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Old 08-24-11, 08:01 PM
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Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

What movie sequels treat the original movie...as if it were a movie in the world of the sequel?

Right now I can think of Blair Witch: Book of Shadows and
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Human Centipede 2
. What others are there?

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Old 08-24-11, 08:12 PM
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Wes Craven's New Nightmare recognizes the prior films as films within that universe.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

didn't the 2nd Blair Witch do that?
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

I mentioned that one in my OP.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

It doesn't count, but Return of the Living Dead was originally going to be based on John Russo's novel sequel to Night of the Living Dead. The finished product refers to NOTLD as a film based on real events.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?


(Gone in 60 Seconds being the "Previous" film)
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Halloween 3
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Old 08-24-11, 09:18 PM
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Freeway 2 has a scene where parts of Freeway 1 are shown on a television.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC View Post
didn't the 2nd Blair Witch do that?



did you even bother to read the massive original post?
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

I think it's only a matter of time before Final Destination does this.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

So, have any good movies done this?
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Gremlins 2 had a scene where Gremlins 1 was reviewed on VHS. ...I got nothing.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

The sequel is a TV series, but:

The Real Ghostbusters
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

A perfect example of what the OP was looking for:

In the sequel, JOLSON SINGS AGAIN (1949), Larry Parks, as singer Al Jolson, sits in a movie theater watching Parks as Jolson onscreen in THE JOLSON STORY (1946).

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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Does Blazing Saddles count?
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

I'd say Return of the Living Dead qualifies. It shares the "Living Dead" title with NOTLD, so it has that connection.

The Scream series sort of does this with the "Stab" movies-within-the-movie that are based on the previous "Scream" installments.

The Blair Witch Project/Blair Witch 2 one is kind of unusual in that, because of the nature of "Blair Witch Project," a sequel would almost have to treat the original movie as a movie because it passed itself off as a documentary made of found footage.
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Old 08-26-11, 01:51 AM
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

This is probably bending the rules a bit, but can we count sequels that replayed scenes from the original, to remind viewers what came before? If so, we can put Superman II, Police Story II, Rocky II, and The Rage: Carrie 2.

There's also weird cases like The Limey, which isn't really a sequel to Poor Cow but showed scenes from it as if they were flashbacks of Stamp's Limey character.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

How about Spaceballs, where the sequel of the film is treated as a film within the film.
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Originally Posted by rennervision View Post
Does Blazing Saddles count?
Is Blazing Saddles supposed to be a sequel to something?
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
How about Spaceballs, where the sequel of the film is treated as a film within the film.
Well in Spaceballs, Spaceballs itself is treated as a film within the film. "Corporal, get me the video cassette of Spaceballs: The Movie"

Consider your mind blown.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

I normally don't care that much, but I didn't know that about
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Human Centipede 2
and, frankly, I'm kinda annoyed that I read it now.

You might want to spoiler that shit since most people haven't seen the film and don't know much about it.

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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Yeah, well I heard it on Stern months ago so I thought it was common info. Sure I'll spoilerize it, but you ought to do the same in your post, otherwise it would still be revealed in the thread.

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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

someone complaining about lack of spoilering yet does it himself in the very post. I'm impressed.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Originally Posted by bluetoast View Post
Yeah, well I heard it on Stern months ago so I thought it was common info. Sure I'll spoilerize it, but you ought to do the same in your post, otherwise it would still be revealed in the thread.
Done, and thanks.

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someone complaining about lack of spoilering yet does it himself in the very post. I'm impressed.
Well, shit, it WAS in the OP.
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Re: Sequels where the original is treated as a film within the film?

Originally Posted by dugan View Post
The sequel is a TV series, but:

The Real Ghostbusters
I remember when they show the "Real Ghostbusters" the movie cast list that Winston says, "Murray... Ackroyd... and Ramis?! What's that, a lawfirm?!"
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