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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

It seems the academy is yearly trying to fuck with good music that's in line to be a strong contender, seemingly because that music doesn't fit their tastes... see Jonny Greenwood's shafting in 2007 for There Will Be Blood.

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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt View Post
I agree with you. However, I think it comes from the fact that women aren't given the same opportunities to direct movies. There's got to be a woman equivalent of Paul Thomas Anderson or Coen Brothers, right?
I'm not even sure it's same opportunities; I imagine there's just far less interest from females in becoming directors.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Originally Posted by Aegean2007 View Post
Karen O's score for Where the Wild Things Are was just ruled ineligible for the Oscar's "Best Score" award:

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/en...category-12469

That and the cinematography were my favorite parts of that movie. It seems that if any of my favorite artists do a soundtrack, they are ruled ineligible - Karen O, Jonny Greenwood, and Nick Cave in the past few years.
On this news, the score race has changed thus:

Music (Score)
1. Michael Giacchino, ‘Up’ CFCA, AFCA, HFCA, PFCS, BFCA*, GG*
2. Alexandre Desplat, ‘Fantastic Mr. Fox’ LAFCA***, CFCA*
3. Marvin Hamlisch, ‘The Informant!’ BFCA*, GG*, CFCA*
4. Abel Korzeniowski, ‘A Single Man’ SDFCS, GG*
5. James Horner, ‘Avatar’ GG*, CFCA*
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

If Avatar gets nominated for best picture by the Academy, they should just get rid of the award altogether because the legitimacy will be gone.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Originally Posted by brocklanders View Post
If Avatar gets nominated for best picture by the Academy, they should just get rid of the award altogether because the legitimacy will be gone.
It's pretty much a lock for a nom. It's a commercial juggernaut and for some bizarre reason, a critical success, to boot. Time will tell whether the Academy will jump on the bandwagon and give it the win, though. Ten years ago they would, and last year they did, with Slumdog. But with they also chose No Country For Old Men and The Departed. It'll be interesting to see which academy shows up.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

With 10 movies up for nomination, I can easily see it getting a nomination. Can't see it winning given there's far less hype versus say, Dark Knight.
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Originally Posted by hardercore View Post
It's pretty much a lock for a nom. It's a commercial juggernaut and for some bizarre reason, a critical success, to boot. Time will tell whether the Academy will jump on the bandwagon and give it the win, though. Ten years ago they would, and last year they did, with Slumdog. But with they also chose No Country For Old Men and The Departed. It'll be interesting to see which academy shows up.
No...last year they DIDN'T. They shafted the commercial juggernaut and critically acclaimed film in the Dark Knight and rewarded Slumdog like it was the second coming of film making. Not going to start the whole debate again, but given the backlash they took from that, I wouldn't be surprised to see Avatar take in some awards as a means for the academy to regain some relevance in the general public's eyes. Although, this would obviously be the wrong move as Avatar, like Slumdog doesn't really deserve it in my opinion. I personally think this should be QT's year.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

You have a lot of hate there don't you?

anyway: I think they're so few women filmmakers that make really interesting films. Hell, using my film class most of the "good" directors (remember we're students sooo..good isn't all that great at times..) are guys. We have a class of 150. Out of how many groups there were there were few girls that directed good films, most of them were guys.

So you have a small number as is, and THEN you have a smaller number that make something worthwhile.

I'd like Bigelow, Cameron, or Tarantino to win. Tarantino for sure is a public fav, they all know him. Cameron is a big name yeah..but he's not a name dropper for the general filmgoer. When the general mass names a director Tarantino will be up there while Cameron may be a bit below or in the middle of that last if he's lucky.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Actually, Slumdog appears to be relatively well liked among the masses, the film geeks? Not so much, even with the Boyle stamp on it. I thought it was a pretty solid "feel good" flick. I still don't get the love for the soundtrack.

Oddly, I know more people that avoid Tarantino than seek him out ("Brad Pitt and Tarantino, two reasons to avoid the movie right there." came up more than once).. I'm the exact opposite but I don't see how he's the "public fav".

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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100105/...s_guild_awards

Producers Guild Noms:

Best Picture
Avatar
Star Trek
District 9
Up
Inglourious Basterds
The Hurt Locker
Precious: Based on the Novel `Push' By Sapphire
Up in the Air
An Education
Invictus

Best Animated Feature
Up
9
Coraline
Fantastic Mr. Fox
The Princess and the Frog

Documentary: "Burma VJ," "The Cove," "Sergio," "Soundtrack for a Revolution."

Long-form television: "Georgia O'Keeffe," "Grey Gardens," "Little Dorrit," "Prayers for Bobby," "The Prisoner," "Taking Chance."

Seeing as how this is considered the best representation of the Oscar best pic noms, I think Hurt Locker, Up in the Air or Precious will win Best Pic and have backlash accordingly. Though I liked Hurt Locker and enjoyed the hell out of Up in the Air. Haven't seen Precious.

