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Old 02-04-12, 05:29 PM   #76
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Re: Ridley Scott Ready To Direct New Version Of 'Blade Runner'

This isn't a remake. It's also two words.
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Old 02-04-12, 05:37 PM   #77
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Maybe a sequel would be cool. I wouldn't want Harrison Ford to be in it though. I have Natural City so that's as good a sequel to Blade Runner as I'm gonna get.
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Old 02-04-12, 08:26 PM   #78
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I'm not sure how this would work but if Ford were cast I would certainly be intrigued. I'd like to see what they have in mind for another Deckard story.
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Old 02-05-12, 01:38 AM   #79
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Re: Ridley Scott Ready To Direct New Version Of 'Blade Runner'

Deckard was a Replicant, how the fuck is that gonna work? I haven't been impressed with Ridley since Matchstick Men. This is bound to fail.
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Deckard was a Replicant, how the fuck is that gonna work? I haven't been impressed with Ridley since Matchstick Men. This is bound to fail.
Keep up your rate of posts and in ten years you will maybe become ranked among the super users of today's dvdtalk......only by that point 10 years in the future the super users of today will be super-super users.

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Regarding Ridley, I agree as well that not too much has impressed me with him lately..... but I think his latest developments hopefully change that.

I am really looking forward to seeing Prometheus, and if that goes well I will have full faith in this movie going well as well.
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Deckard was a Replicant, how the fuck is that gonna work? I haven't been impressed with Ridley since Matchstick Men. This is bound to fail.
Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends are skin jobs but not Deckard.
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Old 02-05-12, 04:31 PM   #82
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Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends are skin jobs but not Deckard.
I'll take Ridley Scott's word over yours.
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Old 02-05-12, 04:36 PM   #83
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Re: Ridley Scott Ready To Direct New Version Of 'Blade Runner'

Not really excited by this purported project. Even less so with Harrison Ford involved.
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Old 02-05-12, 09:53 PM   #84
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Not really excited by this purported project. Even less so with Harrison Ford involved.
I was okay until I heard about Ford. I love him in the original but I'd rather see a different story in this universe than see a direct sequel.
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Though a rumor broke over the weekend that suggested that Harrison Ford is in early talks to appear in Ridley Scott's new untitled Blade Runner project, Deadline is now reporting that Alcon Entertainment is fiercely denying the rumor, saying that such discussions have not taken place and that it is "quite unlikely" that the film will develop in a way that will require the actor.

"It is absolutely patently false that there has been any discussion about Harrison Ford being in Blade Runner," producer Andrew Kosove told the site, likening Scott's current approach to what he's doing with Prometheus. "To be clear, what we are trying to do with Ridley now is go through the painstaking process of trying to break the back of the story, figure out the direction we're going to take the movie and find a writer to work on it."

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Old 02-07-12, 01:32 AM   #86
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Re: Ridley Scott Ready To Direct New Version Of 'Blade Runner'

Not surprising, I didn't believe the rumor... though I'm still a big fan and would love to see him involved, this isn't Indiana Jones... there's just no financial incentive for them to spend a big amount on him for this potential film. (which I'm still not convinced will be made)
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...(which I'm still not convinced will be made)
I kept thinking this until Prometheus was made and now confirmed to be an official Alien prequel. So anything could happen at this point IMO.
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Buster Friendly and his Friendly Friends are skin jobs but not Deckard.
You're right if you're talking about the book. You're wrong if you're talking about the movie. Well, the Final Cut version that is.
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Old 02-07-12, 02:14 PM   #89
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You're right if you're talking about the book. You're wrong if you're talking about the movie. Well, the Final Cut version that is.
Yea, I know. I just do not agree with Deckard being one. It totally changes the entire story from the book for no real reason.
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Scott has come out and said that Deckard is definitely a replicant, but some people disagree and say he isn't.

Regarding Ford in this, I would think he would just have a cameo and not be the central character. He might not even be Deckard (or a Deckard).
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The reason some people disagree is that making Deckard a replicant completely undermines the point of the movie.
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Yea, I know. I just do not agree with Deckard being one. It totally changes the entire story from the book for no real reason.
In the book "Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner" by Paul Sammon, Hampton Fancher said the idea of Deckard being a replicant sort of invented itself. In his script the final shot was Deckard at the piano and his hand suddenly does a clinch much like Batty's did. He wanted it to be more ambivalent whereas Ridley wanted it to be more obvious.

