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mhg83 06-23-10 05:37 PM

Return Of The Jedi: Revised strategies
 
Credit goes to a friend on Facebook:

So, I’m drunk and watching Star Wars-Return of the Jedi. I realize I would have done things a little differently at Endor. Here is my break down:

I would not have had Ewok support at the final battle because I would have slaughtered/Light Sabered/ Blasterd the shiza out of them. Why? Because I would not have allowed them to capture me as Luke did. Why? Because there was no time to dick around and have C-3PO do story time the night before a major battle to win their trust. What would I have been doing in lieu of hugging the big Teddy Bears? Good question.

I would have been using the cover of dark to do a RECON on the field generator site I planned on assaulting the next day; thereby possibly knowing that the Emperor had an entire Legion of his best Storm Troopers waiting to ambush me. I would not have been captured on my assault the bunker battle drill because I would have had a basic thing like rear security to ensure that all of eight Storm Troopers didn’t capture my entire assault team.

Now, to play devil’s advocate, the Ewoks might have come after me in the end instead of the empire due to mass slaughter. I may have lost the battle because of this error. This is irrelevant. I think my hero GEN Hon Solo batched the mission and mealy got lucky.

:lol: a much better strategy imo

Solid Snake 06-23-10 07:00 PM

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the best Storm Troopers still can't shoot for shit.

Artman 06-23-10 07:14 PM

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I've often wondered what a final battle/plotline would;ve looked like without the 2nd Death Star setup. They infiltrate Coruscant for something... fly into the planet core?, Luke/Vader duel at the top of the Emperor's Tower, etc. A final scene with Luke at the Jedi Temple ruins, etc..

TGM 06-23-10 08:57 PM

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often, really? ;)

resinrats 06-23-10 09:46 PM

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I'd have flown the fleet to the other side of the Death Star so it couldn't shoot my ships up.

Rob V 06-24-10 07:15 AM

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I would have nuked Endor

rexinnih 06-24-10 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10229728)
I would have nuked Endor

/thread

Groucho 06-24-10 09:47 AM

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Watch it again. Han dies in the carbonite, and the entire film is his deathbed dream. All the clues are there.

Sean O'Hara 06-24-10 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10229728)
I would have nuked Endor

Don't worry:

http://gerrycanavan.files.wordpress....holocaust.jpeg


Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10229993)
Watch it again. Han dies in the carbonite, and the entire film is his deathbed dream. All the clues are there.

Yeah, why else did Lucas want Lynch to direct it?

Drexl 06-24-10 10:51 AM

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Yep, this guy with too much time on his hands explains it quite well: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html

toddly6666 06-24-10 10:56 AM

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I wonder how would fans take it if the movie ended with Han, Lea, Luke, and Chewbacca getting roasted to death by the Ewoks.

story 06-24-10 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 10229728)
I would have nuked Endor

If you read that annotated screenplay book, apparently there were scenes of Moff Jerjerrod trying to do exactly that before the Death Star went kablooey.

...I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.

Trevor 06-24-10 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by toddly6666 (Post 10230195)
I wonder how would fans take it if the movie ended with Han, Lea, Luke, and Chewbacca getting roasted to death by the Ewoks.

That's the Ruggero Deodato edit.

toddly6666 06-24-10 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by trevor (Post 10230222)
that's the ruggero deodato edit.

:lol:

DRG 06-24-10 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10229993)
Watch it again. Han dies in the carbonite, and the entire film is his deathbed dream. All the clues are there.

Revisiting familiar locales (Tattooine, Death Star), convenient wish fulfillment fantasies (Leia "suddenly" turns out to be Luke's sister, arch enemy Jabba is killed)... and the slave Leia outfit speaks for itself.

milo bloom 06-24-10 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dogmatica (Post 10230207)
If you read that annotated screenplay book, apparently there were scenes of Moff Jerjerrod trying to do exactly that before the Death Star went kablooey.

...I can't believe I just wrote that sentence.

It's also in the novelization.

There's so many little goodies in the novel that would really help the movie, even though I enjoy it, I still miss those bits from the novel.

The other strategy that actually is going on, and we just don't see it, is the other ground troops that came down with our heroes. If we had seen them in the battle taking out some of the stormtroopers, it would have made the Ewoks far more believable as a additional forces, and not the main body of the ground force.

harrydoyle 06-24-10 04:52 PM

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I've heard the novelizations are superior to the films in almost every regard. Going to have to check them out eventually, I've been sitting on that idea for like 5 years now.

milo bloom 06-24-10 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by harrydoyle (Post 10230906)
I've heard the novelizations are superior to the films in almost every regard. Going to have to check them out eventually, I've been sitting on that idea for like 5 years now.

Interestingly enough, the worst of the six is Empire Strikes Back. So much of that story's success is due to Irvin Kershner's hand creating the mood and feel on set.

But yes, all six are still well worth the read, especially Revenge of the Sith. That's just fantastic.

Deadman31 06-24-10 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10230168)
Yep, this guy with too much time on his hands explains it quite well: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/holocaust.html


Honestly, things like this are the main reason I no longer enjoy Star Wars. I try to put these wacky theories out of my head but then I watch the movie and I spend the whole time thinking about the theories. I wish I could back to when I was a kid.

harrydoyle 06-25-10 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 10231099)
Interestingly enough, the worst of the six is Empire Strikes Back. So much of that story's success is due to Irvin Kershner's hand creating the mood and feel on set.

But yes, all six are still well worth the read, especially Revenge of the Sith. That's just fantastic.

Damn, never would have figured. Thanks for the heads up though. ROTS I have to figure is a really dark novel. What's the cheapest place to get them? Amazon?

milo bloom 06-25-10 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadman31 (Post 10231278)
Honestly, things like this are the main reason I no longer enjoy Star Wars. I try to put these wacky theories out of my head but then I watch the movie and I spend the whole time thinking about the theories. I wish I could back to when I was a kid.

Lucas himself has come out and said this (the Endor holocaust) doesn't happen, and the folks that maintain SW continuity rank Word of Mouth from Lucas as top tier information.

He doesn't give an explanation, but I'm sure there's also folks that have figured it out.


Originally Posted by harrydoyle (Post 10232042)
Damn, never would have figured. Thanks for the heads up though. ROTS I have to figure is a really dark novel. What's the cheapest place to get them? Amazon?

ROTS isn't just the best because it's the darkest, it's the best because it's well written dark.

I bought mine ages ago, probably did the bookclub thing to get them super cheap. I'm sure you could find them used very cheaply as they were all mass-produced (esp. The Phantom Menace hardcover, which was released with 4-5 different cover arts).


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