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TGM 12-17-09 01:40 PM

movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Can anyone think of movies/sequels that either totally negate, or contradict events that happen in a previous movie?

For example, the upcoming Dead Pool movie, is basically negating the events with that character in Wolverine Origins.

The worst example I could think of is Young Guns 2 which wildly contradicts the little text blurbs about the characters at the end of Young Guns 1.

RichC2 12-17-09 01:41 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Reboots do that, no? Batman Begins comes to mind.

Superman Returns asks us to mercifully forget 3 and 4.

ScissorPuppy 12-17-09 01:49 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 9895053)
Reboots do that, no? Batman Begins comes to mind.

Batman Returns in some ways. Visually At least.
Batman Forever in some ways, much different tone and cast.

The Hammer Frankenstien and Dracula continuities are all over the place.

One of the original Pink Panther flims totally ignored the previous films plot.

islandclaws 12-17-09 02:00 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
The Devil's Rejects ignores the fact that Otis was an albino in House of 1000 Corpses.

Hokeyboy 12-17-09 02:18 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Highander 2 blatantly contradicts Highlander. And the third Highlander contradicts both of them.

That's why there can be only one.

Giles 12-17-09 02:20 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Troll 2
:lol:

yoshimi 12-17-09 02:25 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Isn't just about everything that Obiwan says in the original Star Wars trilogy contradicted in the prequels?

Hokeyboy 12-17-09 02:26 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by yoshimi (Post 9895134)
Isn't just about everything that Obiwan says in the original Star Wars trilogy contradicted in the prequels?

[Dumbass_Fanboys] "George Lucas had the whole 9-movie storyline planned out in 1975." [/Dumbass_Fanboys]

Giles 12-17-09 02:30 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
'Regarding Henry' and 'Henry V'

Ash Ketchum 12-17-09 02:35 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
There was a period there, 2000-on, when nearly every Godzilla movie disregarded every previous Godzilla movie. We're talking GODZILLA 2000, GODZILLA X MEGAGUIRUS, GODZILLA...GIANT MONSTERS SHOWDOWN, ... X MECHAGODZILLA, ...TOKYO SOS and FINAL WARS. I don't recall which of this group actually continued from the one just before it, but there may have been one. But it got very confusing.

DRG 12-17-09 03:18 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Halloween H20, as summed up in this excerpt from its Wikipedia entry:
As originally conceived, the plot device in which Laurie had faked her death was written explicitly to account for her reported "death" in Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers, and the original story treatment for H20 acknowledged the events depicted in the fourth through sixth films in the series, including the existence and death of Laurie's daughter, Jamie Lloyd. However, the filmmakers ultimately chose to ignore the continuity of the previous three sequels. Although Laurie's faked death remained in the script, the scenes mentioning Jamie were removed from the story, and the film's dialogue was adjusted to indicate that Michael Myers had not been heard from in the twenty years since the night depicted in the first two films.

So it can be looked at as either: 1) ignoring films 4-6, or 2) Laurie Strode fakes her death to move away and start a new family, in the process abandoning her young daughter Jamie and leaving her to believe her mother is dead.

emachine12 12-17-09 03:27 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Until Casino Royale '06 and Quantum of Solace f'd up the Bond formula, very little if any ties are there between the James Bond films. The only glimpses we got in the classic Bonds were the subtile references to Mrs. Bond, Quarrel, and of course... Blofeld.

The Dalton and Brosnan films have none of these references though.

rexinnih 12-17-09 03:33 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 9895121)
Highander 2 blatantly contradicts Highlander. And the third Highlander contradicts both of them.

That's why there can be only one.

This is what came to mind for me. Of course assuming that I acknowledge the existence of more than one Highlander Movie-which I don't.

Meglos 12-17-09 03:41 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by emachine12 (Post 9895235)
Until Casino Royale '06 and Quantum of Solace f'd up the Bond formula, very little if any ties are there between the James Bond films. The only glimpses we got in the classic Bonds were the subtile references to Mrs. Bond, Quarrel, and of course... Blofeld.

The Dalton and Brosnan films have none of these references though.

Not entirely true. In License to Kill, Bond's previous marriage is alluded to. And in Goldeneye, when Bond is about to go off on his mission, M warns him not to pursue a personal vendetta with the man he thinks killed 006 - itself another allusion to the events of License to Kill...

pinata242 12-17-09 03:42 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Leonard Part 6 pissed all over the first 5.

OldBoy 12-17-09 03:57 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Matrix: Reloaded & Revolutions disregarded the fact that the original was great.

hardercore 12-17-09 04:01 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 9895312)
Matrix: Reloaded & Revolutions disregarded the fact that the original was great.

Along the same lines of this genius humour, I pose that Quantum of Solace asked you to forget that Casino Royale was a good movie.

Groucho 12-17-09 04:08 PM

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28 Days Later drops all the characters and storylines that made 28 Days such a great flick, and goes in a somewhat different direction.

Rockmjd23 12-17-09 05:26 PM

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^:lol:

Rockmjd23 12-17-09 05:34 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 

Originally Posted by DRG (Post 9895217)
So it can be looked at as either: 1) ignoring films 4-6, or 2) Laurie Strode fakes her death to move away and start a new family, in the process abandoning her young daughter Jamie and leaving her to believe her mother is dead.

Also, Halloween 4 disregards the fact that
Spoiler:
Michael got his eyes shot out in Halloween II


Jason Goes to Hell ignored the end of Friday the 13th part VIII

Kevin M. Dean 12-17-09 06:08 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Evil Dead 2
Army of Darkness

inri222 12-17-09 06:21 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Porky's II : The Next Day

At the end of Porky's, you see Mickey on crutches and covered in bandages after getting beaten up by Porky. In the beginning of Porky's 2, Mickey has miraculously healed.

Matthew Chmiel 12-17-09 06:24 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
Saw IV when it comes to the last ten minutes of the director's cut (only) of Saw III.


Originally Posted by Kevin M. Dean (Post 9895517)
Evil Dead 2
Army of Darkness

I can agree on Army of Darkness, but disagree on Evil Dead II. It runs the audience through the events of the last film in ten minutes before picking up exactly where they left off.

resinrats 12-17-09 07:53 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
The recent Hulk movies.

James Bond movies, especially when the actor changes

cactusoly 12-17-09 08:02 PM

Re: movies that ask you to disregard events of previous movie
 
In "On Her Majesty's Sectret Service" Bond and Blofeld don't know each ofther although Blofeld was revieled in "You Only Live Twice" that one always bothered me


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