what a horrible, iconic performance.

TomOpus 03-26-12 12:13 AM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 

Originally Posted by Numanoid (Post 11166537)
Yes, what a horrible, iconic performance.

The story is about Torrance's decent into madness. Nicholson pretty much looks crazy from the get-go and that lessens the impact the house is having on him.

Hazel Motes 03-26-12 12:23 AM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
Deniro never really developed a schtick. But he definetly stopped giving a shit at some point.

My Other Self 03-26-12 12:44 AM

Re: When did Jack Nicholson develop his schtick?
 
What did Stephen King say about Jack Nicholson's performance in The Shining? That's gotta be one of the best performances in a film.


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