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dsa_shea 08-10-11 08:29 PM

Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Tom Six is not a master at anything unless his trade is sucking.

Matthew Chmiel 09-03-11 01:39 AM

Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
Everyone goes ass-to-mouth on October 7th.


Originally Posted by /Film
Briefly: You have a month to prepare: on October 7, Tom Six‘s The Human Centipede 2: Full Sequence will hit theaters. If that seems like pretty short notice before the release, well, it is. Very short. We haven’t even seen a trailer yet from IFC. (There was that one footage-free teaser many months ago.) That leads me to wonder what the release strategy really is with the film. Is IFC hiding it, or just waiting for the opportune moment to throw a little sandpaper masturbation in our faces?

Source

Yeah, what is IFC's strategy? Because, at this point in time, there's nothing and the film is a month away from release. I'm assuming like the first it'll be an In Theaters + On Demand release. However, with all of the attention the first film got and IFC's failure to capture it during any sort of a theatrical run, will they actually release it on a wider scale?

Rypro 525 09-03-11 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10910790)
Everyone goes ass-to-mouth on October 7th.



Source

Yeah, what is IFC's strategy? Because, at this point in time, there's nothing and the film is a month away from release. I'm assuming like the first it'll be an In Theaters + On Demand release. However, with all of the attention the first film got and IFC's failure to capture it during any sort of a theatrical run, will they actually release it on a wider scale?

Most places (at least the landmark theaters) are doing it as strictly a midnight movie, as they it wouldn't do well as a full release)

Terrell 09-03-11 10:53 PM

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How pathetic is it that Kevin Smith can't get a film released in theaters, as Red State went straight to DVD, yet this film will get a theater release?

I'm not sticking up for Smith. Just pointing how big of a joke and parody of himself that he's become. Not even Hollywood takes him seriously. That's kind of said. I never liked Smith, but he has more ability than Tom Six, whose only talent is to shock and gross people out.

Rypro 525 09-03-11 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrell (Post 10911487)
How pathetic is it that Kevin Smith can't get a film released in theaters, as Red State went straight to DVD, yet this film will get a theater release?

I'm not sticking up for Smith. Just pointing how big of a joke and parody of himself that he's become. Not even Hollywood takes him seriously. That's kind of said. I never liked Smith, but he has more ability than Tom Six, whose only talent is to shock and gross people out.

I would say its more Kev's fault then anything. I'm sure someone like Lionsgate would have bought it at sundance and given it decent distribution but he went a different way. I think Red State is actually having a 1 night only release via fathom or something like that, and it will be eligible for award season, as he did have it play in 1 LA theater for a week

Rypro 525 09-08-11 02:30 AM

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and what we've been waiting for
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Rypro 525 09-23-11 03:04 AM

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and per the critics and bloggers who saw The Human Centipede 2 at Fantastic Fest last night, its as graphic and deplorable as one would expect w everything being shown this time (and i read a tweet that the paramedics were called as someone needed medical assistance during the screening

d2cheer 09-23-11 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10934908)
(and i read a tweet that the paramedics were called as someone needed medical assistance during the screening



-rolleyes-

Matthew Chmiel 09-23-11 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordling, Ain't It Cool News
Tom Six's original film is a model of restraint in comparison to the sequel, which has Martin (Lawrence Harvey) as a barely functional human being who is so taken by the original film that he decides to reenact it, but on a much bigger scale. The movie has logic flaws all over the place (Martin's Crowbar of Anesthesia + 4 seems to just knock out every person it touches when they should be feasibly dead) but obviously you're not looking for logic in a film where 10+ people are connected ass-to-mouth.

Is it good? I don't think words like good or bad really apply here. I laughed a lot, but mostly at how much the film tried to shock. I get the feeling that Six responded to critics of the first film by upping the ante on every level - on gore, on horror, and on the ridiculousness of the premise. I'd like to think that Six's film is a take on the moral police who judged the first film without really seeing it, in that he pretty much made the film that they imagined the first one to be. It has no morality in it at all, and even though the film suggests that much of the action is taking place in Martin's head, which may provide an out for some in the audience, the imagery is pretty much what you'd expect - explosive bowels, gore (although again, here's more suggested than shown - it just shows a lot as well), clearly insane characters, and while the first film is antiseptic and even clean in its way, HUMAN CENTIPEDE 2 is about as filthy as it gets.

The first film, curiously, was asexual, but not this one, boy. There's rape, sexual mutilation, and suggested incest and pedophilia. Tom Six didn't hold back with this one, and the idea that Six suggested in the Q&A afterwards that the inevitable third film has something of a happy ending may be enough for "fans" of this series to give this a go. As a film, it's a bit exasperating, but as an experience, especially with that crowd, I couldn't deny that it was... fun? I'm glad I wasn't alone in witnessing it, at least.


