How do you grade the Disney hand-drawn animated films?
 

A+ Pinocchio
A Beauty and the Beast
A Dumbo
A- Aladdin
A- Cinderella
A- Lady and the Tramp
A- The Lion King
B+ Hercules
B+ Tarzan
B+ The Little Mermaid
B+ Treasure Planet
B Snow White
B Bambi
B- 101 Dalmations
B- Mulan
B- The Aristocats
B- The Fox and the Hound
B- The Rescuers
C+ Princess and the Frog
C Alice in Wonderland
C Atlantis
C Brother Bear
C Pocahontas
C Peter Pan
C Robin Hood
C The Sword in the Stone
C- Sleeping Beauty
C- The Black Cauldron
C- The Jungle Book
D+ The Rescuers Down Under

NOTE: these are the only ones I've seen.

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Fantasia?

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Here's the list from Wikipedia:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi
Saludos Amigos
The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
Cinderella
Alice in Wonderland
Peter Pan
Lady and the Tramp
Sleeping Beauty
One Hundred and One Dalmatians
The Sword in the Stone
The Jungle Book
Robin Hood
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
The Rescuers
The Fox and the Hound
The Black Cauldron
The Great Mouse Detective
Oliver & Company
The Little Mermaid
The Rescuers Down Under
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
Pocahontas
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Hercules
Mulan
Tarzan

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Without the plusses and minuses:

A Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
A Pinocchio
A Fantasia
A Aladdin
B Bambi
B Beauty and the Beast
B Lady and the Tramp
C Sleeping Beauty
C One Hundred and One Dalmatians
D The Jungle Book
D Robin Hood
D Alice in Wonderland

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I'd give them all AAA+.

Excepting Robin Hood, Black Cauldron, Hunchback and Emperor's New Groove... because I have not seen them. I have seen enough of each to let me know that, frankly, I have no interest watching them in their entirety.

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Why stop at Tarzan?

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Hold up. Are you grading these films based on their animation? Or story, etc? Because anyone who rates the animation for "Sleeping Beauty" below an A+ should be banned from the board indefinitely. And shame on you.

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I was basing my grades on the film itself as a whole. Sleeping Beauty is certainly animated nicely, but it sends me into a deep sleeping coma whenever I try watching it.

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Most people just watch it and not try to act it out. :D

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Rottentomatoes ranked the Disney animated films recently, although they included the 4 CGI films they made (Bolt, Chicken Little, Dinosaur, Meet the Robinsons):

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/guides...vies/comments/

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Really. They may not be the cream of the crop but they are still considered part of the classics line. Here are the rest:

Emperor's New Groove
Lilo & Stitch
Atlantis
Fantasia 2000
Brother Bear
Home on the Range
Treasure Planet
the Princess and the Frog

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What is "the classics line"? Because "Atlantis" and "Treasure Planet" would never be considered Disney classics. And weren't huge box-office hits (83M and 38M respectively). On that list, "Lilo & Stitch" is the most beloved. Followed by "The Emperor's New Groove". "Brother Bear" got mostly negative reviews but still managed to pull in 85M. "Fantasia 2000" was a hit at IMAX but bombed in regular theaters a few months later. "Home on the Range" got mixed reviews and was an underperformer at the box-office (50M). The jury is still out for "The Princess and the Frog". But with a 25M opening this weekend, that looks like it'll top off around 80-100M in it's entire run.

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I don't care at all for Sleeping Beauty either :shrug: Then again, I feel that way about a lot of the classics that i've rewatched recently after buying them on Blu-ray (Snow White and Pinocchio)

And the reason I mentioned it is because Emperor's New Groove and Lilo and Stitch are actually two of my favorite Disney animated films :)

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Box Office success has nothing to do with whether a film qualifies as part of the "classics" line. Disney determines what is and what isn't. All the films I listed are considered part of the classics. I think it mostly has to do with them being animated by Disney proper and not a lower tier studio like the DuckTales movie.

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Didn't we have this discussion in the Movie Sheep game? :lol:

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Best Disney animated features:

BAMBI
SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS
PINOCCHIO
FANTASIA

And that's pretty much it.

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The question was "hand drawn". I chose Fantasia 2000 as the movie that was computer generated instead of cel animation. I could be mistaken.

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Fantasia was a mixture of hand-drawn pieces and 2 CGI pieces.

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Which I think was the argument in the Sheep game :lol:

I think the distinction is probably meant by 3D Animated films and 2D, and not necessarily hand drawn since most animation these days is done with some computer work.

