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When has a film failed?

More of a response to the "Movies that succeeded" thread. As opposed to movies that did everything you hoped they would and clicked, this is about movies that failed in just about every way imaginable to do anything for you. It didn't entertain, didn't stimulate you intellectually, maybe even had you willing to pay double the admission cost if you could just get the time of your life you wasted back after watching it.

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-Godzilla '98: I am such a big Godzilla fan, and this thing sucked in just about every way it could.

-Tideland-a big, sloppy, mess of a movie, and I'm a big fan of Gilliam.

-All About Steve- made it through the first 45 minutes and then returned it to Netflix. I could understand Bullock making this early in her career when she was taking whatever work she could, but this was in between The Proposal and Blind Side. I guess I can't complain too much, as I just rented it to see if it truly was as bad as they had said. It was!

-Diabolique (1996 w/Sharon Stone)- utter waste of time for everyone involved and myself.
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Re: When has a film failed?

Wong Kar Wai films
Old 06-09-10, 04:10 PM
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Episode I.

Eps II & III sucked as well, but I was ready for their suckage, kinda got blindsided by The Phantom Menace.
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Re: When has a film failed?

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD View Post
-Tideland-a big, sloppy, mess of a movie, and I'm a big fan of Gilliam.
As a fan of Gilliam's work I went to see this despite all the negative reviews.
I came out the comeplete opposite, I thought it succeeded in fulfilling all my expectations.
This to me is one of Gilliam's most personal works in which he was able to do as he pleased without the interference of the studio.
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Re: When has a film failed?

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Wong Kar Wai films
Explain that. I'm not grilling you but..I just want to know why that is.
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a Uwe Boll production
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Re: When has a film failed?

Originally Posted by MartinBlank View Post
Episode I.

Eps II & III sucked as well, but I was ready for their suckage, kinda got blindsided by The Phantom Menace.
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I know I'll probably be hated and despised for this, but I was ready to walk out on The Dark Knight. I've never bought Christian Bale as Batman/Bruce Wayne and the whole "ultra realism" approach used by Nolan I thought was entirely inappropriate for a DC superhero film. If you examine the comic, yes, Batman exists in a world full of vile and scum, but there's still a fancifulness about it that's completely lacking in both BB and TDK.

Another one I hated was The Half-Blood Prince. The movie just made me squirm in my seat, which surprised me greatly as I rather enjoyed the previous Harry Potter films. Everyone seemed to forget what they were doing and how to act in their quest to find the perfect snog.

A friend kinda/sorta dragged me to Club Dread. I smiled exactly once, when they were doing the Pac-Man sequence, but the rest of the movie was, well, dreadful. The complete opposite of Super Troopers, which I thought was side-splitting. But I have an extremely narrow success factor when it comes to comedies. The ones that try too hard (which Club Dread did every single awful second) are atrocious.

I also wasn't thrilled with the new Trek and was glad when it was over. Sorry, but I'm just a die-hard old school fan, especially when it comes to Shatner as Kirk.
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^ FWIW, I didn't post TPM as I didn't/couldn't really see the suckage upon first viewing. I was so happy to see a SW again I didn't care. However, with time it has gotten dangerously close to that territory. Thanks goodness for a strong opening and cool light saber duel at the end.
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I try to be selective about movies I go to the trouble and expense of seeing in a theater but there were two where I left the theater thinking I'd wasted my money and my time:

Taxi Driver
Marathon Man


The fact that I can remember them after so many years is because the dislike was considerable.
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Re: When has a film failed?

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I try to be selective about movies I go to the trouble and expense of seeing in a theater but there were two where I left the theater thinking I'd wasted my money and my time:

Taxi Driver
Marathon Man


The fact that I can remember them after so many years is because the dislike was considerable.
Marathon Man I agree with, but Taxi Driver may look very different to you today and I think you should give it another chance.
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Re: When has a film failed?

When they are boring. You can be an interesting failure and not be terrible. But complete boredom is the worst crime a movie can commit, IMO. Unintentional stupidity is a close second, whether that be the directorial technique, the writing of the plot or characters, etc.
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Re: When has a film failed?

