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Giles 10-07-11 10:33 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10956537)
Thanks so much for posting that Giles!

I don't like it either. Also wait a minute, did IFC pick up Human Centipede 2 for possible commercial appeal? They obviously picked up the first 2 films for pure sales on shock. They aren't trying to convince the masses to come see a more commercially viable film about people getting grafted to each others assholes.



I looked at the cast list and there is 1 returning cast member from the 1st film. Not sure if she has a huge role in the film, or if it was like Jay Hernandez showing up in Hostel 2.
well I really wasn't sure how to word it, but since, yes the first movie was to shock - IFC seems very hypocritical in deciding what scenes in the sequel went too far and should be clipped - if I were Six I would have pawned it off to Magnet or someone else - if IFC had a problem with it, then don't distribute it, they are not filmmakers - they are the distributor - what is this filmmaking by committee? - fuck off IFC. The 'South Park' Centipede homage episode brought the film to the masses, IFC are just trying to play it safe now.

asianxcore 10-07-11 10:52 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Definitely agree with you. I read some of the cuts originally forced for a British release earlier this morning. It's silly for IFC to think all of that is alright but the scene in the article you posted being out of bounds.

I'll re-iterate again that IFC probably wouldn't have purchased the film for Distribution if it wasn't out of bounds. Free advertising for them.

Giles 10-07-11 11:11 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10956560)
Definitely agree with you. I read some of the cuts originally forced for a British release earlier this morning. It's silly for IFC to think all of that is alright but the scene in the article you posted being out of bounds.

I'll re-iterate again that IFC probably wouldn't have purchased the film for Distribution if it wasn't out of bounds. Free advertising for them.
and I don't see how (or why) Six and IFC even got together in the first place prior to theatrical release - they knew the film was never going to the MPAA - yet IFC execs got nervous and enact some self censoring - I don't remember IFC getting all bent out of shape over 'Anti-Christ's' clitoral slicing scene or the menstrual-sex scene from 'Anatomy of Hell' - talk about singling out one director and one film.

asianxcore 10-07-11 11:39 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10956573)
and I don't see how (or why) Six and IFC even got together in the first place prior to theatrical release - they knew the film was never going to the MPAA - yet IFC execs got nervous and enact some self censoring - I don't remember IFC getting all bent out of shape over 'Anti-Christ's' clitoral slicing scene or the menstrual-sex scene from 'Anatomy of Hell' - talk about singling out one director and one film.
Probably because the ass is a sensitive subject :)

After I see the film tonight, I'll probably look at the list of British Cuts again and post if there are any more things missing that IFC didn't mention.

Sheff 10-08-11 02:00 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
What I have seen cannot be unseen. I can't imagine what the hell else an uncensored version could have in it...

asianxcore 10-08-11 04:52 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Sheff (Post 10956654)
What I have seen cannot be unseen. I can't imagine what the hell else an uncensored version could have in it...
:lol: Tom Six really did outdo himself with this film.

There is slightly less story and absolutely no subtlety compared to the first film.

Definitely a crowd pleasing film. Saw it in an almost packed theater last night with one of my best friends. Lots of cheers, groaning and laughing. The first film had a lot of dark humor in it, but for this film Tom Six has definitely ramped it up quite a bit.

The 'premise' of the film took me by surprise and I have to give Tom Six thumbs up for that one.

As for the uncensored version, just comparing a description of what was cut out of the British Release to what I saw, the scene that is mentioned in the article Giles posted seems to be the only cut.

Spoiler:
No barbed wire wrapped around Martin's penis before he rapes the back of the centipede. In that scene it just looks like he is laying on the back of the girl, but then later on he is seeing pulling up his pants.

Sheff 10-08-11 08:25 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10956689)
:lol: Tom Six really did outdo himself with this film.

There is slightly less story and absolutely no subtlety compared to the first film.

Definitely a crowd pleasing film. Saw it in an almost packed theater last night with one of my best friends. Lots of cheers, groaning and laughing. The first film had a lot of dark humor in it, but for this film Tom Six has definitely ramped it up quite a bit.

The 'premise' of the film took me by surprise and I have to give Tom Six thumbs up for that one.

As for the uncensored version, just comparing a description of what was cut out of the British Release to what I saw, the scene that is mentioned in the article Giles posted seems to be the only cut.