Originally Posted by Rod Lott, OK Gazette
"THC II" begins with Martin (newcomer Laurence R. Harvey), a sweaty, bug-eyed, obese parking garage attendant in London, watching the tail end of the first "THC" on his laptop at work. When it's over, he watches it again. He's obsessed with it, to the point that he keeps a scrapbook of the film hidden underneath his bed, as if it were porn.

Martin doesn't utter a word. He doesn't need to. His story is so simple — a lifetime of abuse and ridicule — that he doesn't have to. The gist of "THC II" is that he begins to wonder about testing the movie's "100% Medically Accurate" advertising claim, so he seeks out some unwilling test subjects from the labyrinthian parking garage. Whereas the movie's Dr. Heiter had but three victims, Martin seeks a dirty dozen.

Whereas the first film was clean and antiseptic in look and design, this sequel is bleak and grimy. Whereas the first film was in color, this sequel is in black-and-white — except for one scene, à la the girl in the red dress from Steven Spielberg's "Schindler's List," but I leave it to your imagination. Whereas the first film showed next to nothing, this sequel shows everything. I do think it goes too far, and from a guy like me who has a strong tolerance for horror, that's saying something. (However, I should note that most of the audience members were more troubled by a pre-show short of a medical education film about the vasectomy procedure, step by scissoring step.)

I'm still processing "THC II." Six has made the darkest of black comedies, set in "Eraserhead"-type surroundings of societal misery, and then stitched on a Grand Guignol grand finale that had many unsure whether to laugh or recoil, so they did both. Harvey gives a remarkably brave performance; we alternately feel sorry for him and want to kill him. I think I liked the movie — it's arty, clever and unique — but so much of its third act crosses the line that the angel on my shoulder tells me I shouldn't. You'll never look at sandpaper the same way again.

Actually, the afterward appearance of Six, Harvey and four lovely centipede segments onstage took some of the sting out of it. There's a reason why they call it "special effects." Those butts sure looked real to me.

The highlight of the Q-and-A was when League asked Six about how he found Harvey, who resembles Alfred Hitchcock by way of Batman comics' The Penguin. Six said Harvey walked into auditions, "and then I asked him to rape a chair. He went at it full-force." And the rest is cinema history.

IFC handed out t-shirts with the tagline with "The Deuce is Loose." :lol:

A screener of the film has leaked as well... and it hasn't even hit OnDemand yet! :(

Dr. DVD 09-23-11 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10935407)
IFC handed out t-shirts with the tagline with "The Deuce is Loose." :lol:


Gotta give them credit, they know what people are thinking!

dsa_shea 09-23-11 08:26 PM

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Why black and white? I wonder if that was intended from the get go or that was a choice that was made to get at least approval for showing it in the theaters.

Human Centipede 2: Backdoor Boogaloo

GoldenJCJ 09-24-11 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10935407)
IFC handed out t-shirts with the tagline with "The Deuce is Loose." :lol:

The negative reviews are practically going to write themselves...

Matthew Chmiel 09-24-11 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dsa_shea (Post 10935960)
Why black and white? I wonder if that was intended from the get go or that was a choice that was made to get at least approval for showing it in the theaters.

Human Centipede 2: Backdoor Boogaloo

Considering the US, I'm sure IFC and Six knew the film would be released without a rating. Maybe for international distribution (despite the UK already banning it)? Or maybe the practical effects suck and black and white helps hide it better? Who knows! If Six shot the film on digital, that means the original master is that of a film shot in color... so maybe a possible bonus feature on the DVD.


Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ (Post 10936349)
The negative reviews are practically going to write themselves...

I expect nothing but shit jokes with a possible incest or rape joke thrown into the mix from now until the film's release.

SuckaMC 09-24-11 12:02 PM

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I just can't see anyone reading about some of the stuff in this "movie" (ie: jacking off with sandpaper, rape with barb wire, etc,) black comedy or not, and saying: "This I gotta see!".

But I know some people will. I'm not sure what to think about that.

Matthew Chmiel 09-26-11 09:16 PM

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This film looks fucking awful... ly amazing!

Rypro 525 09-26-11 09:55 PM

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I'm game. I wonder if theaters are gonna hand out barf bags

Solid Snake 09-26-11 10:00 PM

Re: Human Centipede 2: The Full Sequence (or the deuce the world's been waiting for)
 
well the lead guy is very interesting looking.

Gunde 09-27-11 06:39 AM

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I love how all the negative reviews are basically bashing it for giving them exactly what they all complained was lacking in the first movie :lol:

I remember many here expressing disppointment in how the first one wasn't graphic enough. It will be interesting to see if they - like the critics - really didn't mean that.

