pre-9/11 innocence
01-15-11, 03:46 PM
#26
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
Hard for me to see a difference in feature films. In my senior yr some of us made an opening for our video which featured the class president being held hostage by terrorists - I'd say there's a zero chance of showing/making that in schools today. (even then we had to censor parts of it)
01-15-11, 03:51 PM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
I was watching an action movie from the 80's the other night, though I can't remember which one. But one thing that struck me was the wanton killing of innocent people in the crossfire between the hero and the villain. I think it was in a mall food court, but during the gunfight the camera made sure to show that people just sitting there eating were getting shot in the head and chest and so on.
I noticed that "The Corruptor" (late 90's) had an excessive amount of bystander violence. Face/Off was another one. What about all of those dead prison guards, just doin' their jobs?
01-15-11, 05:26 PM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
I don't get it at all. It seems like you're intentionally painting the pre-9/11 movies with broad strokes. Thematically a lot of the pre-9/11 movies deal with as much moral ambiguity as do the post 9/11 movies. Take The Thin Red Line. You say it's about "fallen heroes." I think it's a complex examination of the nature of war, and the thoughts of the people who participate in it. For example, several times the "enemy" (the Japanese) is portrayed every bit the victim as the good guys (Americans). I just find it hard to believe a movie with such a futile view of war is just about war heroes.
Anyway this is just one example.
Anyway this is just one example.
01-15-11, 06:40 PM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
I can't believe how innocent pre 9/11 films were. Look at "The Perfect Storm" (2000) with its theme of "Me like boats!" and then in 2004 we had "Master and Commander" where boats could KILL YOU!
01-16-11, 03:15 AM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
I was watching an action movie from the 80's the other night, though I can't remember which one. But one thing that struck me was the wanton killing of innocent people in the crossfire between the hero and the villain. I think it was in a mall food court, but during the gunfight the camera made sure to show that people just sitting there eating were getting shot in the head and chest and so on.
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01-16-11, 03:33 AM
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01-16-11, 03:36 AM
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01-16-11, 04:01 AM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
The only real shift from the pre 9/11 era to the post 9/11 era that springs to mind is that James Cameron lost interest in a sequel to True Lies. Terrorists simply weren't funny anymore.
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01-16-11, 10:02 AM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
*sigh* I'm sorry...I just miss good Arnold flicks....
01-16-11, 10:37 AM
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Re: pre-9/11 innocence
I'm guessing the OP went through puberty during 9/11. Most things look "darker" when you're a teenager. You read Catcher in the Rye and think everyone's a phony, the government is lying to you, etc. etc.
