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Old 08-14-10, 08:09 PM
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You damned Hipsters!!!
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When a guy called "UncleGramps" loves it, I'd say Scott Pilgrim isn't just for hipsters.

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God damn it, Scott Pilgrim is NOT AIMED AT HIPSTERS. HIPSTERS ARE THE VILLAINS OF THE FILM. Maybe if people went to see it they'd get it, but apparently not.
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The villians aren't really Hipsters either, they're just douchebags.
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Really, we're all just evil exes waiting to happen.
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
God damn it, Scott Pilgrim is NOT AIMED AT HIPSTERS. HIPSTERS ARE THE VILLAINS OF THE FILM. Maybe if people went to see it they'd get it, but apparently not.
Well, until you go to see it, you only have the advertising to go on, right? Michael Cera and his mopey personality and haircut and his ironic ringer tees...hipster. The girlfriend with her cool dyed hair, tights and oh-so-non-conformist style...hipster.

Like Patman said, it's aimed at a narrow segment of the young adult audience, and that's not enough to carry the film. It's doing exactly the kind of business I expected it to do. Whether it's an awesome film or not is irrelevant to the discussion.
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I don't know. To me, Scott Pilgrim looked horrible based on the commercials. However, I'm not at all familiar with the source material, so perhaps I didn't "get it" the way the fans would. Maybe more people unfamilar with the comic felt the same way, or just didn't know what to make of it.
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I will admit, Stephen Stills is kind of a hipster. Far more so than Scott.
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Re: Weekend Box Office (8/13-8/15): Testosterone fever edition

So hipster is defined by anyone younger than 30, I suppose. This was targeted at those who grew up with a nintendo.

With or without an ironic t-shirt.
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Originally Posted by Suprmallet
I will admit, Stephen Stills is kind of a hipster. Far more so than Scott.
I don't think Stills is a hipster either.

However, I should give my definition of a hipster, which someone who is basically too cool for everything. The phrase "been there, done that" is an aspect of their very personality. These people always greet enthusiasm for anything with a "oh yeah, that was pretty cool when I heard about it a few years back". Jason Schwartzman's Gideon Graves is totally a hipster, through and through, as is Brandon Routh's Todd Ingram. The others, maybe not so much, but definitely those two.

I think being enthusiastic and emotionally amped is the opposite of hipsterism, and that's what Scott is, about everything. Stephen Stills is the same way, in the movie anyway.
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The Butcher is a great Eric Roberts performance and a very enjoyable movie; it was a real shame it was shoved DTV.
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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
God damn it, Scott Pilgrim is NOT AIMED AT HIPSTERS. HIPSTERS ARE THE VILLAINS OF THE FILM. Maybe if people went to see it they'd get it, but apparently not.
Dude, it has Michael Cera, annoying hipster extraordinaire. And I'm not going to go see it because it looks fucking stupid.

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So hipster is defined by anyone younger than 30, I suppose.
No, it's white kids who listen to crappy sad-sack music and think it's cool because no one knows what it is and will make fun of people who listen to music that isn't entirely obscure. Oh, and they love to take up dorky fashions and pretend it's cool because they know it's dorky, as though ironically being a douchebag makes you less of a douchebag.
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Re: Weekend Box Office (8/13-8/15): Testosterone fever edition

So... what made Scott Pilgrim a Hipster and not just a 20-something slacker.

Because, I'm sure there has been generation and generation of 20-something slackers that weren't what you would call a hipster.


And.. Sean O' Hara's favorite bands:
Tori Amos
Nine Inch Nails
Pearl Jam
Bahaus
Portishead
Air



Yeah.. No sad-sack sounds there....

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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
So hipster is defined by anyone younger than 30, I suppose. This was targeted at those who grew up with a nintendo.
I grew up with a Nintendo. I'm 43.
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Originally Posted by Jackskeleton
And.. Sean O' Hara's favorite bands:
Tori Amos
Nine Inch Nails
Pearl Jam
Bahaus
Portishead
Air



Yeah.. No sad-sack sounds there....
At least we've all heard of those artists. Like he said, hipsters wallow in loving bands that no one else has heard of. I know, I have a hipster co-worker that tells me about an awesome new band every day, none of which I have ever heard of before. So tedious.
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Indie rock isn't sad or that obscure these days. I definitely noticed no shortage of Scott Pilgrim merch in the record store friday. But yeah, like people who buy music in stores, it appears there's a limited audience for SP.

