Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
#27
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I mean it seems like it could be fun and I'm a fan of Guy Pearce, but on the other hand it just seems like someone pitched an idea and added "in space" at the end.
Last edited by bluetoast; 04-11-12 at 09:08 PM. Reason: GOOF UP!
#28
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Formerly known as "Jeffy Pop"/Denver
Posts: 3,038
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12

The King's Speech - IN SPACE!
Human Centipede - IN SPACE!
Jack & Jill - IN SPACE!!!
#29
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
Posts: 39,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
for those of you who hate Grace...this might be fun.
<object width="600" height="387"><param name="movie" value="http://www.traileraddict.com/emd/55072"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.traileraddict.com/emd/55072" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" width="600" height="387" allowFullScreen="true"></embed></object>
<object width="600" height="387"><param name="movie" value="http://www.traileraddict.com/emd/55072"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.traileraddict.com/emd/55072" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" width="600" height="387" allowFullScreen="true"></embed></object>
#30
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12


#31
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: 75 clicks above the Do Lung bridge...
Posts: 18,946
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I think this will be like 'Die Hard' meets 'Blade Runner'. Probably will turn out to be one of the best action movies of the year. I'm going to guess it will be ridiculously entertaining!
#32
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I like Guy Pearce, but the reviews for this film are not being kind, and that is an understatement. Many of reviews are absolutely brutal.
#33
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: A National Park
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Really wanna see this. Huge Pierce fan and everytime I see the trailer it looks better!
Damn, looks like the 2 movies I wanna see are getting beat up in reviews
Damn, looks like the 2 movies I wanna see are getting beat up in reviews
#36
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
4/5 for me.
Not a ton of action tbh and the CG at the beginning is crap. But Pearce is great in this. Some really good one liners and it has quite a good ending.
There was a scene half through and it was odd and I thought a scene had been cut out and then they explained it later so that through me off.
Highly recommended.
Not a ton of action tbh and the CG at the beginning is crap. But Pearce is great in this. Some really good one liners and it has quite a good ending.
There was a scene half through and it was odd and I thought a scene had been cut out and then they explained it later so that through me off.
Highly recommended.
#37
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I would have rather seen this film with Snake Plissken and directed by old man Carpenter.
#38
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I actually thought this was a lot of fun. Pierce's character was a throwback to the badasses of old, kicking ass and tossing around one liners. My only gripe with the movie was
Spoiler:
#39
DVD Talk Special Edition
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Now that you mentioned the lack of final showdown, I agree. But at the time I really didn't miss it. Weird. Excited about the Unrated Blu coming on the 27th.
#40
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: A National Park
Posts: 4,964
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Yea I saw this too and it was great. The worse part was the horrible CGI bike chase but it was a good flick and better than the other director for hire Luc Besson Films.
I didnt notice or miss a final show down scene either. Looking forward to that blu!

