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Old 08-01-17, 10:20 PM
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Re: Stephen King's The Dark Tower - (2017, D: Arcel) S: Elba, McConaughey

Most interesting tidbit from the Variety article:

Arcel, however, had never worked on this complicated a project, and he found himself in over his head on the $66 million fantasy film, say several sources.
Goddamn but that's cheap, especially given the amount of CG in the trailers. On the bright side, it should turn a profit easily enough.
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Old 08-01-17, 11:01 PM
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Re: Stephen King's The Dark Tower - (2017, D: Arcel) S: Elba, McConaughey

Originally Posted by stingermck View Post
Surprised to see this has a 1h 35m run time. Seems short for the material.
Shorter than that when you take out the credits.
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Old 08-02-17, 01:50 AM
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Re: Stephen King's The Dark Tower - (2017, D: Arcel) S: Elba, McConaughey

Given how bloated most movies are lately, I'm fine with the running time, especially if each scene moves the story along at a good pace. Given the trailer, I don't see why the film needs to be 2+ hours long. I haven't read the books, and I'm glad I haven't, since I plan to see this and wouldn't want the distraction of the book in my head while watching.
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Originally Posted by Brack View Post
Given how bloated most movies are lately, I'm fine with the running time, especially if each scene moves the story along at a good pace. Given the trailer, I don't see why the film needs to be 2+ hours long. I haven't read the books, and I'm glad I haven't, since I plan to see this and wouldn't want the distraction of the book in my head while watching.
But there's a difference between 2+ hours and 88 minutes (or so) this will be. Seems like the good pace will be at the expense of characters people won't give two shits about.
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Re: Stephen King's The Dark Tower - (2017, D: Arcel) S: Elba, McConaughey

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This is a very difficult property to translate and I doubt many executives even "get" the material.
Yeah, it is going to be a difficult property to translate to the screen. It has some really bizarre elements in it. The whole saga is divisive among King fans. It's a seven book series that interconnects everything King has written, and very much an untested property. It's likely a very difficult property to handle for a studio. How many films should we plan for? How much of this weird shit do we include like Oy, the giant bear with a satellite dish on its head, etc?
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Theatrical was NEVER the right fit for a Dark Tower adaptation.
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Scott Mendelson said it was better than he thought.
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The Wrap:
The 95-minute culmination of years-long efforts to bring The Dark Tower to the big screen is a complete disaster, a limp, barely coherent shell of a movie.
IndieWire:
King's Dark Tower universe is rich with cultural reference points and is always totally unpredictable, but in cutting it down to consolidate its highlights, The Dark Tower can't even shoot the most necessary bullets straight.
Blu-ray.com:
Now finally on the screen, and "The Dark Tower" is a dud. And for most casual viewers out there, a baffling dud.
JoBlo's Movie Emporium:
At a mere ninety minutes, it feels like one of those YouTube fan edits of an entire series.
Variety (Positive):
It's a highly competent and watchable paranoid metaphysical video game that doesn't overstay its welcome, includes some luridly entertaining visual effects, and -- it has to be said -- summons an emotional impact of close to zero.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? View Post
Scott Mendelson said it was better than he thought.


Not exactly a glowing endorsement.
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^ Well, I'm friends with him and I was quoting his Facebook post, which is not worded the same as his Twitter.
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I guess we need to put our hope in Pennywise giving us a kickass IT movie.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? View Post
^ Well, I'm friends with him and I was quoting his Facebook post, which is not worded the same as his Twitter.
"friends" friends or "has seen my Motivational Board" friends?

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These reviews are disappointing. Lowering my expectations drastically.
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Richard Roeper (gave it a 1/4):

A great actor giving a terrible performance as the lead villain is but one of the many, many, MANY unfortunate elements in The Dark Tower.
Although oddly, submitted as fresh on RT.
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Re: Stephen King's The Dark Tower - (2017, D: Arcel) S: Elba, McConaughey

Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Theatrical was NEVER the right fit for a Dark Tower adaptation.
From what I know about it, I always expected a "Frank Darabont's The Dark Tower". Epic, meaty, dense storytelling. As it sounds, we're getting a quick, breezy adaptation. More like Barry Sonnenfeld's The Dark Tower.

I'm still going to see. Mostly because it's been so long in the making. And I still like the feeling that the trailer gives.
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Old 08-03-17, 04:39 PM
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Okay, as I have mentioned before I have read the first two books and don't want to have future installments ruined. Would this movie ruin that for me or just inspire me to experience the story in a proper manner by finishing the series?
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Okay, as I have mentioned before I have read the first two books and don't want to have future installments ruined. Would this movie ruin that for me or just inspire me to experience the story in a proper manner by finishing the series?
No idea about spoilers but the movie might be bad enough to ruin the series for you.
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From the look of things, it doesn't look like it spoils anything - not even the first book. It seems as if it is its own thing. I would also say with the short runtime there can't be time to get into anything later than book 1.
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It's fucking horrible.

The 3 leads were cast well but they had no story to work with and the editing was atrocious. It was extremely choppy.

1/4 is generous and I'm not precious about the source material and I lowered my expectations. It only had to do two things for me and it did neither.
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And those two things are?
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Spoiler:
Simply begin with "The Man in Black fled across the desert and The Gunslinger followed...
Spoiler:
it's in the movie but it's a complete throw away


Spoiler:
Show us the the horn actually had some bearing as to why this cycle was different than the one we read. Otherwise, it's not a sequel and it's completely arbitrary
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Spoiler:
Show us the the horn actually had some bearing as to why this cycle was different than the one we read. Otherwise, it's not a sequel and it's completely arbitrary
Regarding that point....

Spoiler:
I always assumed that Roland having the horn in the movie was basically a license for the movie to make changes to the story by claiming it's a "sequel" so as not to upset purists; I never expected the movie to place much emphasis on what the horn meant.

That said, I don't think the horn was ever supposed to have a practical impact on the next loop. It was more of a symbol, a "sigil" as stated in the book, of a more metaphysical change. I've gone into more detail on my thoughts about this in another thread
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Not liking these developments. First, not a fan of the trailer - looks to sacrifice the spirit of the books for blowing things up with tons of CGI. Also, the run time and August release date (albeit early August) are troubling. Unfortunately, my hopes have diminished.
Looks like it's actually worse than I feared. The trailer, runtime, August dumping-ground release date - everything about this points to a near disaster.
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Regarding that point....

Spoiler:
I always assumed that Roland having the horn in the movie was basically a license for the movie to make changes to the story by claiming it's a "sequel" so as not to upset purists; I never expected the movie to place much emphasis on what the horn meant.

That said, I don't think the horn was ever supposed to have a practical impact on the next loop. It was more of a symbol, a "sigil" as stated in the book, of a more metaphysical change. I've gone into more detail on my thoughts about this in another thread
Sure, I don't disagree, but the fact it wasn't even mentioned (or shown?) was a real bummer.
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