Jack I'd say the difference is one's just a more refined slacker - the coffee/book shop goer who likes indie rock vs the dive bar, mainstream music fan. You can also tell these types apart by how tight the jeans are. The refined one can pass off his/her aimless wandering through life as a principled choice... which makes their scenario more maddening as they probably have greater potential than the slacker that just can't hold jobs.

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Originally Posted by droidguy1119
I don't think Stills is a hipster either.

However, I should give my definition of a hipster, which someone who is basically too cool for everything. The phrase "been there, done that" is an aspect of their very personality. These people always greet enthusiasm for anything with a "oh yeah, that was pretty cool when I heard about it a few years back". Jason Schwartzman's Gideon Graves is totally a hipster, through and through, as is Brandon Routh's Todd Ingram. The others, maybe not so much, but definitely those two.

I think being enthusiastic and emotionally amped is the opposite of hipsterism, and that's what Scott is, about everything. Stephen Stills is the same way, in the movie anyway.
Fair enough. Stephen Stills just dresses like a hipster.

But yeah, a movie about a guy who is willing to fight seven other guys to prove his love to a girl is not a movie about a hipster. He would be a hipster if he said, "Oh, I fought seven guys to date my last girlfriend," made fun of the bands that the first evil ex listened to, then had a PBR.

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Dismissive of musical tastes of others and people you deem unimportant and "tedious"? Numanoid, you sound like such a hipster.

Originally Posted by chuckd21
I think everyone is missing the bigger picture. Audiences have finally chosen Eric Roberts over Julia Roberts.
My facebook/twitter status from last week was "You know who really hopes THE EXPENDABLES beats EAT PRAY LOVE? Eric Roberts, I bet." I was happy to see one of the critics I follow respond "Holy hell. Never made that connection." I'm a little surprised the Eric/Julia thing wasn't in every poorly-written snarky review!

I made my peace with Pilgrim's forecast a while back - Wright has a brilliant track record, even if the films weren't massive hits with the general public. I look forward to seeing it. I'm happy for Stallone, though I wish The Expendables were a more exciting film.
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Most people I know are avoiding SP because of Michael Cera (by far) and because it looks stupid.
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I think the problem with Scott Pilgrim is that they previewed it for like a month, for free in many cases, and so everyone who was super pumped to see it saw it in the last 30 days for free.

Love seeing the Eric Roberts love going on in here. Everyone's made some solid recommendations (The Ambulance, Star 80, The Pope of Greenwich Village, Runaway Train, Best of the Best). May I also recommend:

By the Sword
Love Cheat & Steal
The Specialist (geez, I never made the connection that he'd already worked with Stallone)
It's My Party
Purgatory

And of course his hilarious cameo in The Cable Guy:

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Re: Weekend Box Office (8/13-8/15): Testosterone fever edition

Originally Posted by Numanoid
Michael Cera and his mopey personality and haircut and his ironic ringer tees...hipster.
Mopey != hipster

He's not really wearing any ironic tees at all that I can remember. He's wearing a Plumtree shirt...'sa really great band, nothing ironic about that. Rock Band bass icon shirt. He's a bassist who's an avid gamer. Nothing ironic about that. He wears a 4 1/2 shirt, referencing Franklin Richards from the Fantastic Four extended family. For a guy who devours comics, there's nothing ironic about that. Openly liking geeky stuff isn't hipsterdom.
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Scott Pilgrim was never going to be a major hit. But I don't really care because it was totally awesome fun and will live long on DVD. And I ain't no fuckin' hipster.
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Originally Posted by chuckd21
I think the problem with Scott Pilgrim is that they previewed it for like a month, for free in many cases, and so everyone who was super pumped to see it saw it in the last 30 days for free.
Even I feared this at one point, but then someone rightfully pointed out that five screenings, five packed screenings, is one day of business in one theater. It sounds like too many, but the math doesn't really support it.
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Although at least around here, unless it is a opening night of a Star Wars movie, theaters are NEVER 70% or more full opening weekend. It looks like a lot of people but there there are always seats availible on the sides/front/between people. For free movie screenings, it is often 100% full. Never doubt people to try to see something for free. So 5 preview screenings probably are equal to two days of regular screenings, even more if the movie isn't a blockbuster.

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