Spoiler:
No barbed wire wrapped around Martin's penis before he rapes the back of the centipede. In that scene it just looks like he is laying on the back of the girl, but then later on he is seeing pulling up his pants.
Of all the things they could possibly cut, they chose this one? Every other minute of the film had more offensive content than that could be.

asianxcore 10-08-11 12:40 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Sheff (Post 10956745)
Of all the things they could possibly cut, they chose this one? Every other minute of the film had more offensive content than that could be.
Right?

That's what Giles and I were talking about a couple of posts above. The article says their reasoning was that it wasn't necessary to tell the story, yet that could be applied to all of the 'shock' moments in the film.

IFC are a bunch of morons.

Matthew Chmiel 10-08-11 03:44 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
IFC is basically telling us that rape is okay and acceptable to show on film, but rape with barbed wire is not. :lol:

I wish I could see this with a packed house.

asianxcore 10-08-11 03:48 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10957100)
IFC is basically telling us that rape is okay and acceptable to show on film, but rape with barbed wire is not. :lol:

I wish I could see this with a packed house.
It was fun! Though there was one girl and her friends, most of which were drunk off their ass. The girl was a non-stop chatterbox before the film and during the first 5 minutes, until the entire audience verbally turned on her :lol:

The people working at the theater had to tell her to quiet down or they would kick out the entire row.

She kept trying to get a theater chant of "rape" before the film even started.

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10956303)
I never saw the first one. Think I would be okay seeing this?
Now that I've seen the sequel, I think you are safe seeing this film. Much of what happens in the first film is shown a whole bunch in the sequel.

dsa_shea 10-08-11 06:48 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10957109)
It was fun! Though there was one girl and her friends, most of which were drunk off their ass. The girl was a non-stop chatterbox before the film and during the first 5 minutes, until the entire audience verbally turned on her :lol:

The people working at the theater had to tell her to quiet down or they would kick out the entire row.

She kept trying to get a theater chant of "rape" before the film even started.



Now that I've seen the sequel, I think you are safe seeing this film. Much of what happens in the first film is shown a whole bunch in the sequel.
Sounds like she was auditioning for the ass end of the Centipede in Part 3.

TomOpus 10-08-11 07:32 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10957109)
Now that I've seen the sequel, I think you are safe seeing this film. Much of what happens in the first film is shown a whole bunch in the sequel.
Thanks! :)

Rypro 525 10-09-11 12:01 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Saw it last night. place was packed. The guy who introduced it (prob the manager) said "you all know this isn't a remake of the Fly right? :lol: " There were a couple of people that took "convieint" bathroom breaks during some of the really nasty stuff. I was actually surprised that the
Spoiler:
sand paper masterbation
wasn't too too nasty, as it was actually mostly off screen (Von Trier would of showed it :lol: ) Several people cheered too at certain parts.

The one "cut" moment makes no sense at all (also, its "shown" just you don't see the begining of it)

Matthew Chmiel 10-09-11 11:10 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Wow... um....

Joblo's EWWW! DISSECTING THE GROSSEST SCENES IN THE HUMAN CENTIPEDE 2


For those of you who have seen the film, I'm curious...

Spoiler:
How graphic is the newborn death? Out of everything on that list, that's what made me feel uneasy.


... on a more positive note, the film grossed $54,000 this weekend on 18 screens. It's more impressive when you think that each of those locations only played the film once at midnight on Friday and/or Saturday.

asianxcore 10-10-11 01:14 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10958891)
For those of you who have seen the film, I'm curious...
Spoiler:
The birth is more graphic than the death, because it's so sudden. The death happens quickly too for that (shock) reaction, but the camera doesn't linger

Dr. DVD 10-10-11 12:58 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
They talked to extent about the movie on Howard Stern this morning. Think I'll pass on this one, at least until I'm drunk and get it off instant Netflix. The
Spoiler:
Newborn death talk really turned me off. At least the woman (to my understanding) is not made part of the centipede, but that was always an element where I thought "surely Six won't go there" in terms of possibilities. Apparently the thought crossed his mind and he decided to do something worse. Sick, but somewhat admirable I guess.


