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Old 11-03-11, 04:06 PM
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Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

I'm not going to argue this.

http://www.movieline.com/2011/11/uni...-wo.php?page=2

Universal studio president: "We make a lot of shitty movies"
by Sean O'Neal November 3, 2011

There’s a certain kind of candor that comes from a place of comfortable indifference, whether you’re a Disney executive secure that any blowback will be cushioned by a huge pile of money, or you’re just Mickey Rourke and what of it? But while he's certainly earned the right to blow off some steam after such a long tenure, Universal chief Ron Meyer’s recent speech at the Savannah Film Festival took on a slightly more pained, confessional edge as he recounted the myriad high-profile flops the studio had endured over the past few years, suggesting even he can’t believe some of the stuff they put out. “We make a lot of shitty movies,” Meyer said, “and every one of them breaks my heart.” While swearing that they always “set out to make good ones”—and reserving praise for films like United 93, A Beautiful Mind, and Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World (while also lamenting that they didn’t make enough money)—Meyer then engaged in some very public, very honest self-flagellation for what he felt were Universal’s shittiest shitty movies. And as you might expect, it was pretty awesome. Like this:

One of the worst movies we ever made was Wolfman… It’s one of those movies, the moment I saw it I thought, ‘What have we all done here?’ That movie was crappy. We all went wrong. It was one of those things… Like I said, we make a lot of bad movies. That’s one we should have smelled out a long time ago. It was wrong. The script never got right… [The cast] was awful. The director was wrong. Benicio [del Toro] stunk. It all stunk… Wolfman and Babe 2 are two of the shittiest movies we put out.

Land Of The Lost was just crap. I mean, there was no excuse for it. The best intentions all went wrong… Cowboys & Aliens wasn’t good enough. Forget all the smart people involved in it, it wasn’t good enough... All those little creatures bouncing around were crappy. I think it was a mediocre movie, and we all did a mediocre job with it…

Cowboys & Aliens didn’t deserve better. Land of the Lost didn’t deserve better… Cowboys & Aliens was a big loss, and Land of the Lost was a huge loss. We misfired. We were wrong. We did it badly, and I think we’re all guilty of it. I have to take first responsibility because I’m part of it, but we all did a mediocre job and we paid the price for it. It happens. They’re talented people. Certainly you couldn’t have more talented people involved in Cowboys & Aliens, but it took, you know, ten smart and talented people to come up with a mediocre movie. It just happens.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Cue Movie Net Nerds and their "agree 100%" posts...
Cue....NOTHING CHANGING OVER AT UNIVERSAL....
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

damn. That kind of takes balls..but he's the president of Universal...so..I guess he'd have to have balls. Now if only Disney could admit that.

I actually like Wolfman, the extended cut that is.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Wow, I didn't think Wolfman was THAT bad. I know it lost money and all, but I thought it was an entertaining way to spend 2 hrs. Haven't seen Cowboys & Aliens yet, but I do agree about Land of the Lost.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

I liked Land of the Lost but they obviously sunk way too much money in it, it was a niche film (geek raunch?) that somehow wound up with a $100m budget. Hated Wolfman and didn't see C&A.

I'm glad he's still sticking behind his guns on Scott Pilgrim, Universal came out as highly supportive of the movie and were proud of how it turned it out. I agree with them.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Wolfman was infinitely better than both Cowboys & Aliens and Land of the Lost, and it's only a decent movie. He's right, they do make plenty of shitty movies. Question now is whether or not he'll actually do anything about it.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

I love Scott Pilgrim.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Babe: Pig in the City one of the shittiest films you put out?

Huh, funny, critics actually disagree with that comment.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Wasn't there a thread here about a similar 'admission' by a studio head a ways back?
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Wow. Sure he's being honest, but he sounds like kind of a prick.

