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Old 11-21-13, 10:59 PM
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I didn't dislike QoS of much as everyone, but I guess I'm a sucker for anything somewhat entertaining since Skyfall is my second favorite Bond film.

Maybe time will be better to it. It's not without its problems but definitely not nearly as bad as it's made out to be.
It IS the weakest of the 3 Craig Bond films but BURIES everything Pierce Brosnan did, outside of Goldeneye.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I don't even look at it as a movie but a long deleted scene from the end of Casino Royale. I enjoy all three Craig films and can't wait for the rest.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

But had it been a fraction of a second flash of bush instead of panties, QoS may have been better than Goldeneye. *sigh* What could have been...

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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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But had it been a fraction of a second flash of bush instead of panties, QoS may have been better than Goldeneye. *sigh* What could have been...
The road not taken.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I'd rather watch any of the Brosnan movies over QoS. Even DAD.
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It's not just Quantum of Solace for me. I've seen at least 10 Bond movies, haven't liked a single one. The character just isn't all that interesting. I always feel like I'm watching a fully realized European car commercial. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I didn't hate it, i just felt it had a weak storyline with the whole hoarding water. The villains were also uninteresting. I seem to recall the Dalton movie where they had like an Army General (Joe Don Baker if i recall) as a co-bad guy and it was just awful. Same thing here. I am also not a fan of Olga Kurylenko. She is easy on the eyes but she is a terrible actress. I do think QoS has its moments. The opening is pretty good. The Opera scene is nice.

It just really went nowhere. I like the idea of Quantum and would like to see the organization pop up in future movies, but the rest of the movie was generally dull.
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The action sequences and editing are really clumsy, and the film was rushed into production without a finished script, and it shows. Having said that, this is probably the closest thing to an "auteur" the Bond franchise is ever likely to get, and this is one of the few Bond flicks where Bond is actually against the government rather than for it, and there's a slight political edge that runs through it. It's basically structured as a Hitchcock man-on-the run type film. I've heard a few contrarians suggest that maybe time will kinder to it than it has to some other Bond flicks.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by james2025a
I seem to recall the Dalton movie where they had like an Army General (Joe Don Baker if i recall) as a co-bad guy and it was just awful.
I love The Living Daylights.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

It seems that the internet is only capable of dealing in hyperbole. Casino Royale and Skyfall are praised to high heavens while Quantum of Solace is an atrocity. I think they're all really enjoyable, and they all have their share of flaws. The Craig Bond films are probably the most consistent in terms of quality, even if they're not perfect. I think the other runs peak higher, but also sink lower.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst113
The action sequences and editing are really clumsy, and the film was rushed into production without a finished script, and it shows. Having said that, this is probably the closest thing to an "auteur" the Bond franchise is ever likely to get, and this is one of the few Bond flicks where Bond is actually against the government rather than for it, and there's a slight political edge that runs through it. It's basically structured as a Hitchcock man-on-the run type film. I've heard a few contrarians suggest that maybe time will kinder to it than it has to some other Bond flicks.
I dunno. Skyfall seemed very Auteurish to me. Deakins sure made it the best looking one.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

What's cool about QoS is that if you look at the cast IMDB page it says Alfonso Cuaron and Guillermo del Toro contributed voices to the film - they went uncredited. I guess a lot of those actors that looked like they spoke Spanish really didn't.

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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I like it as Casino Royale pt 2.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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What's cool about QoS is that if you look at the cast IMDB page it says Alfonso Cuaron and Guillermo del Toro contributed voices to the film - they went uncredited. I guess a lot of those actors that looked like they spoke Spanish really didn't.
It's during the party that Greene is hosting. Del Toro's voice is easy to spot. I don't know what Cuaron sounds like but apparently he dubbed the same scene as another guest.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
It IS the weakest of the 3 Craig Bond films but BURIES everything Pierce Brosnan did, outside of Goldeneye.







Craig is the best Bond ever.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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It's during the party that Greene is hosting. Del Toro's voice is easy to spot. I don't know what Cuaron sounds like but apparently he dubbed the same scene as another guest.
I'll have to look for it next time.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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Craig is the best Bond ever.
I know it is all opinion but Craig is right above Lazenby for me. Connery is by far the best with the others following him. But Craig comes across as a thug with no sophistication whatsoever. If that is what you like in your Bond, so be it but I prefer a Bond who can do more than grunt.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I'll have to look for it next time.
Well that obviously won't help.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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Well that obviously won't help.
Good one. I meant during the scene at Greene's party - at least I know what scene to HEAR it in.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
It IS the weakest of the 3 Craig Bond films but BURIES everything Pierce Brosnan did, outside of Goldeneye.
I'll probably get shit on for saying this but I really don't think Goldeneye is all that great. I think I had a lot of nostalgia for it because of all the fun times I had back in the day playing the game on Nintendo 64 and I associated the movie with the game obviously but the movie itself has really aged terribly if you ask me. I'd take the Dalton Bond films over any of the Bosnan films any day to be honest. I've always found Dalton's run as Bond extremely underrated.

As for Quantum of Solace, I really don't think it's as terrible as a lot of people make it out to be but is overall forgettable and not as good as the other two Craig Bond films.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I've always found Dalton's run as Bond extremely underrated.


Though Connery will always be the archetype, Dalton is my personal favorite.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I'll probably get shit on for saying this but I really don't think Goldeneye is all that great. I think I had a lot of nostalgia for it because of all the fun times I had back in the day playing the game on Nintendo 64 and I associated the movie with the game obviously but the movie itself has really aged terribly if you ask me. I'd take the Dalton Bond films over any of the Bosnan films any day to be honest. I've always found Dalton's run as Bond extremely underrated.

As for Quantum of Solace, I really don't think it's as terrible as a lot of people make it out to be but is overall forgettable and not as good as the other two Craig Bond films.
Goldeneye is excellent, except for the shitty synth score, which was mystifying even back when the film was released, in 1995, the height of the alternative era. Very strange decision.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

I still think QOS is a terrible movie. The biffest thing it failed at is how terribly every action scene was shot.I still remember the opening car chase in the theatre and I had no idea what in the hell was going on. And since the Bond movies are known for action sequences, for them to fail in this regard is inexcusable.
As for the talk about which Bond is best, I honestly think each Bond was the best for their generation. Moore wouldn't work in the Connery movies,Dalton wouldn't work in the Moore movies, and Craig wouldn't work in the Brosnan movies. So comparing them is kind of a mute point.
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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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The biffest thing it failed at

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Re: Why exactly did/do people hate 'Quantum of Solace'?

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I'll probably get shit on for saying this but I really don't think Goldeneye is all that great. I think I had a lot of nostalgia for it because of all the fun times I had back in the day playing the game on Nintendo 64 and I associated the movie with the game obviously but the movie itself has really aged terribly if you ask me. I'd take the Dalton Bond films over any of the Bosnan films any day to be honest. I've always found Dalton's run as Bond extremely underrated.

As for Quantum of Solace, I really don't think it's as terrible as a lot of people make it out to be but is overall forgettable and not as good as the other two Craig Bond films.

Goldeneye brought us Sean Bean. From then on, he would be known to the world, even though he had already been around for years. He nails his performance. Also, Famke Janssen was gifted to us. That Nintendo 64 game was great.

My favorite Dalton performance is in License To Kill, because that was the first Bond film I ever saw in theaters.


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