But the film is what it is and we have to move forward with the understanding that Deckard is a replicant. I've seen it mentioned that he's a Nexus-7 without a designated lifespan or the strength of the Nexus-6. More human than human.
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I think the idea should be ambiguous as to whether Deckard is or isn't a Replicant. So basically the view is that there isn't much separating Humans from Replicants, and each has just as much right to live.
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In the book "Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner" by Paul Sammon, Hampton Fancher said the idea of Deckard being a replicant sort of invented itself. In his script the final shot was Deckard at the piano and his hand suddenly does a clinch much like Batty's did. He wanted it to be more ambivalent whereas Ridley wanted it to be more obvious.

But the film is what it is and we have to move forward with the understanding that Deckard is a replicant. I've seen it mentioned that he's a Nexus-7 without a designated lifespan or the strength of the Nexus-6. More human than human.
But the point is that he's less human than the Replicants until the end where he takes his chances with Rachel. If he's literally less than human, the theme falls apart.
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But the point is that he's less human than the Replicants until the end where he takes his chances with Rachel. If he's literally less than human, the theme falls apart.
Yeah, it really does really fuck up the theme that the movie revolves around.

The later versions of Blade Runner, with the unicorn and Deckard's red glowing eyes, practically beats you over the head that Deckard is a replicant.

Something like the above-mentioned hand clinch is more ambiguous, and better ties into the theme of where replicant ends and where human begins. Is Deckard a replicant? Are replicants humans?
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Re: Ridley Scott Ready To Direct New Version Of 'Blade Runner'

I watched the "Final Cut" with my roommate two nights ago and I asked him if he thought Deckard was human or a replicant. He asked why anybody would think he's a replicant. Even I didn't catch many allusions to the fact and I've seen the film at least five times, I hardly think that version beats it over your head. Aside from the eyes and the unicorn, what other clues are there?


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But the point is that he's less human than the Replicants until the end where he takes his chances with Rachel. If he's literally less than human, the theme falls apart.
I don't know if the theme falls apart... It just changes the perspective of the questions the film raises. It's still about how one defines humanity. The idea that Deckard might become more human after realizing he's a replicant doesn't hold any significance or impact for you? Either way I think the thematic importance of Deckard's humanity is about the ambiguity, not the answer of what he really is.
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It's important because the Replicants have to act in contrast to the one who's hunting them. The Replicants, these supposedly less-than-human beings, are killing to survive. They've been denied a true life and they're revenging themselves upon those responsible. Deckard, a human, is killing because he's told to. He doesn't even want to. He just does it. If he's a Replicant, then where is the contrast?

If it were really left ambiguous, I'd be fine with it. But Ridley Scott has stupidly said it point blank in at least one interview that Deckard is a Replicant. Well, thanks but no thanks Ridley. I don't know how someone can make one of the best films of all time and then fuck up something so central to the main theme.
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If it were really left ambiguous, I'd be fine with it. But Ridley Scott has stupidly said it point blank in at least one interview that Deckard is a Replicant. Well, thanks but no thanks Ridley.
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it not true. Deckard is a Replicant. I and many of this film's ardent fans žee that as being to the film's benefit. The implications it raises go far beyond a simple question of, "Is he or isn't he?".
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The implication it raises is that Ridley didn't think it through when he made that decision.

And this is, along with Blue Velvet, my second favorite film of all time, so I would call myself an ardent fan as well.
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It's important because the Replicants have to act in contrast to the one who's hunting them. The Replicants, these supposedly less-than-human beings, are killing to survive. They've been denied a true life and they're revenging themselves upon those responsible. Deckard, a human, is killing because he's told to. He doesn't even want to. He just does it. If he's a Replicant, then where is the contrast?

If it were really left ambiguous, I'd be fine with it. But Ridley Scott has stupidly said it point blank in at least one interview that Deckard is a Replicant. Well, thanks but no thanks Ridley. I don't know how someone can make one of the best films of all time and then fuck up something so central to the main theme.
This.

Then again, Scott has never been the epitome of profundity. I've always thought that Blade Runner is so thematically rich in spite of its director.

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And Richard Donner has said that he doesn't think that the kid from The Omen was the Antichrist, just a very naughty boy. Some directors don't get their own movies.
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