Haven't seen the other films, but I liked Wolfman. It was paced very similarly to the original film and was moody and atmospheric like it. I suppose they would have rather had some shitty-ass Rob Zombie torture porn remake or something.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Babe 2 is amazing, one of the most original sequels ever. Why is he even bringing up a movie nearly 15 yrs old?

other than that he's right
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

I don't disagree with the fact that Universal has made some shitty movies, but any studio would be lucky if the two shittiest movies it released was Babe: Pig in the City and The Wolfman.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Originally Posted by wahlers View Post

Haven't seen the other films, but I liked Wolfman. It was paced very similarly to the original film and was moody and atmospheric like it. I suppose they would have rather had some shitty-ass Rob Zombie torture porn remake or something.
they were actually the ones supposed to release his first movie House of 1000 Corpses, but due to rating issues, Universal dropped it and it went to Lions Gate in its current R rated form
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Dear OP: Bolding -- you're doing it wrong.


And Babe - Pig In The City is an awesome movie. Just because it flopped doesn't make it a shitty movie.



P.S. I thought we couldn't have profanity in thread titles.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Dear Numanoid, not really caring about that. And Mods, if profanity isn't allowed on the thread titles, my apologies, please remove. And if there's bolding etiquette, I'd be interested I know.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Their catalog BDs aren't too spectacular either.

I'm surprised he didn't mention Evan Almighty, which was a colossal disaster and probably cost a few people their jobs.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal View Post
Wolfman was infinitely better than both Cowboys & Aliens and Land of the Lost, and it's only a decent movie. He's right, they do make plenty of shitty movies. Question now is whether or not he'll actually do anything about it.
Agreed. Wolfman has PLENTY of flaws, but at least it has high production value and a few good scenes. The other 2 films I could barely sit through once. I own Wolfman and have watched it a few times now.

Battleship has a chance to be another huge expensive gamble from Universal that doesn't pay off.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

At least somebody is finally admitting Cowboys & Aliens sucks
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Wolfman - Terrible
Land of the Lost - Horrible
Scott Pilgrim - AMAZING! One of the best movies I've seen in a long time.
Cowboys & Aliens - Haven't seen yet but am hopeful it's good.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Originally Posted by trespoochies View Post
And if there's bolding etiquette, I'd be interested I know.
Just giving you a poke in the ribs. It's an old Other forum joke that a long post "Needs bolding!" so that we lazy people only have to read the important parts.


The profanity thing is true, though. At least it used to be.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Originally Posted by trespoochies View Post
Dear Numanoid, not really caring about that. And Mods, if profanity isn't allowed on the thread titles, my apologies, please remove. And if there's bolding etiquette, I'd be interested I know.
Usually you bold key points in the article so that if someone is skimming it they can read those and get the gist. If you bold the whole thing what's the point of holding at all?
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

When I think of Universal I think Back to the Future, Jaws and E.T. They need to lure Spielberg back and give him free reign.

I will say I love Universal's comedies. I think the rotating cast of Paul Rudd, Rashida Jones, Elizabeth Banks, Jason Segal, Seth Rogen, Jay Baruchel, Jonah Hill and occasionally Russell Brand is really good. They should be cranking those movies out every 3 months.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

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Just giving you a poke in the ribs. It's an old Other forum joke that a long post "Needs bolding!" so that we lazy people only have to read the important parts.


The profanity thing is true, though. At least it used to be.
Eh, no worries. Chaps me more the Universal president says all this stuff yet is still the president. I guess this is the obligatory "Nothing changes at Universal" scream.

Can't agree with you there completely Popcorn, I'm quite tired of seeing the Jason Segal/Paul Rudd shit flying at us. Sometimes less is more for me. Of course, those movies still trump, say Scorpion King 3.There's zero reason why they should keep shelling that garbage out. I guess they make enough money from those straight to DVD sales.

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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Originally Posted by wahlers View Post
Haven't seen the other films, but I liked Wolfman. It was paced very similarly to the original film and was moody and atmospheric like it. I suppose they would have rather had some shitty-ass Rob Zombie torture porn remake or something.
...or, you know, a good movie.

Wolfman was terrible. It was dreck. I love all the apologists in this thread, though.

And people, you don't need to mention how amazing you think Scott Pilgrim is. If you read the article, you'll note that it's clearly NOT one of the movies they're talking about. Scott Pilgrim did well critically. It was just a financial disaster. But so was Blade Runner. Time will prove Scott Pilgrim's worth.
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Re: Universal acknowledges the elephant in the room..."We make shitty movies"

Seems all these CEOs want to be like Steve Jobs, being 'bold' and 'visionary' but unless this guy actually makes changes he is just tryin to save his own skin and be badass.

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