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Old 01-12-11, 08:45 PM
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First: Kanye West's short film runaway is a stunning work of surrealist art. I'm not even a fan and I think it's a great piece of work.

Second: Aronofski is narcissistic prick. This would be OK if he were a genuine artist but his talent does not match his pretentions.

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

This is a great article
http://www.nypress.com/article-8327-...hollywood.html

And for anyone who is interested, here is what Whites editor Jerry Portwood has to say about the event
http://www.nypress.com/blog-8067-con...-the-game.html
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

are....are you serious?

I don't get it. Are you joking?
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
First: Kanye West's short film runaway is a stunning work of surrealist art. I'm not even a fan and I think it's a great piece of work.

Second: Aronofski is narcissistic prick. This would be OK if he were a genuine artist but his talent does not match his pretentions.

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

This is a great article
http://www.nypress.com/article-8327-...hollywood.html

And for anyone who is interested, here is what Whites editor Jerry Portwood has to say about the event
http://www.nypress.com/blog-8067-con...-the-game.html
You really shouldn't type with your mouth full. *GURKLE GURKLE GURKLE*
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

Strevlac, please back up your parenthetical attack by providing the titles of three Warner Brothers 2010 movies that Lisa Schwartzbaum has praised, making her a contrarian to overwhelmingly negative reviews from other critics.
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Strevlac is Armond White, that's the only reasonable explanation.
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
First: Kanye West's short film runaway is a stunning work of surrealist art. I'm not even a fan and I think it's a great piece of work.

Second: Aronofski is narcissistic prick. This would be OK if he were a genuine artist but his talent does not match his pretentions.

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

This is a great article
http://www.nypress.com/article-8327-...hollywood.html

And for anyone who is interested, here is what Whites editor Jerry Portwood has to say about the event
http://www.nypress.com/blog-8067-con...-the-game.html
"Wouldn't know great art"

Possibly, but they certainly can detect crap, something White seems incapable of doing. Plus White's habit of blatantly calling people stupid is incredibly juvenile ("No intelligent person really thinks The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love, Chocolat, Cider House Rules, In the Bedroom or Chicago are good movies." for instance. From a man that raved over the unwatchable War and equally terrible Takers.)
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
First: Kanye West's short film runaway is a stunning work of surrealist art. I'm not even a fan and I think it's a great piece of work.

Second: Aronofski is narcissistic prick. This would be OK if he were a genuine artist but his talent does not match his pretentions.

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

This is a great article
http://www.nypress.com/article-8327-...hollywood.html

And for anyone who is interested, here is what Whites editor Jerry Portwood has to say about the event
http://www.nypress.com/blog-8067-con...-the-game.html
Does Aronofski direct for The Asylum?

Also, your praise for Kanye is setting my "simpleton blurb" detector off.
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Originally Posted by Boba Fett
Does Aronofski direct for The Asylum?

Also, your praise for Kanye is setting my "simpleton blurb" detector off.
I think you're calling a large percentage of the critical music community simpletons there. But perhaps that is your aim. I'm sure you'll come back with some witty rejoinder saying that it was, anyway.
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)
Great art like Jonah Hex, Little Man, and Mr. 3000?
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Why the hell is this a big deal? Do you think the NYC Film Critics chose him as a host expecting he'd play nice? This is a publicity stunt, and not by White.
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Originally Posted by Strevlac
First: Kanye West's short film runaway is a stunning work of surrealist art. I'm not even a fan and I think it's a great piece of work.

Second: Aronofski is narcissistic prick. This would be OK if he were a genuine artist but his talent does not match his pretentions.

Third: Armond White, despite his eccentricities, is an intelligent writer whose puts the current mainstream critical community to shame. Which is not hard as 99% of this community is comprised of simpleton blurb writers who wouldn't know great art if it hit them on the head in the form of an anvil from the Acme corp. or are afraid of being too harsh on certain movies for fear of losing their jobs (Lisa Schwartzbaum, ahem)

This is a great article
http://www.nypress.com/article-8327-...hollywood.html

And for anyone who is interested, here is what Whites editor Jerry Portwood has to say about the event
http://www.nypress.com/blog-8067-con...-the-game.html
^ Possibly one of the funniest post I have seen.

