MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
#1126
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I personally agree however I don't know if that will be a sustainable business model. Think of MP more like insurance. In order for those of us that heavily use the service to continue to do so we need a bunch of subscribers to even that out. We ultimately want MP to succeed and I think their unlimited plan attracts a lot of people who might not ultimately use it that much. If it's a sustainable business model at 4 movies for $10 then I'm all for it. But I don't think it will be. What we really need is for theater owners to finally relinquish and admit that MP drives a lot of extra business and to cut them in on a share of the concessions/discounted tickets. I think that is what will really keep MP afloat and a viable business. They just have to do a better job of demonstrating that. It's so popular now and the profit margins on concessions are incredibly high it seems to me it would be of immense benefit to give MP a 10% share and keep that going. But sometimes pride gets in the way of good business decisions. Honestly I think everyone should be rooting for MP; movie goers, theaters, and studios all have been benefiting and I think the theaters and studios should give some of that back to keep them around.
#1127
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
That is what I find interesting about this. I, myself, don't generally use it for blockbusters. I won't be using it for Avengers, Deadpool, Solo, etc. That is the one downfall about having only reserve theatres around me. If you don't get your ticket in advance, you're not seeing it opening weekend. I know I could just wait and go during the week, but I'd rather just pay and see it opening night.
Though, the points I earn with AMC from seeing all the other movies gives me rewards to essentially see the blockbusters for free or a discount.
Still, the pass has already paid for itself for me. It is a great supplemental tool.
Though, the points I earn with AMC from seeing all the other movies gives me rewards to essentially see the blockbusters for free or a discount.
Still, the pass has already paid for itself for me. It is a great supplemental tool.
#1128
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Hmmm. Guess I am going to have to rethink the service once my current annual plan is up. In the meantime, summer's coming and I expect I'll be seeing at least two movies a week, at least.
#1129
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
That is what I find interesting about this. I, myself, don't generally use it for blockbusters. I won't be using it for Avengers, Deadpool, Solo, etc. That is the one downfall about having only reserve theatres around me. If you don't get your ticket in advance, you're not seeing it opening weekend. I know I could just wait and go during the week, but I'd rather just pay and see it opening night.
Though, the points I earn with AMC from seeing all the other movies gives me rewards to essentially see the blockbusters for free or a discount.
Still, the pass has already paid for itself for me. It is a great supplemental tool.
Though, the points I earn with AMC from seeing all the other movies gives me rewards to essentially see the blockbusters for free or a discount.
Still, the pass has already paid for itself for me. It is a great supplemental tool.
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#1131
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Didn't see this posted yesterday, but might be of interest.
MoviePass Parent’s Shares Crushed After Disclosing Pricing of Stock Sale
http://variety.com/2018/digital/news...ng-1202758441/
MoviePass Parent’s Shares Crushed After Disclosing Pricing of Stock Sale
http://variety.com/2018/digital/news...ng-1202758441/
#1132
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
#1133
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
As far as i know, i'm under the monthly $9.99 ,a movie a day plan. Hopefully they don't change that for existing customers. Haven't gotten any email notices about changes
#1134
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I'm not particularly concerned about violating the Stubs TOS, because it's all bullshit. AMC gets their money either way.
#1135
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I thought I saw that they were either wiping out or threatening to wipe out the points of people they were catching.
#1136
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I'm not sure how exactly they would catch me if I'm using the kiosk, and I've never had any points taken away.
If they did though, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I would probably never even go to AMC theaters if not for MoviePass, and I certainly wouldn't pay for a Stubs membership.
If they did though, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. I would probably never even go to AMC theaters if not for MoviePass, and I certainly wouldn't pay for a Stubs membership.
#1137
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Oh, right, if you're not paying for Stubs then it's not much of a risk.
#1138
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I pay for Stubs, but it's once a year, and it pays for itself quickly. If they took away my points I just wouldn't pay for it again, because I would rarely go to AMC if not for MoviePass, and if I can't earn points on MoviePass transactions, there's no point in keeping Stubs.
#1139
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Hoping MoviePass doesn't change for current members during summer. They will get clobbered. We always wondered how long it would last.
#1140
DVD Talk Legend & 2021 TOTY Winner
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
They promised that the terms for people who signed up when they went to $9.95 per month were good for at least a year, so we'll see if they're good on their word I guess. As much as they stated that on social media, I don't think it was ever officially stated in the terms of our membership agreements.
#1141
DVD Talk Hero
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Many times the terms will have some legal wording saying terms can change whenever they feel like changing them. It's bad business but it could happen depending on bad they are hemorrhaging money. If it does go a year, I'll be happy.
#1142
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Didn't see this posted yesterday, but might be of interest.
MoviePass Parent’s Shares Crushed After Disclosing Pricing of Stock Sale
http://variety.com/2018/digital/news...ng-1202758441/
MoviePass Parent’s Shares Crushed After Disclosing Pricing of Stock Sale
http://variety.com/2018/digital/news...ng-1202758441/
#1143
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I mean, if this were profitable don't you think a chain like AMC would have tried it? The rumor was that they were going to but nowhere near this price point. They're big enough that if they put out the same terms as Moviepass they could cut them out, but instead they're basically laughing at them and taking their money.
The rumor was AMC was getting ready to release their own all you can eat type of plan but at a much higher pricing structure. They're bitter because MP beat them to the punch and significantly undercut them. They say that MP is cheapening the theater going experience and that they are underselling a movie ticket thus driving down consumer expectations on how much they are willing to pay. I don't agree. I think they are driving consumers to the theater more as well as encouraging people to spend more at concessions since their ticket was "free".