#41
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Really enjoyed this, warts and all. I agree about the anticlimactic fight scene with the baddies.... Pearce made a decent antihero, although some of the lines he was forced to say were pretty atrocious. Got a real Star Wars vibe at the end with the space battle. All in all, glad I spent $1 on it.
#42
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Pretty forgetable if you ask me... but I shut the extra's off when one of the film makers was trying to say how great the character was. Complete rip-off of Snake but they were trying to pass it off like it was some new great idea they came up with.
#43
DVD Talk God
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
it was meh. maggie grace is a horrible actress. guy pearce was awesome as was lennie james.
#44
Banned by request
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Fuck this movie was awful. The dialogue was horrendous, the acting from everyone but Pearce was pathetic, and the direction was spastic. Can't believe anyone liked this.
#45
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Bay Area, California
Posts: 8,939
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Aside from Rudy from the UK show Misfits, it was a big miss for me. Guy had a few good lines, but since he kept to that one note the entire movie even that got old.
#46
DVD Talk Legend
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Sesame Street (the apt. next to Bob's)
Posts: 20,198
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes
on
5 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I didn't care much for it. It was an interesting premise, but middling execution. The actions scenes were all lacking. Very little back story on any of the main characters. Although Guy Pearce can be a believable action hero, here he was trying to be the cliched smartass loose cannon but just came off as annoying. His supposedly witty banter with Maggie Grace was mostly awful, and in some cases, painful.
#47
Banned
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Formerly known as "Solid Snake PAC"/Denton, Tx
Posts: 39,239
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
Bought this for super cheap on Amazon. Hrmm. It's pretty weak but fun to see Pearce. Go for Pearce having fun and that's about it. Jesus. Some of the CGI was really bad too. Pretty much everything is lackluster for this. Even Pearce to a degree.
#48
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
I actually loved this movie, despite the ridiculously sped up chase at the beginning. It's basically a self aware Escape From New York knock-off IN SPACE. Guy Pearce and Maggie Grace play well off one another and it never outstays its welcome, at just above 90 minutes. Heck, I'd love to see a sequel with both of them back together.
#49
Re: Lockout -- D: Mather/Leger S: Guy Pierce, Maggie Grace, Peter Stormare -- 4/20/12
2012's LOCKOUT starring Guy Pearce has been described by more than a few as an ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK ripoff, and apparently director John Carpenter didn't take too kindly to how much the filmmakers "borrowed" from his movie for their sci-fi actioner. Carpenter has won a plagiarism suit against production company EuropaCorp and screenwriters Luc Besson, Stephen St. Leger and James Mather, with a French court ruling that they are guilty of lifting plot elements from the 1981 dystopian film.
EuropaCorp has been ordered to pay 50,000 Euros to the rights owner of the movie, 20,000 to Carpenter and 10,000 to Nick Castle, Carpenter's ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK co-writer.
Excerpt of the ruling from Observatoire européen de l'audiovisuel:
In reaching its decision, the court recalled that although ideas are free to be used and there could be no protection merely for the theme of a film, it was nevertheless possible to consider whether the form of the film was not a characteristic feature, and whether its reproduction was such as to constitute infringement of copyright; this was determined by considering similarities rather than differences. The court therefore embarked on a detailed comparison of the plot and development of the films, their characters, and the sequences filmed, in order to determine the similarities between the works and deteremine whether these were sufficiently significant to be characteristic of infringement of copyright.
A number of elements present in both [Escape from New York] and ‘Lock-Out’ could in fact be considered as stock elements in the cinema. Other elements differed, such as the pace of the film and the special effects, but this could be because of the amount of time that had passed between the releases of the two films - 1981 and 2012 - and by the evolution in both techniques and mentalities in the intervening period. The court nevertheless noted many similarities between the two science-fiction films: both presented an athletic, rebellious and cynical hero, sentenced to a period of isolated incarceration - despite his heroic past - who is given the offer of setting out to free the President of the United States or his daughter held hostage in exchange for his freedom; he manages, undetected, to get inside the place where the hostage is being held, after a flight in a glider/space shuttle, and finds there a former associate who dies; he pulls off the mission in extremis, and at the end of the film keeps the secret documents recovered in the course of the mission.
The court held that the combination of these elements, which gave the film [Escape from New York] its particular appearance and originality, had been reproduced in ‘Lock-Out’, apart from certain scenes and specific details that were only present in the first film. The difference in the location of the action and the more modern character featured in ‘Lock-Out’ was not enough to differentiate the two films. The disputed film seemed to be in the same vein as [Escape from New York], and this had indeed been picked up in a number of press articles.
LOCKOUT isn't the first movie to be accused of swiping story and plot elements from a film, but it can be very difficult to prove, so I'm a little surprised that Carpenter won his case against EuropaCorp. Do you agree with the court's decision?
EuropaCorp has been ordered to pay 50,000 Euros to the rights owner of the movie, 20,000 to Carpenter and 10,000 to Nick Castle, Carpenter's ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK co-writer.
Excerpt of the ruling from Observatoire européen de l'audiovisuel:
In reaching its decision, the court recalled that although ideas are free to be used and there could be no protection merely for the theme of a film, it was nevertheless possible to consider whether the form of the film was not a characteristic feature, and whether its reproduction was such as to constitute infringement of copyright; this was determined by considering similarities rather than differences. The court therefore embarked on a detailed comparison of the plot and development of the films, their characters, and the sequences filmed, in order to determine the similarities between the works and deteremine whether these were sufficiently significant to be characteristic of infringement of copyright.
A number of elements present in both [Escape from New York] and ‘Lock-Out’ could in fact be considered as stock elements in the cinema. Other elements differed, such as the pace of the film and the special effects, but this could be because of the amount of time that had passed between the releases of the two films - 1981 and 2012 - and by the evolution in both techniques and mentalities in the intervening period. The court nevertheless noted many similarities between the two science-fiction films: both presented an athletic, rebellious and cynical hero, sentenced to a period of isolated incarceration - despite his heroic past - who is given the offer of setting out to free the President of the United States or his daughter held hostage in exchange for his freedom; he manages, undetected, to get inside the place where the hostage is being held, after a flight in a glider/space shuttle, and finds there a former associate who dies; he pulls off the mission in extremis, and at the end of the film keeps the secret documents recovered in the course of the mission.
The court held that the combination of these elements, which gave the film [Escape from New York] its particular appearance and originality, had been reproduced in ‘Lock-Out’, apart from certain scenes and specific details that were only present in the first film. The difference in the location of the action and the more modern character featured in ‘Lock-Out’ was not enough to differentiate the two films. The disputed film seemed to be in the same vein as [Escape from New York], and this had indeed been picked up in a number of press articles.
LOCKOUT isn't the first movie to be accused of swiping story and plot elements from a film, but it can be very difficult to prove, so I'm a little surprised that Carpenter won his case against EuropaCorp. Do you agree with the court's decision?