It's done in the same retardation inducing way that AW does his 'reviews'.

Take something that either, A) you know nothing about, or B) know a bit about but say the exact opposite of what you think the 'mainstream' people will say, then present it as fact, even though you and everyone who breathes is quite aware your full of shit.

Even if you believe AW is a "intelligent writer" (who knows, maybe you have had a severe brain injury), how can you even begin to stand up for his attacks, or his clear contrary behavior?

I mentioned his good review, bad review of 'The Hurt Locker'. Can you explain the reason this happened to such a 'brilliant writer'?

I must say I agree with Anomynous' ascertation of this guy's post. That really has to be the reason, I mean, even retards are not that bad, are they?
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Ive been agreeing with white more and more lately. Whenever these big acclaimed movies come out that im not agreeing with the hype, i can read his review and he will get it. Problem is when he praises crap. But i think in a way he is an artist too, trying to get the reader to look at "good" and "bad" movies differently.
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He is a hack. He's just a hack with a decent vocabulary.
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Originally Posted by CloverClover
Ive been agreeing with white more and more lately. Whenever these big acclaimed movies come out that im not agreeing with the hype, i can read his review and he will get it. Problem is when he praises crap. But i think in a way he is an artist too, trying to get the reader to look at "good" and "bad" movies differently.
he's....a critic. He's not an artist. Not even w/ words.
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by foofighters7
^ Possibly one of the funniest post I have seen.

It's done in the same retardation inducing way that AW does his 'reviews'.

Take something that either, A) you know nothing about, or B) know a bit about but say the exact opposite of what you think the 'mainstream' people will say, then present it as fact, even though you and everyone who breathes is quite aware your full of shit.

Even if you believe AW is a "intelligent writer" (who knows, maybe you have had a severe brain injury), how can you even begin to stand up for his attacks, or his clear contrary behavior?

I mentioned his good review, bad review of 'The Hurt Locker'. Can you explain the reason this happened to such a 'brilliant writer'?

I must say I agree with Anomynous' ascertation of this guy's post. That really has to be the reason, I mean, even retards are not that bad, are they?
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Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
Great art like Jonah Hex, Little Man, and Mr. 3000?
He loves great trash as well. He would be the first to admit it. Why does Little Man deserve such rabid critical scorn while the equally vacuous but incredibly pretentious Inception and Black Swan has everyone creaming their pants? They are all trash, but Little Man knows it and plays it for all it's worth.

Sure Armonds style can rub people the wrong way but I have to wonder where the white-hot hatred of this man comes from. Sometimes I think it might have something to do with his conservative politics and skin color. Pauline Kael could but be as much of a bitch as White, if not moreso. Not everyone liked her either but Jesus the hate for Armond is off the charts.
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strevlac = armond white?
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strevlac = armond white?
You guys get a lot of mileage out of that one huh?

You guys take critical opinions way too personally...I love reading film criticism and I never hated a critic for writing a negative column about a movie I love. I would dislike a critic because of shallow, stupid writing but not differences of opinion. I disagree with lots of Armonds reviews but his columns are the cream of the crop when it comes to serious film criticism. Especially compared with 99% of the rotten tomatoes crowd. It's like the Romper Room over there.
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
He loves great trash as well. He would be the first to admit it. Why does Little Man deserve such rabid critical scorn while the equally vacuous but incredibly pretentious Inception and Black Swan has everyone creaming their pants? They are all trash, but Little Man knows it and plays it for all it's worth.

Sure Armonds style can rub people the wrong way but I have to wonder where the white-hot hatred of this man comes from. Sometimes I think it might have something to do with his conservative politics and skin color. Pauline Kael could but be as much of a bitch as White, if not moreso. Not everyone liked her either but Jesus the hate for Armond is off the charts.
Obvious troll is obvious. All I need to know from you. Good night and pound sand.
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Re: Armond White Emcees NY Critics Awards, Insults Winners

Originally Posted by Strevlac
You guys get a lot of mileage out of that one huh?

