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Who's your favorite martial artist?
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Yuen Baio is really underrated. Sammo and Jackie totally overshadow him. I'd still kill to get a film with all the HK greats in there.
Tony Jaa is a marital artist but...well his films suck. He's sooo unconvincing in his films. Plus...how do we know he's all that great if it's only a movie? His little public promos of him "defending" himself aren't even great. I mean, even Bruce Lee fighting was different from his actual martial artistry. They do it to sell the motion of it. Where a straight forward punch or kick would work....how about a roundhouse kick to the face? and etc etc. Based off his films, he's not a great martial artist. As a stuntman? Fuck yeah...he's great at that. And therefore...why he's not a fav.
Tony Jaa is a marital artist but...well his films suck. He's sooo unconvincing in his films. Plus...how do we know he's all that great if it's only a movie? His little public promos of him "defending" himself aren't even great. I mean, even Bruce Lee fighting was different from his actual martial artistry. They do it to sell the motion of it. Where a straight forward punch or kick would work....how about a roundhouse kick to the face? and etc etc. Based off his films, he's not a great martial artist. As a stuntman? Fuck yeah...he's great at that. And therefore...why he's not a fav.
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Well favorite is one thing, and for that my choice it Jet Li.
Most legitimate is another thing, and Jet Li also takes that. I forget how many gold medals he won at the Chinese Wushu championship but it was way over 10. He is a prodigy at the stuff. He was defeating older, far more experienced people in his early teens.
Most legitimate is another thing, and Jet Li also takes that. I forget how many gold medals he won at the Chinese Wushu championship but it was way over 10. He is a prodigy at the stuff. He was defeating older, far more experienced people in his early teens.
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Yeah, I agree; really underrated. I'm sure even Bruce thought he was a badass since Yuen doubled for him and worked on his movies.
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Well favorite is one thing, and for that my choice it Jet Li.
Most legitimate is another thing, and Jet Li also takes that. I forget how many gold medals he won at the Chinese Wushu championship but it was way over 10. He is a prodigy at the stuff. He was defeating older, far more experienced people in his early teens.
Most legitimate is another thing, and Jet Li also takes that. I forget how many gold medals he won at the Chinese Wushu championship but it was way over 10. He is a prodigy at the stuff. He was defeating older, far more experienced people in his early teens.
Edit: Here's the DVD of the clips I was referring to.
http://www.amazon.com/This-Kung-Fu-J...1160141&sr=8-1
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Had to go with Jet Li.
I really respect Donnie Yen's mastery of the staff (bo), and of course Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee have their own well-deserved multiple reasons to be at the top of the list.
However, IMO, Fearless, the movie about Huo Yuanjia, was amazing, and I thought Jet Li's performance in it was fantastic. Add to that the fact that he uses Tai Chi as part of his martial arts style (albeit at a much higher speed than the retirees out on the beach in the early AM). And, I loved the story about how when they made the movie "The One," test audiences laughed at the fight scenes because they thought they had been artificially sped up. The fight scenes you see in the actual theatrical release of the movie are actually slowed down to look more realistic. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's pretty cool to think so.
I really respect Donnie Yen's mastery of the staff (bo), and of course Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee have their own well-deserved multiple reasons to be at the top of the list.
However, IMO, Fearless, the movie about Huo Yuanjia, was amazing, and I thought Jet Li's performance in it was fantastic. Add to that the fact that he uses Tai Chi as part of his martial arts style (albeit at a much higher speed than the retirees out on the beach in the early AM). And, I loved the story about how when they made the movie "The One," test audiences laughed at the fight scenes because they thought they had been artificially sped up. The fight scenes you see in the actual theatrical release of the movie are actually slowed down to look more realistic. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's pretty cool to think so.
The great thing about "the One" is that Jet Li uses a different fighting style for each character to seperate them during fights. It's pretty nerdy, but also really cool.
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The Brucester, alone for the purity of his fight scenes, not to mention his virtuosity as a fighter. No wires or other nonsense.
The others have all had great moments, especially Biao, Yen, and Li.
The others have all had great moments, especially Biao, Yen, and Li.
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Well, you gotta understand Chuck is using his Karate Champion skills and not wire-fu like Jet Lee .