Crash.

When a movie that is preaching tolerance and anti-hate, makes me so full of hate after watching it, it has failed.
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Re: When has a film failed?

I think there are two distinctly possible interpretations of this thread.

1) I didn't like the movie, therefore it failed.
2) what the filmmaker set out to do ultimately didn't work, and therefore it was a failure.

I, personally, don't think a film has failed if it is boring, or if I don't appreciate it. I am thinking of Jim Jarmusch and "The Limits of Control," a movie I despised, and yet I think it succeeded for what Jarmusch wanted to do. I believe Jarmusch was interested in working with film, an art form, in a way that I found totally unbearable.

So I guess i will never consider Wong Kar Wai's film's failures, as I believe he knows what he is going for and succeeds.
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Re: When has a film failed?

Halloween II (2009) - Rob Zombie's "fuck you" to all fans of Michael Myers. And I thought the series' nadir would have eternally been Myers kung-fu fighting Busta Rhymes... and I was oh so wrong.

Godzilla '98 - I've gotta agree with the OP. As a lifelong Big G fan, I was rabid with anticipation for this film. When I found leaked photos online of the design, my heart sank. But I still held out some hope. When I saw the film, I wanted nothing more than to murder Emmerich and the entire cast.

The Curious Case of Benjamin Button - I love Fincher and his body of work, and all the great reviews for this one made me think it'd be an amazing piece of cinema. Instead, it turned out to be one of the most boring, pointless films I've ever seen in my life.
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Re: When has a film failed?

If I am still bored after watching a movie for 1 hour then it's a failure, stuff like
Avatar
There Will Be Blood
The Engrish Patient
10,000 BC
The Spirit
Slumdog Millionaire
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Re: When has a film failed?

Originally Posted by Bobby Shalom View Post
I, personally, don't think a film has failed if it is boring, or if I don't appreciate it. I am thinking of Jim Jarmusch and "The Limits of Control," a movie I despised, and yet I think it succeeded for what Jarmusch wanted to do. I believe Jarmusch was interested in working with film, an art form, in a way that I found totally unbearable.
Yeah, except that can be chalked up to the purposeful style of the film. If the viewer is at odds with the style of the film, that's different than a movie that is truly and genuinely boring.
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Tyler Perry has failed. He should be sentenced to life in prison for his preacher cheap romantic christian comedy movies that make me want to strangle Jesus.
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Yeah, except that can be chalked up to the purposeful style of the film. If the viewer is at odds with the style of the film, that's different than a movie that is truly and genuinely boring.
I'm not sure I agree with an absolute truth, as in "truly and genuinely boring."

I found The English Patient boring, others loved it. I loved Lawrence of Arabia, other found it boring.

Isn't a viewer finding a film boring just a viewer that is usually at odds with the style?
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Marathon Man I agree with, but Taxi Driver may look very different to you today and I think you should give it another chance.
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Originally Posted by Bobby Shalom View Post
I'm not sure I agree with an absolute truth, as in "truly and genuinely boring."

I found The English Patient boring, others loved it. I loved Lawrence of Arabia, other found it boring.

Isn't a viewer finding a film boring just a viewer that is usually at odds with the style?
Well, sometimes the dullness of the movie would not be attributable to anything intentional on behalf of the filmmakers.
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Re: When has a film failed?

Redundant, but necessary.. Starfleet 90210... mass marketed a classic with soap opera cliches, bad melodrama and a "too cool for school" attitude that was excruciating...
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Redundant, but necessary.. Starfleet 90210... mass marketed a classic with soap opera cliches, bad melodrama and a "too cool for school" attitude that was excruciating...
You had me scratching my head for a minute before I got the joke. Very good!
(And I agree.)
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Let me add Barry Lyndon. I know people praise it as one of Kubrick's finer works, and I love watching his movies overall. However. this bored me too tears and put me to sleep within the first half hour. I am certain I will revisit it someday when I'm in more of a mood to see something like it, but for now, it's a movie that failed.

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