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I never cared for the show Yes, Dear, but my wife watches the re-runs on TBS and there was an episode in which Kevin Smith appeared as himself. Anyway, the krux of the episode is that Jimmy the security guard (a redneck lucky to make it through high school) runs into Smith at the premiere of the film in a bathroom, unaware who the guy is, and just blasts the movie for sucking.

Jimmy had attended in the stead of his brother-in-law, an executive at the studio, who took heat for the bashing from his boss. In the end of the episode, Smith comes in and reconciles, saying that he'd been surrounded by a bunch of "yes" people the whole time and really needed some honesty to show him that what he'd made was crap.

It sounds to me like this episode is playing out in real life right now, but in fairness I haven't seen Cop Out so I don't know if I would think it was crap or not. I just know that a great many people failed to respond to it, from professional critics to Internet fanboys and movie-goers in between. One thing that struck me as very unusual for someone as prolific as Smith is that I never saw or heard his name touted in any of the trailers or TV spots I saw for the film. I thought that was odd, and wondered if he'd requested not to be too publicly linked with the film...or if the studio didn't care to link the film to him.

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Hes dropping F bombs left and right in CCI panels, and ruffling some comic fans. At least he admits to his lack of talent. How dare fans be passionate about characters they support.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=27376

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You keep posting about the same thing over and over. If our interest in why Smith has such a rabid following bothers you so much, stop reading the thread.

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I don't know who that is so I don't get the reference. I'll assume it was something negative. :)

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Yeah, I was interested in him being on this panel, since it was pure comics and thought from what I've read his lewdness was way out of line. Apparently he made a joke about a father bringing his daughter to the panel, like the guy was supposed to know a Batman comic discussion would contain X-rated material.

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:lol:

:hscratch: Two posts in 90 is over and over? :lol: Riiight. And no it doesn't bother me. I just find it funny(hence the smiley in one of those two posts) that people have so much hatred for a dude they've never met.

Smith has small budgets and his films make money. His career isn't over, love, hate or otherwise.

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Personally, I'm starting to think it's time someone proposed a moratorium on "Is [insert name]'s career over?" threads. The only time anyone's career ends is when they officially retire and/or die. All these kinds of questions prompt are hyperbolic speculation, and while there are sometimes some interesting observations shared about the person's career to date, the overall threads seem to always wind up where we are now with this one.

And before anyone bothers to call me out for participating in the very kind of thread I'm saying we could do without, 1) I only mentioned an episode of a TV series in which Kevin Smith was confronted by criticism, and 2) I may well be guilty of hypocrisy here and if so, I plead guilty rather than compound my sins. I still think we could do without these kinds of pointless speculations about where someone's career is headed.

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I've always wondered if the Fat Man posts in here under a nom de plume......or at the very least, is a lurker.

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Her husband Jason, is a client of mine.

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Yes, over and over is two. ;)

I just find it interesting when people complain about others have an opinion. As for people having hatred for someone they never met, welcome to the human race. That's something that we do quite well.

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Jersey Girl and Zach and Miri, while being far from great movies, were not all that bad. I actually liked the Jersey Girl as a movie by itself. No, it wasn't Clerks or Mallrats, nor was it trying to be. Zach and Miri was decent, but I really felt it was Kevin Smith trying to be Judd Apatow.

I am never going to give Cop Out a spin in my Blu-Ray player. You can't get me to watch that movie for free...I have heard enough bad things about it to know it stinks.

So while I think his last great movie was Dogma (and I can't say I particularly cared all that much for Clerks II...it was OK but overrated) I would hate to rule him out yet because of one turd in the punch bowl. His strong point has always been dialogue driven movies. I think I'd actually like to see him do a movie adaptation of Kyle Baker's "Why I Hate Saturn" book for a movie. That's such an awesome book and had needed to be made into a movie for more than 20 years now, and it's so rich in dialogue and driven in dialogue I think Kevin would be the man to make it into a movie.

Maybe if he just tried to focus on making smaller movies and stopped trying to make the next Clerks he would be OK. I can't see an idea like "Why I Hate Saturn" being the next Clerks, but I bet it would make for a good indie film.

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I went to his live show a few months back. The guy came off as a super nice dude that had me laughing the whole night.

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If you listen to Smodcast, all he wants to do anymore is get stoned and screw his fleshlight. Not sure he has much desire to do movies since that would interfere with those two things. It's sad because I really enjoy his early stuff, and even listening to Smodcast makes me laugh from time to time. The guy has the art of telling good and funny stories. If only he could channel that back into movies.

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Hmm... and people wonder why he gets so many hatred. I guess he's appealing to his fans when he says stuff like that but he's a grown ass man.

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He can have his fleshlight. I'll take his wife :)

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If you want to know if his career is over or not, why don't you come down to the Comic Con tonight and see for yourself? There will probably be 7,000 people there to see him...

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That's why I think he needs to focus on dialogue driven movies. He really needs to try to do something along the lines of a movie like My Dinner With Andre. Not a remake, but something along those lines.

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What a lovely mental image that is...

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Agreed. He may have the fan passion for comic books and stuff, but he simply does not have the directorial talent needed to pull off a large scale action film. I enjoy his movies for the dialogue, in terms of camerawork and staging, well, there isn't really anything to say.

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Nothing wrong with a grown man wanting to do those things. :shrug:

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Damn. The whole fucking world's against him, dude, I swear to God.

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Really? Have you read through this thread or done a search on him here? There are people defending him endlessly & he is one of the most popular directors here, look how many people actually bought Cop Out.

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I know, that's one of Jay's catchphrases.

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And look at how many people went back to the store the next day only to be told they can't get a refund now they opened it.