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james2025a 11-10-11 06:55 AM

What About Kerry Conran?
 
So its been 7 years since Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. I know it kinda bombed at the cinema, but i personally think it was really great and had a style all of its own. It certainly did not deserve to ruin a guys career....many other movies worse than this even in a real haters view.

I realize that he was tied to John Carter of Mars for a while, but the guy has not put out anything since SCATWOT. So anyone else like to see him make another movie?

Jay G. 11-10-11 07:29 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
According to Wikiepedia, he's also directed this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnWplvu29U

Ash Ketchum 11-10-11 10:16 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by james2025a (Post 10999176)
So its been 7 years since Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow.... So anyone else like to see him make another movie?

Absolutely not. The only good thing about the film was Angelina Jolie. If I want to experience her in an actual, y'know, good movie, I can just re-watch SALT.

islandclaws 11-10-11 11:11 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
This is Hollywood. You're only as good as your last picture, so...

GoldenJCJ 11-10-11 11:18 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
If you're trying to champion this guy I'm not sure calling his only movie "SCATWOT" is the best idea.

Matthew Chmiel 11-10-11 11:33 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 10999414)
Absolutely not. The only good thing about the film was Angelina Jolie. If I want to experience her in an actual, y'know, good movie, I can just re-watch SALT.

:lol:

The problem with a lot of first-time directors is they wait until the release of their film to book their second directing job. Which, in reality, could be both a good or a bad idea. If your film is an Awards darling or a financial hit, your value is worth more in the studio system. If your film sucks, you're fucked.

If I was getting press and publicity galore before my first film was released and I was offered to do a second job, I would take it just to guarantee me a job.

The Valeyard 11-10-11 11:43 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
I loved Sky Captain but could see why others don't. After the film tanked, I heard his name attached to two other films - John Carter of Mars (mentioned above) and Silver Surfer (without the FF). Back in 2006, my LCS owner said Conran came into the store and bought up a ton of Surfer stuff. But that was the last I heard of that project. Don't know if it morphed into Rise of the Silver Surfer or not.

In 2008, I was working on a project with one of the Sky Captain layout artists. I praised the film and he sort of shrugged it off. He said most of the animators and artists got involved because of their love for the film's concept. But once work started, it became tedious and miserable because Conran never knew what he wanted. He was constantly changing his mind and over-thinking decisions. This was his dream project AND his first film so he was apparently very nervous. Due to this, the film missed it's original opening date and was pushed back to after the summer season (which I feel hurt it's box office).

Don't know if that was a factor in why Conran hasn't worked since but there were a lot of behind-the-scenes stories I loved hearing. Doesn't change my view on the film. I love the hell out of that movie.

james2025a 11-10-11 01:39 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 10999414)
Absolutely not. The only good thing about the film was Angelina Jolie. If I want to experience her in an actual, y'know, good movie, I can just re-watch SALT.

You thought Salt was a good movie? I thought it was a piece of shit. At least Sky Captain was something different, not like Salt that felt like a horribly dated shitty 80's action flick. Truly terrible movie.

Hokeyboy 11-10-11 02:23 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
Kerry Conran? He's having high tea with Steven Lisberger...

devilshalo 11-10-11 03:04 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
His next projects couldn't be any worse than any Kurt Wimmer directed films.

Groucho 11-10-11 03:21 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
He should direct something with Klinton Spilsbury in the lead.

Matthew Chmiel 11-10-11 03:48 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 10999961)
His next projects couldn't be any worse than any Kurt Wimmer directed films.

:lol:

I think most would agree that Equilibrium was a fluke. However, he wrote some shit (cough, Sphere, cough) before that too.

Ash Ketchum 11-10-11 04:29 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by james2025a (Post 10999748)
You thought Salt was a good movie? I thought it was a piece of shit. At least Sky Captain was something different, not like Salt that felt like a horribly dated shitty 80's action flick. Truly terrible movie.

Different from what? SKY CAPTAIN reminded me of so many older, better things--sci-fi films, serials, cartoons, anime--that I would much rather have re-watched. SALT had its flaws, but I had a good time and thought Jolie was pretty awesome as an action heroine.

devilshalo 11-10-11 07:22 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11000047)
:lol:

I think most would agree that Equilibrium was a fluke. However, he wrote some shit (cough, Sphere, cough) before that too.

Final draft was by Attanasio, so not sure how much if anything changed on it, especially with the history surrounding its stop and start to finally being dusted off the shelf for a disappointing theatrical run.

Wimmer did, however, write Salt. :p

AVP77 11-13-11 09:19 AM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
I really enjoyed his movie, too bad there's not more pure adventure stories being made. But, from the documentary on the DVD, it sounded like there were huge production problems with time and cost over-runs on all the computer graphics work. Studios don't care if you put out crappy movies, but if you can't manage a budget/schedule/team, you'll have a lot of trouble finding work.

Pulp Hero 11-19-11 09:41 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 
Kevin Conran, Kerry's brother, put together a website not too long ago featuring a bunch of Sky Captain art, and even some video, up on it. Kevin Conran was the production designer on Sky Captain, and worked with Kerry from the very beginning when it was just the two of them

Can't post links yet, so add the appropriate Ws and change {dot} into a period.

kevinconran{dot}com/kevinconran/Home.html

On the "About Me" Kevin talks some about working on Sky Captain, including the following line:


Our budget was small too, much smaller than is commonly reported - believe me. In addition, our release date was moved up, our facility was too small, and we didn't have enough money to hire the most experienced people. Luckily, we ended up with a lot of wonderfully talented young people looking to help... and it was great!
For the curious, the usual budget estimation for Sky Captain runs around $70 million.

I'd love to see Conran get another pulp style movie into production or well any sort of sci-fi movie really. I think Sky Captain is a great film (and would have been greater still if Paramount hadn't meddled and left Kerry's original vision for the movie intact)

fumanstan 11-19-11 09:50 PM

Re: What About Kerry Conran?
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 10999961)
His next projects couldn't be any worse than any Kurt Wimmer directed films.


Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11000047)
:lol:

I think most would agree that Equilibrium was a fluke. However, he wrote some shit (cough, Sphere, cough) before that too.

All... two of them? I loved Equilibrium :(

He's written some decent stuff, I liked Law Abiding Citizen (until the end) and The Recruit :shrug:


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