You guys take critical opinions way too personally...I love reading film criticism and I never hated a critic for writing a negative column about a movie I love. I would dislike a critic because of shallow, stupid writing but not differences of opinion. I disagree with lots of Armonds reviews but his columns are the cream of the crop when it comes to serious film criticism. Especially compared with 99% of the rotten tomatoes crowd. It's like the Romper Room over there.
I'd rather read a shitty review of something like Black Swan than an eloquently-worded thesis on the triumphs of Jonah Hex.
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When critics get personal with who they attack - a director, an actor, or someone else in the filmmaking food chain, that's when I begin to hate them. I've never even heard of Armond White before this thread but from what's been said here it's safe to assume that he's exactly the type to do such a thing.
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Obvious troll is obvious. All I need to know from you. Good night and pound sand.
You're right. No one on the internet has ever hated conservative politics or a black person with attitude. Never....
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
I'd rather read a shitty review of something like Black Swan than an eloquently-worded thesis on the triumphs of Jonah Hex.
Why?
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Originally Posted by Strevlac
You guys get a lot of mileage out of that one huh?

You guys take critical opinions way too personally...I love reading film criticism and I never hated a critic for writing a negative column about a movie I love. I would dislike a critic because of shallow, stupid writing but not differences of opinion. I disagree with lots of Armonds reviews but his columns are the cream of the crop when it comes to serious film criticism. Especially compared with 99% of the rotten tomatoes crowd. It's like the Romper Room over there.
The problem is, his reviews are not serious film criticism, they're pseudo-intellectual bullshit. I had an editing teacher in college just like him. He manages to twist everything to his agenda, instead of judging the films on their own merits.

And I should probably say this now, because I'm sure it'll get pounced on: I have no problem with intellectual discussions of films or any subject. In fact, I welcome it. I'm rejecting the assumption that White is writing with any semblance of intellectual rigor.
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Originally Posted by Strevlac
He loves great trash as well. He would be the first to admit it. Why does Little Man deserve such rabid critical scorn while the equally vacuous but incredibly pretentious Inception and Black Swan has everyone creaming their pants? They are all trash, but Little Man knows it and plays it for all it's worth.

Sure Armonds style can rub people the wrong way but I have to wonder where the white-hot hatred of this man comes from. Sometimes I think it might have something to do with his conservative politics and skin color. Pauline Kael could but be as much of a bitch as White, if not moreso. Not everyone liked her either but Jesus the hate for Armond is off the charts.
via dictionary.com on it's definition of trash...

–noun
1.anything worthless, useless, or discarded; rubbish.
2.foolish or pointless ideas, talk, or writing; nonsense.
3.a worthless or disreputable person.
4.such persons collectively.
5.literary or artistic material of poor or inferior quality.
6.broken or torn bits, as twigs, splinters, rags, or the like.
7.something that is broken or lopped off from anything in preparing it for use.
8.the refuse of sugar cane after the juice has been expressed.
9.Computers . an icon of a trash can that is used to delete files dragged onto it.
Little man...is a crappy film. With no redeeming qualities as a film. It's filmmaking bears no surprise or growth in the "art" of film. The plot and execution of it is predictable and boring. Everything's pretty much by the book in it's filming and editing. Nothing fantastic. I'm pretty sure they were going out there to make a good comedy. It's not. It's not the first time The Wayans failed at making a good comedy.

Inception's filmmaking takes surprising techniques in it's execution. And also furthers an influence in filmmaking construction and execution of what can be done in the frame. The plot isn't deep or excessive in depth but it's execution was pretty dang good.

Black Swan has a damn fine performance by Portman. While the plot is on basis: Obsession w/ one's art...again it's execution of a growing obsession in the art and madness from it is damn well presented. Within the frame it garners a lot of detail. The direction of it is extremely well controlled especially w/ the subject matter. A subject matter where one could easily fall into failure. The visual detail is well constructed as well. The editing is extremely well executed.

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