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Fuck, I accidentally voted for Jet Li when I meant to vote for Bruce Lee. Hands down the best martial artists on that list.
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Since this is all about film then I'd have to base this on more than just martial art skilz - screen presence, acting ability, martial artistry ..and lastly, fucking attitude (of course only when appropriate).
Bar none - Bruce Li
Jet Li is my personal favorite however - super fast and amazing martial artist skills, but he does not have the chops (no pun intended) in acting or screen presence in most cases. His facial expressions/reactions remind me of a lost child some times and I can't explain why. Not bold enough.
Donny Yen can raise the attitude bar, has the skills and insight, and is utterly bad ass but his acting ability is the shit (imho) - and I mean the bad version.
Tony Jaa is powerful and has the skills, but everything else is weak, weak, weak. He's essentially a heavily flawed Jackie Chan Muay Thai rip-off artist ...which is fine, but in the grand scheme end of day sort of way leaves him flailing away with no back up.
Jackie Chan has charisma, style and acting ability ...but I just haven't seen enough of his works to put him up top. Most of the films I've seen him in (latter half of career) I just don't take the guy serious enough ...or with enough attitude to get me behind him.
Sammo Hung is a talented martial artist. I still can't believe he moves as well as he does for his size. Phenomenal! And the boy can act. But the screen presence just doesn't do anything for me ...old or new films (Magnificent Butcher to SPL). I would admit that I haven't seen enough to put him up top, but I respect the guy for his abilities and the impact that he has had on the martial art film world. The only problem is that if Bruce Li had not been taken so early on ...the impact would have been greater.
Any others, with respect, I haven't witnessed enough for an opinion. Bruce Li suits every criteria I have in mind as a blend between martial artistry and film - easily.
Bar none - Bruce Li
Jet Li is my personal favorite however - super fast and amazing martial artist skills, but he does not have the chops (no pun intended) in acting or screen presence in most cases. His facial expressions/reactions remind me of a lost child some times and I can't explain why. Not bold enough.
Donny Yen can raise the attitude bar, has the skills and insight, and is utterly bad ass but his acting ability is the shit (imho) - and I mean the bad version.
Tony Jaa is powerful and has the skills, but everything else is weak, weak, weak. He's essentially a heavily flawed Jackie Chan Muay Thai rip-off artist ...which is fine, but in the grand scheme end of day sort of way leaves him flailing away with no back up.
Jackie Chan has charisma, style and acting ability ...but I just haven't seen enough of his works to put him up top. Most of the films I've seen him in (latter half of career) I just don't take the guy serious enough ...or with enough attitude to get me behind him.
Sammo Hung is a talented martial artist. I still can't believe he moves as well as he does for his size. Phenomenal! And the boy can act. But the screen presence just doesn't do anything for me ...old or new films (Magnificent Butcher to SPL). I would admit that I haven't seen enough to put him up top, but I respect the guy for his abilities and the impact that he has had on the martial art film world. The only problem is that if Bruce Li had not been taken so early on ...the impact would have been greater.
Any others, with respect, I haven't witnessed enough for an opinion. Bruce Li suits every criteria I have in mind as a blend between martial artistry and film - easily.
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Bruce Li came along as the Bruce Lee impersonator.
As far as real martial artists, none match Bruce Lee. However, in his onscreen fights, he has even said himself, that they are over-exaggerated movements. Other than the face off with O'Hara, I don't really care for most of his film's fight choreography.
Last edited by devilshalo; 12-18-09 at 07:55 PM.
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Regardless of the name argument, on screen martial arts should be what is most debatable. The reference between "Lee" or "Li" is secondary I would think. Then again .....
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You should really check out his stuff like Wheels on Meals, Dragons Forever, Operation Condor 1 and 2. That will change your mind about his skills
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Possibly my favourite Lee "moment" is from his fight against Bob Wall in Return of the Dragon. The move in which he, in a matter of a split second, kicks Wall's ankle and then his head, is just stunning skill and speed.
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Oh I don't doubt Chan's skills - I just don't take the guy serious enough. But I appreciate the recommendations ...I really need to see his earlier works. Are the Drunken Master films some of his best highlights?