CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS (2011) (dir. Herzog)
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CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS (2011) (dir. Herzog)
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1664894/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1664894/
Werner Herzog gains exclusive access to film inside the Chauvet caves of Southern France, capturing the oldest known pictorial creations of humankind in their astonishing natural setting.
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Re: CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS (2011) (dir. Herzog)
Man I've been so stoked to see this since I became aware of it a while back.
The reviews have been heaping praise on it. It was over 90% on RT last time I checked, with excellent reviews galore.
The reviews have been heaping praise on it. It was over 90% on RT last time I checked, with excellent reviews galore.
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Are they releaseing a 2D version of this? MY local art house is getting this on Friday but I don't think they have a 3D screen.
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Best 3D movie of the year!
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Looks great though and I'm glad it's being put into context with pieces outside of the cave with the atlatl practice.
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I saw this the other day. It was very cool to see the cave paintings in 3d. This was my first 3d experience and I liked it a lot.
The film did drag a bit though.
The film did drag a bit though.
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I saw this last night and loved it--very moving. Still not sold on 3D though--I thought it worked well for the cave sequences, but overall, another dark 3D projection that makes me feel like I'm watching a movie underwater.
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well not only were the cave shots perfect in 3D, but the one shot of individual standing in front a stack of books extending to the back wall (with a vanishing point) conveys a shot of depth to excellent effect - I'm miffed though at AMC Hoffman where I saw it - they projected the film at 2.35 when in fact it's a 1.85 aspect ratio film - essentially what they did was cut off the top and bottom of the image - I'm sure for the next screening that day it was corrected since I had brought it up to the manager ...
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Re: CAVE OF FORGOTTEN DREAMS (2011) (dir. Herzog)
well not only were the cave shots perfect in 3D, but the one shot of individual standing in front a stack of books extending to the back wall (with a vanishing point) conveys a shot of depth to excellent effect - I'm miffed though at AMC Hoffman where I saw it - they projected the film at 2.35 when in fact it's a 1.85 aspect ratio film - essentially what they did was cut off the top and bottom of the image - I'm sure for the next screening that day it was corrected since I had brought it up to the manager ...
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Excellent film, I thought that the 3d in the cave sequences was fantastic, that coupled with the way the lights were constantly in motion gave the cave sequences an extra sense of awe.
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The sequences showing the cave art in 3-D were fantastic, but they’re nearly ruined by this truly grating dissonant string score that is plastered over everything. There’s one long sequence where the camera moves over the paintings with the music blasting and I just wanted to see them in silence.
The rest of the movie is kind of dull, though. Herzog has some interesting insights here and there, including the way these images are “proto-cinema,” but not the rest of the French and German “experts” recruited for this. What bothers me is that no art historian was consulted. I would like to have heard these paintings discussed as works of art. Also, no one explains how these paintings were made, i.e. what kind of materials were used to make them, what kind of tools were used, why the images have lasted so long, etc.
If one of the interviewees did indeed have an art history background, it wasn't made clear to me. I'm really not sure what their expertise was. There actually was one interesting interviewee--a young guy who used to be a juggler/unicyclist at a circus. I forget what his current position is, but he makes a point about how it's necessary to compare this art with examples of more recent rock art found around the world (Australia, the American Southwest, South Africa, etc.). I wish the film had taken him up on that.
The 3-D was very dark. I wound up taking the glasses off during the talking heads sequences because the image was about 40-50% brighter without the glasses. The image was blurred, but brighter. I wonder if 2-D isn’t the best way to see this.
I was very drained by the end of it and somewhat disoriented, esp. when I went down to the basement level of the theater where the bathrooms were. The walls were black, jutting stone and it was very dark and I half expected to see cave art on them. (It was the IFC Center in Manhattan.)
The rest of the movie is kind of dull, though. Herzog has some interesting insights here and there, including the way these images are “proto-cinema,” but not the rest of the French and German “experts” recruited for this. What bothers me is that no art historian was consulted. I would like to have heard these paintings discussed as works of art. Also, no one explains how these paintings were made, i.e. what kind of materials were used to make them, what kind of tools were used, why the images have lasted so long, etc.
If one of the interviewees did indeed have an art history background, it wasn't made clear to me. I'm really not sure what their expertise was. There actually was one interesting interviewee--a young guy who used to be a juggler/unicyclist at a circus. I forget what his current position is, but he makes a point about how it's necessary to compare this art with examples of more recent rock art found around the world (Australia, the American Southwest, South Africa, etc.). I wish the film had taken him up on that.
The 3-D was very dark. I wound up taking the glasses off during the talking heads sequences because the image was about 40-50% brighter without the glasses. The image was blurred, but brighter. I wonder if 2-D isn’t the best way to see this.
I was very drained by the end of it and somewhat disoriented, esp. when I went down to the basement level of the theater where the bathrooms were. The walls were black, jutting stone and it was very dark and I half expected to see cave art on them. (It was the IFC Center in Manhattan.)
Last edited by Ash Ketchum; 05-25-11 at 06:56 AM.