Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012, d: Timur Bekmambetov, p: Tim Burton)
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It's aimed at an older crowd, which I appreciate.
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I'm one of those people who read it, and I'd be interested in a literate adaptation that's somewhat grounded in reality. Zero interest in yet another quick-cut wire-fu action fest as indicated by the trailer. I imagine that I'm not alone.
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There was an interview with the writer of the film who also wrote the book and he talks about the massive changes that he had to make in order for it to be marketable. The book is epic, the film is more of a "thrill ride," with all the minutia from the book left out. *shrugs*
I'm seeing it today at 5pm.
I'm seeing it today at 5pm.
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I don't need my movies to have a history lesson in them, but if you knew nothing about Lincoln going in, you'd know even less coming out. I enjoyed it overall, but it felt like a string of videogame cutscenes - cool visuals, horrible dialogue and not a single character you cared about or moment that held any weight whatsoever. The 3D was fine but where I saw it, the projection was dark and the desaturated look of much of it got annoying to me - I wish it had been a bit more FUN. It's so sombre and never badass enough to justify going that route. I thought the end credit sequence was better than the 115 minutes that came before it.
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^agreed but my wife and I were even more lukewarm towards it at the end. I appreciate the movie playing it straight, but was definitely missing the fun. Went to to a 2:40 PM PST showing and there were maybe 15-20 people in the theatre. Don't see this one doing well.
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Just got home. It was silly fun, nothing more. I do hope that they put out an extended or director's cut. Some of the non-action scenes were awkwardly edited. My main gripe was:
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I quite enjoyed the book as an alt-history fan, but little interest in seeing a movie and they totally picked the wrong director for this. While the book was fairly serious it worked in that medium, but for a film you really need a bit more tongue in cheek - Sam Raimi could've had fun with it.
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I quite enjoyed the book as an alt-history fan, but little interest in seeing a movie and they totally picked the wrong director for this. While the book was fairly serious it worked in that medium, but for a film you really need a bit more tongue in cheek - Sam Raimi could've had fun with it.
I enjoyed the movie well enough, and thought that some of the actions scenes were really great. However, I definitely question the choice to play this movie completely and utterly straight. It didn't have to be a camp fest, but just a smidge of tongue and cheek could have made the movie a whole lot more fun.
The lead in this movie, Benjamin Walker, sure looks a whole lot like a young Liam Neeson. In some scenes, it was almost like Liam played the role and then they put him through the Benjamin Buttons process. This of course just makes you think of how much more awesome the movie Liam Neeson: Vampire Hunter would've been.
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It was an interesting film and some of the action scenes were really cool. I question the premise of having vampires responsible for the proliferation of slavery in the United States but having Harriet Tubman essentially be responsible for the north winning the Civil War sorta makes up for the racial revisionism.
I haven't read the book so I cannot compare but I don't mind that the director played the movie straight. It's more Blade than Buffy.
To answer your question
I haven't read the book so I cannot compare but I don't mind that the director played the movie straight. It's more Blade than Buffy.
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What can I say, I liked it...a lot. They've taken Lincoln and turned him into a semi-superhero, but much of the "real" Lincoln is still up there on screen. The bigger History buff you are, the more you're going to enjoy this movie...they've tweaked things a little here for purposes of screen time (sadly, no Ann Rutledge, and you'd never know the Lincolns had any other children but Willie if your only exposure to him was this film)...but considering they cover his life from young adult to the presidency, they did a pretty good job.
The movie is an R, but has very much a PG-13 feel to it. Nothing TOO gory or sexual in the film and by no means a "hard" R.
Those looking for action sequences will probably be the most disappointed. Yes, there are a number of scenes with Abe taking on vamps, but they're heavily CGI'd and - for me - the least appealing parts of the film. It's the rest of the movie that I enjoyed the most...and I'm guessing fans of the book (which also was more about history than Abe fighting vamps) will enjoy the most as well.
I give it a B+
The movie is an R, but has very much a PG-13 feel to it. Nothing TOO gory or sexual in the film and by no means a "hard" R.
Those looking for action sequences will probably be the most disappointed. Yes, there are a number of scenes with Abe taking on vamps, but they're heavily CGI'd and - for me - the least appealing parts of the film. It's the rest of the movie that I enjoyed the most...and I'm guessing fans of the book (which also was more about history than Abe fighting vamps) will enjoy the most as well.
I give it a B+
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Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012, d: Timur Bekmambetov, p: Tim Burton)
I don't need my movies to have a history lesson in them, but if you knew nothing about Lincoln going in, you'd know even less coming out. I enjoyed it overall, but it felt like a string of videogame cutscenes - cool visuals, horrible dialogue and not a single character you cared about or moment that held any weight whatsoever. The 3D was fine but where I saw it, the projection was dark and the desaturated look of much of it got annoying to me - I wish it had been a bit more FUN. It's so sombre and never badass enough to justify going that route. I thought the end credit sequence was better than the 115 minutes that came before it.
What was the end credits sequence? I ALWAYS stay till the end of movies and 98% of the time there's never anything.
After i saw this today we wanted to stay and relax in our seats for the credits but everyone left and we were the only people left and the cleanup people looked like they were waiting just for us...
So it kinda made it awkward so we left, and there actually WAS something? ARG!
Not cool!
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What was the end credits sequence? I ALWAYS stay till the end of movies and 98% of the time there's never anything.
After i saw this today we wanted to stay and relax in our seats for the credits but everyone left and we were the only people left and the cleanup people looked like they were waiting just for us...
So it kinda made it awkward so we left, and there actually WAS something? ARG!
Not cool!
After i saw this today we wanted to stay and relax in our seats for the credits but everyone left and we were the only people left and the cleanup people looked like they were waiting just for us...
So it kinda made it awkward so we left, and there actually WAS something? ARG!
Not cool!
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Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012, d: Timur Bekmambetov, p: Tim Burton)
The Internet says there is nothing after the credits, which is why we didn't stick around. What was the scene?
There were massive changes from the book, most likely in the interest of expediency. The book is quite dense and spends time introducing characters the movie just couldn't afford. Once I got on board with that, it was a fun ride. You don't see a lot of axe spinning in movies, so that was always fun to watch. It's pretty much "go go go" from the beginning and Walker does a good job portraying Lincoln through the years.
All in all it was a fun little action flick which is all I wanted.
There were massive changes from the book, most likely in the interest of expediency. The book is quite dense and spends time introducing characters the movie just couldn't afford. Once I got on board with that, it was a fun ride. You don't see a lot of axe spinning in movies, so that was always fun to watch. It's pretty much "go go go" from the beginning and Walker does a good job portraying Lincoln through the years.
All in all it was a fun little action flick which is all I wanted.
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Oh, that wasn't post credits. It's just the last scene in the movie.
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Re: Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (2012, d: Timur Bekmambetov, p: Tim Burton)
Yeah, every one sees that scene...that's a pre-credits scene. The "implication" is there that it's Lincoln. Or maybe Obama.