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MoviePage 04-23-11 03:09 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10738283)
Of course, that was also the year they gave the Supporting Actress award to 11 year-old Anna Paquin.

Yes, but that was a surprise and was considered to be a fairly major upset (Winona Ryder was widely expected to win), whereas Jones was not a surprise or an upset choice. She also had the cuteness factor on her side, and I think we can agree that Fiennes didn't. There were no career achievement possibilities in Paquin's category either.

Plus, I'd argue that Paquin's competition was extremely weak and that she did in fact give the best performance in her category, whereas Fiennes may or may not have been the best in his very strong category:

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Anna Paquin -- The Piano
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
Winona Ryder -- The Age of Innocence
Emma Thompson -- In the Name of the Father

RoyalTea 04-23-11 06:45 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"

Ash Ketchum 04-23-11 07:40 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 10738045)
Malkovich was robbed!

Ditto.

Michael Corvin 04-23-11 08:39 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 10738436)
Yes, but that was a surprise and was considered to be a fairly major upset (Winona Ryder was widely expected to win), whereas Jones was not a surprise or an upset choice. She also had the cuteness factor on her side, and I think we can agree that Fiennes didn't. There were no career achievement possibilities in Paquin's category either.

Plus, I'd argue that Paquin's competition was extremely weak and that she did in fact give the best performance in her category, whereas Fiennes may or may not have been the best in his very strong category:

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Anna Paquin -- The Piano
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
Winona Ryder -- The Age of Innocence
Emma Thompson -- In the Name of the Father

Could you imagine being subjected to "From Oscar Winner Rosier Perez" for the past 20 years? :lol:

Groucho 04-23-11 08:49 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by RoyalTea (Post 10738462)
Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"

:thumbsup: I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.

Solid Snake 04-23-11 09:12 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by RoyalTea (Post 10738462)
Is it that difficult to type out "Schindler's List" instead of "SL?"

this coming from the guy that made poll out of that?

RoyalTea 04-23-11 09:36 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10738551)
this coming from the guy that made poll out of that?

Yes. Was I too subtle?

auto 04-23-11 01:35 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10738531)
:thumbsup: I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.

rotfl

DonnachaOne 04-25-11 03:19 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
It's because Fiennes is British, and they never seem to win Oscars. I wish the Academy weren't so anglophobic.

Double_Oh_7 04-25-11 04:54 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10738125)
Fiennes is very talented, but apparently not good at making friends in the industry and 'working the business' to get awards. He avoids things like that to concentrate on work. Those award shows are more popularity contests than about the work.

Well, there you go. If Ralph Fiennes doesn't care if he won or not, why should you??

Pizza 04-25-11 05:26 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Numanoid (Post 10738379)
Tommy Lee Jones was, like he always does, playing Tommy Lee Jones. Yawn.

He was the least of the lot that should have won.

That pretty much sums up every actor and I don't really have an issue with that. There's a skill and craft at creating your on-screen persona. Clint Eastwood, Robert DeNiro, Humphrey Bogart. Tommy Lee Jones was at his peak in The Fugitive and he nailed it. I love all five nominated performances so I'd be happy with any of them winning.

darkhawk 04-25-11 09:03 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
It was a tough pick from the 5, but I thought John Malkovich should have gotten it. But that's my opinion.

Dr Mabuse 04-25-11 09:07 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
Malkovich was incredible in that film and elevated the entire movie with his performance.

NIMH Rat 04-25-11 11:30 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role. Sadistic pudgy jerks with a hard-on for sniper rifles.

Postlethwaite deserved it that year.

Dr Mabuse 04-25-11 11:34 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat (Post 10742151)
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role. Sadistic pudgy jerks with a hard-on for sniper rifles.

Yes, Malkovich's character spent the entire film building a sniper rifle to use as the tool for an assassination.

Both roles were essentially the same.

Good points, real insight there.

:rolleyes:

MoviePage 04-26-11 12:11 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat (Post 10742151)
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role.

This is very incorrect.

DonnachaOne 04-26-11 05:20 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat (Post 10742151)
Malkovich and Fiennes were basically playing the same role.

This is like saying Postlethwaite and DiCaprio played the same role, since they talked funny and had small living quarters with a long-haired immediate family member.

Howie2000 04-26-11 05:56 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by jmu878 (Post 10738339)
For a while there 3-6 Mafia had more than Scorsese. What does this say about the Oscars? They've always been a big joke.

3-6 Mafia penned a well written song for an acclaimed film that was an essential part of said film. If I was a betting man I would say their win will be held in higher regard over time then Scorcese getting a lifetime achievement win for The Departed.

Solid Snake 04-26-11 05:59 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Howie2000 (Post 10742319)
3-6 Mafia penned a well written song for an acclaimed film that was an essential part of said film. If I was a betting man I would say their win will be held in higher regard over time then Scorcese getting a lifetime achievement win for The Departed.

problem is that nobody talks about 3-6 Mafia like they do Scorsese...also...who still talks about 3-6 Mafia?

and yes...that The Departed win was a lifetime thing...it was solid...just not top tier Scorsese...but his solid is still better than most top tier work from other directors.

james2025a 04-26-11 08:10 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by MoviePage (Post 10738436)

Holly Hunter -- The Firm
Rosie Perez -- Fearless
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Wow......just seeing Rosie Perez nominated for an Oscar makes my jaw drop. And Holly Hunter is a fine actress, but in the Firm she was utterly average. This really shows how poor a year it was for the Oscars.

As for TLJ winning over RF, well i thought he was good in the Fugitive....but not Oscar glory goodness. Its true what someone said about it basically all being a popularity contest on who can kiss ass the best in the industry.

NIMH Rat 04-26-11 11:29 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by DonnachaOne (Post 10742312)
This is like saying Postlethwaite and DiCaprio played the same role, since they talked funny and had small living quarters with a long-haired immediate family member.

:lol: Exactly.

Unforgiven1998 04-29-11 08:37 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 
I agree Fiennes should have won, or Postlethwaite. Jones has given better performance particularly No Country For Old Men

runnersdialzero 04-29-11 11:30 AM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Dr Mabuse (Post 10738125)
'Schindler's List' was a decent film, not spectacular, and it rides on the reputation that Spielberg is supposedly a 'genius', and the subject matter of the holocaust. It's just not that great a film, and Spielberg is just not that great a director. He's a financially successful director and there's a huge difference.

One of the dumbest things I've ever read on any message board. And I've read a lot of dumb things.

dhmac 04-30-11 12:52 PM

Re: How the hell did Ralph Fiennes not win best supporting actor for SL???
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10738531)
:thumbsup: I'm getting a little weary of the invented acronyms for movies that require me to click into threads just to see what's being discussed.

Yeah, when I clicked this one I was thinking that "SL" stood for "Shakespeare in Love" because I mixed up the Fiennes brothers' first names (it was Joseph who was in that one) and thinking that "hey, that wasn't a great performance at all!"


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