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I personally agree however I don't know if that will be a sustainable business model. Think of MP more like insurance. In order for those of us that heavily use the service to continue to do so we need a bunch of subscribers to even that out. We ultimately want MP to succeed and I think their unlimited plan attracts a lot of people who might not ultimately use it that much. If it's a sustainable business model at 4 movies for $10 then I'm all for it. But I don't think it will be. What we really need is for theater owners to finally relinquish and admit that MP drives a lot of extra business and to cut them in on a share of the concessions/discounted tickets. I think that is what will really keep MP afloat and a viable business. They just have to do a better job of demonstrating that. It's so popular now and the profit margins on concessions are incredibly high it seems to me it would be of immense benefit to give MP a 10% share and keep that going. But sometimes pride gets in the way of good business decisions. Honestly I think everyone should be rooting for MP; movie goers, theaters, and studios all have been benefiting and I think the theaters and studios should give some of that back to keep them around.
While this service may provide an uptick in an exhibitor’s business, I don’t see a reason for an exhibitor to give a cut of his/her share. Exhibitors are already essentially sub-letters to the studios ... the exhibitor builds a building, buys the equipment, pays the staff and utilities, pays for maintenance — yet the studio takes the lion’s share of the ticket. Hence, expensive concessions. Now you have another company trying to demand a cut.
This is more like the local business owner who built a sports complex in a nearby city. When he wasn’t generating as much revenue as he expected, he started trying to shake down the local hotels and restaurants claiming they “owed” him a cut of their profits for all of the business HE is bringing them.
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I mean, if this were profitable don't you think a chain like AMC would have tried it? The rumor was that they were going to but nowhere near this price point. They're big enough that if they put out the same terms as Moviepass they could cut them out, but instead they're basically laughing at them and taking their money.
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I saw someone on Twitter asking about this 4 movies per month (new subscribers) vs. 1 movie per day and Movie Pass responded and said your current plan is unaffected.
Well, if that's the case then new subscribers are getting shafted and they get this bonus useless IHeart Radio trial?
I guess we'll see how long this lasts considering the recent financial reports don't look encouraging.
Unfortunately due to my work schedule this month, I've only had time to see 2 movies.
Well, if that's the case then new subscribers are getting shafted and they get this bonus useless IHeart Radio trial?
I guess we'll see how long this lasts considering the recent financial reports don't look encouraging.
Unfortunately due to my work schedule this month, I've only had time to see 2 movies.
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
That Variety article sounds even worse than the headline implies.
I still find it laughable that people think the theaters should feel any sense of obligation to MoviePass’s daily operations or long term existence. It’s like saying my locally owned gym should be giving McDonalds a cut of its profits because McDonalds drives business to them.
As for AMC’s take ... please shoot me for agreeing with those rat-bastards ... yes, MP is cheapening the movie going experience. When MP finally fails and goes away (which it will, it is not sustainable) you will not continue to go to 6-10 (or more) movies a month at full ticket price. In fact, you are likely to go to fewer movies than you did before MP because of the percieved increase in cost. Before MP you saw $10 (or whatever your local price is) as the normal cost. Afterwards you will see that same price as exhorbitant.
That said, AMC is grossly overpriced (in my area) on its tickets. I’ve been using MP to see shows at AMC for convenience for $9 matinee tickets. AMC is the only chain in Springfield. Fortunately I either travel for work or don’t mind driving to another city. Every other city I go to has matinees for $4 - $6 and most provide a far better guest experience, lower concession prices with better quality, and superior presentation with better seating accommodations. I already saw AMC as overpriced. However, for those who do not have options to compare to, the “norm” will become “high” when the party ends.
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As for AMC’s take ... please shoot me for agreeing with those rat-bastards ... yes, MP is cheapening the movie going experience. When MP finally fails and goes away (which it will, it is not sustainable) you will not continue to go to 6-10 (or more) movies a month at full ticket price. In fact, you are likely to go to fewer movies than you did before MP because of the percieved increase in cost. Before MP you saw $10 (or whatever your local price is) as the normal cost. Afterwards you will see that same price as exhorbitant.
That said, AMC is grossly overpriced (in my area) on its tickets. I’ve been using MP to see shows at AMC for convenience for $9 matinee tickets. AMC is the only chain in Springfield. Fortunately I either travel for work or don’t mind driving to another city. Every other city I go to has matinees for $4 - $6 and most provide a far better guest experience, lower concession prices with better quality, and superior presentation with better seating accommodations. I already saw AMC as overpriced. However, for those who do not have options to compare to, the “norm” will become “high” when the party ends.
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
I still find it laughable that people think the theaters should feel any sense of obligation to MoviePass’s daily operations or long term existence. It’s like saying my locally owned gym should be giving McDonalds a cut of its profits because McDonalds drives business to them.
As for AMC’s take ... please shoot me for agreeing with those rat-bastards ... yes, MP is cheapening the movie going experience. When MP finally fails and goes away (which it will, it is not sustainable) you will not continue to go to 6-10 (or more) movies a month at full ticket price. In fact, you are likely to go to fewer movies than you did before MP because of the percieved increase in cost. Before MP you saw $10 (or whatever your local price is) as the normal cost. Afterwards you will see that same price as exhorbitant.
#1150
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re: MoviePass... would it work for you? [UPDATE: THE DEAD SHALL RISE]
Every user will be different, but if MP fails, the theaters are losing a ton of money on me at least. Without MoviePass, I spend maybe $40 a year at theaters. With MoviePass, in six months, theaters have received at least $500 from MoviePass, and another $100 or so on concessions from just me. There has to be some sort of possible compromise to make it a win for all parties.