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Old 09-09-10, 02:42 PM
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Re: The trashy scummy 80s in the Terminator

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
THE WARRIORS was total fantasy. We in New York laughed at it, even back then. I knew plenty of South Bronx street gang members in the 1970s and, believe me, the gangs in THE WARRIORS were never even close to the real thing.

DEATH WISH was a joke, too. As plentiful as muggers were, they knew to steer clear of guys who looked like Charles Bronson. They usually went after little old ladies and high school kids. I've always felt that DEATH WISH would have been much more interesting if someone like Tony Randall or Jack Lemmon had played the part of Paul Kersey.
I was referring to the eerie, atmospheric look of NYC in the 70's, not the realism of the ganger members/muggers.
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Re: The trashy scummy 80s in the Terminator

Yes, "trashy scummy" definitely lends itself to Terminator in creating the whole "tech noir" subset of the period, particularily from the car chase into the police station and the subsequent shootout.

To me though, the nightclub scene is one of the pillars of the 80s being represented in film; the city at night, the neon lights, the music and clothes...all the carefree gaudy clubbers dancing away unsuspecting while the existential threat of future-death-now slinks through them hunting for his victim, who really is all but dead already in name, the Terminator just picking them off the list. Then the slow motion camera work yet the diegetic music plays normally (non-diegetic for us?), those few seconds are bliss before the chaos is unleashed...damn that scene is a juggernaut of how it's done. Fucking brilliant.
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That nightclub part was like the 80s summed up at its best like the guitar solo in I Ran.
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Re: The trashy scummy 80s in the Terminator

Originally Posted by Sean O'Hara
I think the real difference between the original and sequel is the film stock. The stuff low budget movies got stuck with in the '70s and '80s made everything look gritty. In T2, it's too good and makes even the seedy back alleys look glossy.
Interesting, funny how the lower quality film ends up looking cooler.
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I kinda like the beautiful griminess that was seen in Troma Team productions like The Toxic Avenger and Class of Nuke 'Em High. Gotta love New York and New Jersey, circa 1984.
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Those trash movies were wonderful. Anything produced by Menahem Golam (he was the inspiration for Gene Hackman's character in Get Shorty, I hear ), anything from Cannon films (many epics starring Charles Bronson, Jean Claude Van Damme and Chuck Norris), all the Miami Vice and Cop Rock TV shows, and on and on.
You're talking about my high school to college years, always the most important years of a man's life...and always the most fun. I didn't do the hair metal thing, I was into hardcore and ska...and jazz. It was about music that sounded street and real, whatever it may be.
And I had long hair but couldn't do the perfect new wave flip. How did those guys do that? The closest I could get was a mock-Bono mullet that I would frequently hide under my fedora. Bono knew how to rock the 80s mullet
The glitz and seediness of the disco through Reagan era had a lot to do with sexual, religious and cultural fear and oppression exploding in a very visual way. The fashions, hair and films from this period? They were about getting laid, as much as possible! This was a new thing and young people flaunted it in big, frilly, neon style. Don't get me started on the porn...
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Re: The trashy scummy 80s in the Terminator

Originally Posted by inri222
I knew members of the Reapers. I actually got back in touch with two of them a couple of years ago and they're living productive, middle-class lives now. They beat the odds.

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