It's like a big "Fuck you!" movie and at the same time a parody of both the fans and how the detractors view the fans :)

Dr. DVD 09-27-11 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10940011)
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This film looks fucking awful... ly amazing!

I love how the trailer is followed by an ad featuring happy children. ;)


One thing they seem to be making abundantly clear is that this version could NOT happen and that Martin is no doctor; his surgery methods seem very crude.

Matthew Chmiel 09-28-11 01:58 PM

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IFC posted new stills and the theater listing this morning...


Originally Posted by IFC Films
OPENING MARKETS AND THEATERS - more coming soon:

10/07/11 IFC Center New York, NY

10/07/11 Music Box Theatre Chicago, IL

10/07/11 Main Art Theatre Royal Oak, MI

10/07/11 Oriental Theatre Milwaukee, WI

10/07/11 Uptown Theatre Minneapolis, MN

10/07/11 Tivoli Theatre University City, MO

10/07/11 Ritz at the Bourse Philadelphia, PA

10/07/11 E Street Cinema Washington, DC

10/07/11 Midtown Art Cinemas 8 Atlanta, GA

10/07/11 Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar Austin, TX

10/07/11 Inwood Theatre Dallas, TX

10/07/11 River Oaks Theatre Houston, TX

10/07/11 Esquire Theatre Denver, CO

10/07/11 Nuart Theatre West Los Angeles, CA

10/07/11 Ken Cinema San Diego, CA

10/07/11 Egyptian Theatre Seattle, WA

10/07/11 Lumiere Theatre San Francisco, CA

10/14/11 Prytania Theatre New Orleans, LA

10/14/11 The Royale Mesa, AZ

10/21/11 Dundee Theatre Omaha, NE

10/21/11 Del Mar Theatre Santa Cruz, CA

10/21/11 Las Vegas Sci Fi Center Las Vegas, NV

10/28/11 Loft Cinema Twin Tucson, AZ

I'd like to point out that the Sci-Fi Center is not a real theater. :sad: I guess I'll have to wait and watch it at home. :(

Rypro 525 09-29-11 01:13 PM

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Also, most if not all of those theaters have it only showing as a midnight movie

TomOpus 09-29-11 06:28 PM

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Ah, the Ken theater here in SD. One of the few single screen theaters left in the city.

asianxcore 09-30-11 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10943985)
Also, most if not all of those theaters have it only showing as a midnight movie

I'm waiting/hoping that the Lumiere in San Francisco puts it as a Midnight Movie. Not showing up on their October 6th schedule yet :(

Matthew Chmiel 10-03-11 02:09 AM

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More theaters have gone up, direct link to theaters are here.

IFC has also announced the film will be available On Demand starting Wednesday, October 12th. :thumbsup:

Rypro 525 10-07-11 10:29 AM

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New poster (semi nsfw)

and i have my ticket pre ordered :D

asianxcore 10-07-11 11:52 AM

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The list posted mentions that the Lumiere Theatre in San Francisco would have the film starting today, but the website does not have showtimes up for the film through the next week.

No idea what is going on.

Rypro 525 10-07-11 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10955611)
The list posted mentions that the Lumiere Theatre in San Francisco would have the film starting today, but the website does not have showtimes up for the film through the next week.

No idea what is going on.

checking the landmark site, it looks like its playing at the Bridge Theater at midnight only

asianxcore 10-07-11 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 10955623)
checking the landmark site, it looks like its playing at the Bridge Theater at midnight only

Thanks for the heads up. Look like Midnight for both today and tomorrow.

I really wish the change in theater was posted somewhere. Ugh!

Giles 10-07-11 04:21 PM

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maybe this has been stated before, but what's with the news that IFC did some of it's own pruning of some of the more extreme scenes - is that true?

islandclaws 10-07-11 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 10949085)
IFC has also announced the film will be available On Demand starting Wednesday, October 12th. :thumbsup:

Nice! I'll watch it at home, just like I did the first one. That way my gf can periodically leave the room, then poke her head in long enough to tell me I'm sick for watching it.

asianxcore 10-07-11 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10955974)
maybe this has been stated before, but what's with the news that IFC did some of it's own pruning of some of the more extreme scenes - is that true?

Hmm...that's the first I've heard of it. Though when I looked up news stories, apparently after folks saw the Australian Teaser, word got out that the U.S version might be cut when compared.

http://www.news-and-gossip.com/austr...g-yet-09-2011/

Looks like I will be catching a Midnight Showing of this with one of my best friends. Should be fun :)

Sheff 10-07-11 06:37 PM

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Anyone in Chicago seeing this tonight? I successfully managed to find not a single person willing to see this with me. :lol:

TomOpus 10-07-11 07:27 PM

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I never saw the first one. Think I would be okay seeing this?