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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/th...a-awards-12563
http://www.indiewire.com/article/hor...le_wga_scrpts/
http://incontention.com/?p=20368

It looks like the Writer's Guild is hellbent on rendering themselves completely irrelevant to this year's race for the two writing Oscars. The following films have been announced ineligible for a WGA nomination:

"A Single Man"
"An Education"**
"District 9"**
"Fantastic Mr. Fox"**
"In The Loop"**
"Inglourious Basterds"**
"The Road"
"Up"**

**If you've been following the precursors with myself at all, that's six of the films getting awards attention for their writing, four of the top 5 in the Adapted category and 2 out of the top 5 (including Tarantino, the frontrunner) from the Original category. Not that this should hurt their Oscar eligibility, but just don't be surprised if these scripts aren't on the WGA list this time next week.

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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Why would they be ineligible?
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Weren't written within the WGA guidelines or in the case of some, weren't written by WGA members. Tarantino isn't a member of WGA. He wasn't nominated for Pulp Fiction in '94, but went on to win the Oscar.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Academy pares down visual effects shortlist
'Watchmen,' 'G-Force' taken out of the running for Oscar
By Gregg Kilday

Jan 6, 2010, 03:20 PM ET

"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen"

The race for the visual effects Oscar just got a little tighter.

The Academy's visual effects branch announced on Wednesday that the shortlist of 15 movies, released in mid-December, has been whittled down to seven films that remain in the running.

"Avatar" heads the alphabetic list, followed by "District 9," "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," "Star Trek," "Terminator Salvation," "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and "2012."

The movies that have fallen out of contention since December are "Angels & Demons," "Coraline," "Disney's A Christmas Carol," "G-Force," "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra," "Sherlock Holmes," "Watchmen" and "Where the Wild Things Are."

All members of the visual effects branch will be invited to view 15-minute excerpts from each of the seven films on the new shortlist. Following the screenings, the members will vote to nominate three films for final Oscar consideration.

The 82nd Academy Awards nominations will be announced on Feb. 2.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Just give Avatar the Visual Effects Oscar already. This has to be the biggest lock of the whole ceremony.

For what it's worth, I think Transformers and District 9 will get the other nominations.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

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Just give Avatar the Visual Effects Oscar already. This has to be the biggest lock of the whole ceremony.

For what it's worth, I think Transformers and District 9 will get the other nominations.
District 9 is deserving because they are so imaginative and seamlessly integrated. But as to T2, are visual effects still good if they're visually incomprehensible? I'd like to see Star Trek in there over Transformers for this reason. Thought they should just name it the Cameron-Avatar Honorary Oscar for Visual Effects and find somebody else to give it to.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

The Academy's visual effects branch announced on Wednesday that the shortlist of 15 movies, released in mid-December, has been whittled down to seven films that remain in the running.

"Avatar" heads the alphabetic list, followed by "District 9," "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," "Star Trek," "Terminator Salvation," "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and "2012."
Would you like me to whittle that list down to one for you?
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

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District 9 is deserving because they are so imaginative and seamlessly integrated. But as to T2, are visual effects still good if they're visually incomprehensible? I'd like to see Star Trek in there over Transformers for this reason. Thought they should just name it the Cameron-Avatar Honorary Oscar for Visual Effects and find somebody else to give it to.
I totally see your point and hope that Star Trek '09 does get a nomination. ST: TMP from '79 is the only Trek movie that ever got a Visual Effects nomination (and that lost to Alien).

I wouldn't be surprised at all though if ST gets a Best Picture nomination.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Director's Guild nominees:

Kathryn Bigelow, The Hurt Locker
James Cameron, Avatar
Lee Daniels, Precious
Jason Reitman, Up in the Air
Quentin Tarantino, Inglourious Basterds


Those are your five films duking it out for Best Picture, if you ask me. Basterds, Hurt Locker and Precious have scored mentions from all the guilds thus far ... Up in the Air is missing SAG (though it did get three nods for individual performances, and wasn't exactly and 'ensemble' movie). Avatar is also missing SAG.

The actors make up by far the biggest chunk of the academy, almost a third. I'd rank the DGA next in importance, followed by the PGA (who seem to lean towards financial success, which means Avatar is in a league of its own). The WGA with all its omissions this year is almost moot.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Yeah, we'll know at least 4 of the 5 "real" Best Picture nominees when the Best Director nominations are announced. They often don't line up exactly between the DGA and Academy, so one of those 5 may not get a directing nomination (and that film probably has no chance of winning BP).
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Just saw Up In the Air. I thought it was very slow and depressing. Can't see it winning.
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Originally Posted by tedmcardle View Post
Just saw Up In the Air. I thought it was very slow and depressing. Can't see it winning.
You've provided the set-up and now for the punchline in 3...2...1...
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Yeah, we'll know at least 4 of the 5 "real" Best Picture nominees when the Best Director nominations are announced. They often don't line up exactly between the DGA and Academy, so one of those 5 may not get a directing nomination (and that film probably has no chance of winning BP).
I'm thinking Daniels and Precious are the weakest of the "Top 5".... look for a Haneke, Eastwood, Sherfig or Blomkamp to replace him come Oscar time. We'll see how the BAFTAs lean, I know District 9 did very well in the longlists.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS was the best film I saw last year...until the North American cut of John Woo's RED CLIFF came out. That film had such a quiet theatrical release that it didn't get any attention at all and thus won't be nominated. But it should be.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010

Originally Posted by tedmcardle View Post
Just saw Up In the Air. I thought it was very slow and depressing. Can't see it winning.
I agree. Very well paced and funny.

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