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I realize box-office has nothing to do with the quality of a film. And in this case, it clearly doesn't matter to Disney either. Since they can easily slap the word "Classic" above any title. Leave it to Disney!

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I think, in the case, the word "classic" refers to a specific label applied to Disney's theatrically released animated features, and not to the general definition of the word "classic."

However, it looks like it's not even a term Disney itself uses anymore:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mation_Studios
This usage probably arose from the old "Disney Classics" video line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_Classics

Which was then succeeded by the "Walt Disney Masterpiece Collection" line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Di...ece_Collection

Which was then succeeded by the "Walt Disney Gold Classic Collection" line, again using the word "classic":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Di...sic_Collection

Which was then succeeded by the "Walt Disney Platinum Editions" line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Di...tinum_Editions

Which is now being succeeded by the "Walt Disney Diamond Editions" line:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Di...amond_Editions

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My Top 20 Disney animated features (non Pixar):

1. Fantasia
2. Dumbo
3. Sleeping Beauty
4. Pinocchio
5. Beauty and the Beast
6. Snow White
7. Lady and the Tramp
8. The Jungle Book
9. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
10. The Emperor's New Groove
11. Mulan
12. 101 Dalmations
13. The Lion King
14. Peter Pan
15. Three Caballeros
16. Aladdin
17. Cinderella
18. Fantasia/2000
19. Bambi
20. Lilo & Stitch

Disney's Four CG-Animated films (in order):

1. Chicken Little
2. Meet The Robinsons
3. Bolt
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4. Dinosaur (I loathed this POS)

Pixar films:

1. The Incredibles
2. Toy Story
3. Finding Nemo
4. A Bug's Life
5. Toy Story 2
6. Wall-E
7. Up
8. Ratatouille
9. Monster's Inc
10. Cars (I still really like Cars. "Git er done" notwithstanding, this is a wonderful little movie)

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Pinocchio: A+
Dumbo: A
Beauty and the Beast: A-
Dumbo: A
Aladdin B+
Cinderella: B
Lady and the Tramp: B+
The Lion King: B-
Hercules: A-
Tarzan: B+
The Little Mermaid: A
Treasure Planet: B+
Snow White: A-
Bambi: A-
101 Dalmations: A
Mulan: C
The Aristocats: C-
The Fox and the Hound (never saw it)
The Rescuers: B
Princess and the Frog C+
Alice in Wonderland: B+
Atlantis: B
Brother Bear: B-
Pocahontas: B+
Peter Pan: B+
Robin Hood: B-
The Sword in the Stone: C
Sleeping Beauty: A
The Black Cauldron: C+
The Jungle Book: A-
The Rescuers Down Under: C
Home on the Range: F
Fantasia: A
Fantasia 2000: B+
The Hunchback of Notre Dame: B+
The Emperor's New Groove: A-
Lilo & Stitch: A-
The Great Mouse Detective: C-
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Chicken Little: B
Meet The Robinsons: B
Dinosaur: C-
Bolt: C

~
Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas: A
James and the Giant Peach: B+

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I agree with most of your list. My ratings below (using your list). Why in this order though? Just curious....


Beauty and the Beast: A
Dumbo: A
Aladdin A-
Cinderella: A+
Lady and the Tramp: A-
The Lion King: B-
Hercules: C+
Tarzan: C
The Little Mermaid: A
Treasure Planet: D-
Snow White: A-
Bambi: A-
101 Dalmations: A
Mulan: A
The Aristocats: C-
The Fox and the Hound (never saw it)
The Rescuers: B
Princess and the Frog (Haven't seen it yet)
Alice in Wonderland: B+
Atlantis: F
Brother Bear: B
Pocahontas: D
Peter Pan: A
Robin Hood: D-
The Sword in the Stone: C
Sleeping Beauty: A+
The Black Cauldron: C+
The Jungle Book: B-
The Rescuers Down Under: C
Home on the Range: C+
Fantasia: A
Fantasia 2000: B+
The Hunchback of Notre Dame: A
The Emperor's New Groove: A
Lilo & Stitch: A
The Great Mouse Detective: C-
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Chicken Little: B
Meet The Robinsons: B
Dinosaur: C-
Bolt: C

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Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas: A
James and the Giant Peach: B+[/QUOTE]

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why the order? I just copied and pasted Todd's (and part of Hokeyboy's) initial list since my left hand has a cast on it and I'm too lazy to edit my list into something coherent