Giles 10-07-11 09:01 PM

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here's what a New York Times article stated about Six and cutting the film for IFC's theatrical release:

Spoiler:
For the American release of the film Mr. Six has made concessions, removing a scene in which Martin wraps his penis in barbed wire before raping a woman at the end of the centipede. (Mr. Sehring of IFC Films said: “We really worked with Tom to come up with what we felt would be the most commercial version of the movie. Did I think it was necessary, or did we think it was necessary to tell the story? No.”)

Mr. Six said he was hopeful that an unedited version of “Human Centipede 2” would also be released, and is already planning a third and final installment. “In the end,” he said, “all three films can be literally connected as one film of four and a half hours.”


I personally hate it when distributor's stick there head (pun intended) where it isn't needed - specifically in the editing of a film for "more commercial appeal/acceptance"

asianxcore 10-07-11 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10956455)
here's what a New York Times article stated about Six and cutting the film for IFC's theatrical release:

Spoiler:
For the American release of the film Mr. Six has made concessions, removing a scene in which Martin wraps his penis in barbed wire before raping a woman at the end of the centipede. (Mr. Sehring of IFC Films said: “We really worked with Tom to come up with what we felt would be the most commercial version of the movie. Did I think it was necessary, or did we think it was necessary to tell the story? No.”)

Mr. Six said he was hopeful that an unedited version of “Human Centipede 2” would also be released, and is already planning a third and final installment. “In the end,” he said, “all three films can be literally connected as one film of four and a half hours.”


I personally hate it when distributor's stick there head (pun intended) where it isn't needed - specifically in the editing of a film for "more commercial appeal/acceptance"

Thanks so much for posting that Giles!

I don't like it either. Also wait a minute, did IFC pick up Human Centipede 2 for possible commercial appeal? They obviously picked up the first 2 films for pure sales on shock. They aren't trying to convince the masses to come see a more commercially viable film about people getting grafted to each others assholes.


Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10956303)
I never saw the first one. Think I would be okay seeing this?

I looked at the cast list and there is 1 returning cast member from the 1st film. Not sure if she has a huge role in the film, or if it was like Jay Hernandez showing up in Hostel 2.

Giles 10-07-11 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10956537)
Thanks so much for posting that Giles!

I don't like it either. Also wait a minute, did IFC pick up Human Centipede 2 for possible commercial appeal? They obviously picked up the first 2 films for pure sales on shock. They aren't trying to convince the masses to come see a more commercially viable film about people getting grafted to each others assholes.



I looked at the cast list and there is 1 returning cast member from the 1st film. Not sure if she has a huge role in the film, or if it was like Jay Hernandez showing up in Hostel 2.

well I really wasn't sure how to word it, but since, yes the first movie was to shock - IFC seems very hypocritical in deciding what scenes in the sequel went too far and should be clipped - if I were Six I would have pawned it off to Magnet or someone else - if IFC had a problem with it, then don't distribute it, they are not filmmakers - they are the distributor - what is this filmmaking by committee? - fuck off IFC. The 'South Park' Centipede homage episode brought the film to the masses, IFC are just trying to play it safe now.

asianxcore 10-07-11 10:52 PM

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Definitely agree with you. I read some of the cuts originally forced for a British release earlier this morning. It's silly for IFC to think all of that is alright but the scene in the article you posted being out of bounds.

I'll re-iterate again that IFC probably wouldn't have purchased the film for Distribution if it wasn't out of bounds. Free advertising for them.

Giles 10-07-11 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by asianxcore (Post 10956560)
Definitely agree with you. I read some of the cuts originally forced for a British release earlier this morning. It's silly for IFC to think all of that is alright but the scene in the article you posted being out of bounds.

I'll re-iterate again that IFC probably wouldn't have purchased the film for Distribution if it wasn't out of bounds. Free advertising for them.

and I don't see how (or why) Six and IFC even got together in the first place prior to theatrical release - they knew the film was never going to the MPAA - yet IFC execs got nervous and enact some self censoring - I don't remember IFC getting all bent out of shape over 'Anti-Christ's' clitoral slicing scene or the menstrual-sex scene from 'Anatomy of Hell' - talk about singling out one director and one film.

asianxcore 10-07-11 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 10956573)
and I don't see how (or why) Six and IFC even got together in the first place prior to theatrical release - they knew the film was never going to the MPAA - yet IFC execs got nervous and enact some self censoring - I don't remember IFC getting all bent out of shape over 'Anti-Christ's' clitoral slicing scene or the menstrual-sex scene from 'Anatomy of Hell' - talk about singling out one director and one film.

Probably because the ass is a sensitive subject :)

After I see the film tonight, I'll probably look at the list of British Cuts again and post if there are any more things missing that IFC didn't mention.

Sheff 10-08-11 02:00 AM

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What I have seen cannot be unseen. I can't imagine what the hell else an uncensored version could have in it...


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