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Old 11-01-10, 08:03 PM
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From that link:
"The phrase 'forget everything you've seen in the movies' is generally followed by information that is, sadly, exactly the same as seen in the movies."
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Japanese Monster Movies. You would think by the 30th G-attack they'd have buildings and technology built to withstand these incursions. Yet, they still act as if it's the 1st time being attacked and they barely know what to do.
I've come to realize that no matter what wacky shit the Japanese cook up, Godzilla is gonna stomping half of Tokyo and most of the military. He's like an earthquake or typhoon, prepare all you like, but stuff is gonna get trashed.

I still haven't figured out why people always act surprised when he shows up. The military gets massive finding to build wacky ass laser arrays to stop him, and the general public is unaware of what this is for and why they are paying for it?
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I don't know if it counts, but the Back to the Future series is full of these because obviously people in a time period aren't aware of future (or past) technology and culture.
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In Watchmen, according to writer Alan Moore, superhero comics never existed, so the concept of the superhero was new to that universe when Doctor Manhattan came into existence. I don't include the unpowered mystery men since the pulp adventurers such as The Shadow may have been in pop culture there before the appearance of Nite Owl I.
Superhero comics existed in Watchmen, Hollis Mason talks about being inspired by now forgotten characters like Superman, it's just that with real superheroes, people lost interest in reading about fictionalized versions and things like pirate comics took off in popularity.
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I don't know if it counts, but the Back to the Future series is full of these because obviously people in a time period aren't aware of future (or past) technology and culture.
Not really. An example of this in BTTF would be if Doc were tell Mary he had built a time machine and Marty wouldn't have known what a time machine was and Doc would have had to explain it. Actually, it's been so long since I've seen this movie, is Marty aware of what it is or does Doc have to explain it to him (and the audience?)
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Marty clearly is aware of the pop culture concept of a time machine, as evidenced by the famous line "Dr. Scott, are you saying that you turned this sports car into a time traveling device?!"
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I don't know if it counts, but the Back to the Future series is full of these because obviously people in a time period aren't aware of future (or past) technology and culture.
Wait, what?
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Regarding Time Travel:
Start at 2:46. End at 2:58.

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Not really. An example of this in BTTF would be if Doc were tell Mary he had built a time machine and Marty wouldn't have known what a time machine was and Doc would have had to explain it. Actually, it's been so long since I've seen this movie, is Marty aware of what it is or does Doc have to explain it to him (and the audience?)
Well, I was thinking of stuff like people not knowing about rock and roll, or the kids in 2015 wondering why you have to use your hands on an arcade machine.
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While the timing isn't exactly right (by November 1955 several rock and roll records had been released [including Chuck Berry, although the song Johnny B. Goode wouldn't be released until 1958]), and Rock Around The Clock was already a chart topping hit as of July 1955, I could see how a group of high schoolers in the suburbs may have been surprised by a rock and roll song, especially performed as forcefully as that.

As for the kids in the second movie, I think it's fairly easy to see how kids are often ignorant of things before their time.
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The conversation between Marty and the guy at the diner is really dated today with the Pepsi Free and Tab references. I think I'd be smart enough not to order a Coke Zero or Pepsi Max if I found myself in 1980.
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The conversation between Marty and the guy at the diner is really dated today with the Pepsi Free and Tab references. I think I'd be smart enough not to order a Coke Zero or Pepsi Max if I found myself in 1980.
You want a Coke, pal, you gotta pay for it!
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The conversation between Marty and the guy at the diner is really dated today with the Pepsi Free and Tab references.
I've noted this before, but if Marty traveled forward in time to today and tried to place the same order, the conversation would be almost identical.
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On the opposite end of this idea, I've caught a few episodes of CSI where they come running in with guns drawn yelling "CSI!" but I have to think that if it weren't for the show most people wouldn't know what CSI means.

So is there a CSI show in the CSI universe?
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To me that's not nearly as big of a problem as the fact that I highly doubt that CSI teams run anywhere with guns drawn shouting "CSI!" in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
While the timing isn't exactly right (by November 1955 several rock and roll records had been released [including Chuck Berry, although the song Johnny B. Goode wouldn't be released until 1958]), and Rock Around The Clock was already a chart topping hit as of July 1955, I could see how a group of high schoolers in the suburbs may have been surprised by a rock and roll song, especially performed as forcefully as that.

As for the kids in the second movie, I think it's fairly easy to see how kids are often ignorant of things before their time.
Right, and that's why I figured they wouldn't count. Obviously in a time travel movie, characters are expected to not be aware of stuff outside their time period. This thread seems to be about things people are supposed to know.
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Didn't DAM take place in 1999? But that's irrelevent cuz that timeline doesn't exist anymore. Cuz of all the new timelines...ugh.

The best timeline in terms of making sense was the Heisei series.
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To me that's not nearly as big of a problem as the fact that I highly doubt that CSI teams run anywhere with guns drawn shouting "CSI!" in the first place.
That struck me as odd too.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
While the timing isn't exactly right (by November 1955 several rock and roll records had been released [including Chuck Berry, although the song Johnny B. Goode wouldn't be released until 1958]), and Rock Around The Clock was already a chart topping hit as of July 1955, I could see how a group of high schoolers in the suburbs may have been surprised by a rock and roll song, especially performed as forcefully as that.
The 50s kids didn't go WTF? until Marty went all Hendrix with the guitar solo.
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On the opposite end of this idea, I've caught a few episodes of CSI where they come running in with guns drawn yelling "CSI!" but I have to think that if it weren't for the show most people wouldn't know what CSI means.

So is there a CSI show in the CSI universe?
I figure enough people know about CSI... It's NCIS that gets me. Even with a Justice degree I had no clue what they were before they show and EVERYONE they meet just takes it in stride.
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Not exactly pop culture, but on shows like Star Trek where they repeat the plot and not one character ever goes "say, this is like that thing last year...."

Or ever wonder why the senior staff so rarely ever gets killed (and if they do it's near the end of the year...)
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Originally Posted by Navinabob
I figure enough people know about CSI... It's NCIS that gets me. Even with a Justice degree I had no clue what they were before they show and EVERYONE they meet just takes it in stride.
Actually, it's an ongoing joke (especially in the first couple of seasons) that few people outside the military or other federal agencies know about NCIS. Tony and Ziva were detained by a security guard, a Halloween partygoer told Gibbs he misspelled CSI on his hat, etc.
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I've noted this before, but if Marty traveled forward in time to today and tried to place the same order, the conversation would be almost identical.
I was shocked the other day to see someone with a can of Tab, i was unaware they still made those.
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Originally Posted by paradicelost
I was shocked the other day to see someone with a can of Tab, i was unaware they still made those.
Yes, and in fact, the "Muffin Man" episode of The Sarah Silverman Program includes a subplot entirely about TaB.


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