Superman: The Man of Steel (D: Snyder)
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Well, I hope you guys are right seeing how Singer's used it right off the bat. So you're saying the trailer will have different music when it's released in a couple of days? That sure looked like a completed trailer to me. Or are you just saying the score for the movie as a whole will be diifferent (whcih i expect anyway)?
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I think it's more fear than hate...imagine the world encounters its first extraterrestrial who is seemingly invincible...you wouldn't be worried? If not, that's not a very realistic response.
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So am I the only one who is beyond dissapointed that the score used in that trailer was from the thin red line? So there ya go to everyone who wanted something different from the first....here's...a score reused from another movie....and which has been in counteless others as well.
Oh wait, nearly all of them do that.
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They do, and while I am disappointed it's not the actual music, I'm glad they used something different than the Williams' score. When they used it for Superman Returns, everyone pretty much realized from the opening notes it was a Superman teaser. This helps the reboot establish its own identity from the onset with audiences.
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To think that *this* teaser trailer promised so much:
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...and ultimately became the butt of a joke near the end of "Ted".
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...and ultimately became the butt of a joke near the end of "Ted".
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Meh. The last Superman was a good try and certain failure. I thought the plot was acceptable. But the action scenes were a complete bore.
Snyder has had me since the Dawn of the Dead remake. He makes standout movies. Nothing special about a director who just makes what everyone else makes.
Snyder has had me since the Dawn of the Dead remake. He makes standout movies. Nothing special about a director who just makes what everyone else makes.
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So am I the only one who is beyond dissapointed that the score used in that trailer was from the thin red line? So there ya go to everyone who wanted something different from the first....here's...a score reused from another movie....and which has been in counteless others as well.
Almost every movie trailer uses a score from another movie.
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The hating him and alienation bit is merely Hollywood's way of trying to make the character connect because the jaded under-25s don't believe real heroes exist anymore. It's their fault everything has to be made so dark these days in tone...
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You do realize that half the planet would likely worship him as a God if he accepted that role?
The hating him and alienation bit is merely Hollywood's way of trying to make the character connect because the jaded under-25s don't believe real heroes exist anymore. It's their fault everything has to be made so dark these days in tone...
The hating him and alienation bit is merely Hollywood's way of trying to make the character connect because the jaded under-25s don't believe real heroes exist anymore. It's their fault everything has to be made so dark these days in tone...
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Re: Superman: The Man of Steel (D: Snyder)
My response would depend entirely on the way the being is introduced to the world (and I am not referring to the way the media might choose to do that, but his/her own actions). I don't possess any kind of 50's style acquired distrust of everything I don't understand.
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You do realize that half the planet would likely worship him as a God if he accepted that role?
The hating him and alienation bit is merely Hollywood's way of trying to make the character connect because the jaded under-25s don't believe real heroes exist anymore. It's their fault everything has to be made so dark these days in tone...
The hating him and alienation bit is merely Hollywood's way of trying to make the character connect because the jaded under-25s don't believe real heroes exist anymore. It's their fault everything has to be made so dark these days in tone...
25% would claim he must be the anit-Christ
25% would think his existence now proves ALL religions are false
There would be major social/cultural upheaval is something like this were to be revealed. You don't fuck around with people's belief systems and not expect consequences
That's just looking at him from a religious aspect
Politically he would be just as dangerous-especially if he were to 'court' popularity by doing good deeds.
I bemoan the dark, dreary tone this kind of material has taken post '86 just as much as anyone and more than most- but in my life, I've never seen this particular property given a fully thoughtful, sci-fi approach (in terms of exploring the flood of ramifications of a single fantastic concept). The Donner/Mankiewicz film was whimsical and will always remain great to me because of that. But I have that and always will. Now, I'm curious to see something a little more serious and harder edged. I don't know if I'll like it or if the execution of the material will be done well, but I'm looking forward to having my brain worked and seeing this particular property taken places it hasn't before. The wait is going to be excruciating.
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The media influences every single opinion you have on anything right now. Whether you realize it or not. There is no information you receive of the outside world, that isn't colored by the media reportage of it. Not talking just CNN, Fox, etc. Media in general is the figure in the landscape that alters the landscape.
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The media influences every single opinion you have on anything right now. Whether you realize it or not. There is no information you receive of the outside world, that isn't colored by the media reportage of it. Not talking just CNN, Fox, etc. Media in general is the figure in the landscape that alters the landscape.
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Hollywood did not invent Superman mistrust stories. DC has done it countless times from Batman keeping Kryptonite, powers out control, government keeping tabs on him, etc etc.
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Media is more than just corporate owned news services- though that does account for a lot of it. Whether it is Dr Oz trying to fill 40+ hrs a year and having to invariably hawk snake oil at some point to do it, to the hours of covert advertising that passes for special news features on local news or stories that aren't fully told before their news 'cycle' is deemed up.
there are so many ways our intellectual consent is being massaged and manufactured- through commission and omission.
Come to think of it, the way the media factors into Superman interfacing with the world is a ripe for all kinds of exploration as well- even moreso since his alter ego is a reporter.
In fact, a case could be made to keep Kent a paper reporter, because he feels that's the best way he can effect a more nuanced promotion of himself (for lack of a better phrase) as well as maintain a lower profile (opposed to TV media).
there are so many ways our intellectual consent is being massaged and manufactured- through commission and omission.
Come to think of it, the way the media factors into Superman interfacing with the world is a ripe for all kinds of exploration as well- even moreso since his alter ego is a reporter.
In fact, a case could be made to keep Kent a paper reporter, because he feels that's the best way he can effect a more nuanced promotion of himself (for lack of a better phrase) as well as maintain a lower profile (opposed to TV media).
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Guys...F'n seriously? This is Superman we're talking about here, where the damn score is just as iconic as the character (well....to a point).
"The score" has ALWAYS been used for the Superman films....and best I recall...isn't the score used in the Batman films (if it's even considered a score) exclusive to the films?
"The score" has ALWAYS been used for the Superman films....and best I recall...isn't the score used in the Batman films (if it's even considered a score) exclusive to the films?
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#2273
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The William's Superman score. Seriously. Get over it. It's the most overrated piece of movie music perhaps ever. At least since the advent of the internet.
Everyone falling all over themselves over such saccharine bombast.
Everyone falling all over themselves over such saccharine bombast.
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But Snyder is right. This property needs to be divorced completely from the past efforts. A musical call back is not the way to do that.
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