They also explained how Ashlynn Yennie figures into this one

Spoiler:
She is tricked into thinking she is screen testing for a Tarantino project and gets kidnapped. On the upside, she becomes the front segment. Downside, Martin keeps force feeding her stuff like soups and such to force her into having bowel movements. Apparently that's how Martin gets his jollies, getting the victims to defecate all over each other, even going so far as to inject segments with laxatives.


Oh, and apparently the only stuff in color is
Spoiler:
shit.
Gross, but if you're going to select something...

Rypro 525 10-10-11 01:15 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
for Matthew, and Dr DVD
Spoiler:
the newborn death. the main reason why they didnt put her in the centipede was that martin thought he had already killed her. One of the big surprises is pregnant woman coming "back to life", water breaking and all with all the blood and water coming out (shown) and attacking martin and going to his car. She actually gives birth in the car (shown) and to get away from Martin, steps on the newborns head (shown but not lingering

Dr. DVD 10-10-11 04:18 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Just read the wikipedia summation. Still going to skip the movie. However, the ending they describe really seems to make a legit commentary.
Spoiler:
Making sick movies can result in people having sick fantasies. Seems to me they mean for the audience to conclude Martin fantasized the whole thing more than that it actually happened. Of course the irony is that the person who made the original sick movie is now commenting on his own work being dangerous. That's quite an ego. I would not be surprised if Six puts himself into the last one.


I really think they need to work on getting some semi-legit celebrity in the last one. My vote would go for Kim Kardashian. ;) Or perhaps a musical...

asianxcore 10-10-11 09:18 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 10959816)
Just read the wikipedia summation. Still going to skip the movie. However, the ending they describe really seems to make a legit commentary.
Spoiler:
Making sick movies can result in people having sick fantasies. Seems to me they mean for the audience to conclude Martin fantasized the whole thing more than that it actually happened. Of course the irony is that the person who made the original sick movie is now commenting on his own work being dangerous. That's quite an ego. I would not be surprised if Six puts himself into the last one.
When I saw it last week I took it in as:

Spoiler:
Tom Six is pretty much telling all of his critics do not take the film (or it's predecessor) seriously. That's why everything is ramped up from the first film, including the humor. It's so excessive that the film becomes pretty funny.

Dr. DVD 10-11-11 04:49 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10960257)
When I saw it last week I took it in as:

Spoiler:
Tom Six is pretty much telling all of his critics do not take the film (or it's predecessor) seriously. That's why everything is ramped up from the first film, including the humor. It's so excessive that the film becomes pretty funny.

FWIW, I have always thought this whole concept sounded like something that would be on South Park. Seems like the sequel is taking the South Park approach and just making it live action.

Sheff 10-12-11 09:04 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
So it's been almost a week since I saw it. I felt like I saw some nasty shit that would never leave my mind.

...now the only scene that comes to mind occasionally is Martin making the farting noise, and I laugh to myself.

Huh.

SPiRAL 10-14-11 12:35 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
I'll just order it on demand. $7.99 on DirecTv, It'd cost me more to see it at a midnight show, but the fun of seeing with a crowd would be nice. I can DVR it too.

Burnt Thru 10-14-11 01:51 AM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10956548)
well I really wasn't sure how to word it, but since, yes the first movie was to shock - IFC seems very hypocritical in deciding what scenes in the sequel went too far and should be clipped - if I were Six I would have pawned it off to Magnet or someone else - if IFC had a problem with it, then don't distribute it, they are not filmmakers - they are the distributor - what is this filmmaking by committee? - fuck off IFC. The 'South Park' Centipede homage episode brought the film to the masses, IFC are just trying to play it safe now.
Miramax? This battle was fought and lost in the mid 90's.

asianxcore 10-14-11 05:32 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Originally Posted by Sheff (Post 10962894)
So it's been almost a week since I saw it. I felt like I saw some nasty shit that would never leave my mind.

...now the only scene that comes to mind occasionally is Martin making the farting noise, and I laugh to myself.

Huh.
To be honest, I was more grossed out by Martin's appearance than I was with most of the stuff that was in the film :)

Dr. DVD 10-14-11 05:52 PM
Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Six really missed the bus to make this a family movie about a lonely fat man and his human centipede friend. Despite not being a surgeon, Martin realizes the impossible and creates his centipede, so it's a movie about triumph!!! ;)


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