The New Yorker's "Best of the Decade"
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The New Yorker's "Best of the Decade"
Yes, I know these best of lists are subjective. But it's always fun to watch everyone's reactions. But this list has to be the worst ever. Number #8 being the biggest head scratcher. And while I enjoyed it, it's puzzling so many other great and landmark movies aren't even mentioned.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...printable=true
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...printable=true
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Obviously titled towards people who go to watch cinema. Those who watch films will scoff. MOVIE fans will be outraged.
Although I can't argue with The Darjeeling Limited. I'd put that in my Top 10 for the decade too.
Although I can't argue with The Darjeeling Limited. I'd put that in my Top 10 for the decade too.
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Dear God, what a pretentious list. And even only having seen well fewer than half of those, #8 was hardly my biggest "WTF??" on the list.
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I watch cinema and feel that the list is really, really bad. The Darjeeling Limited is a horrible film and not even close to The Royal Tenenbaums, which should be on the list. City of God, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Lives of Others, Mar Adentro, Amores Perros, Spirited Away, Ratatouille and A Very Long Engagement should be on that list. Also, Knocked Up is good, but certainly not Apatow's best.
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I watch cinema and feel that the list is really, really bad. The Darjeeling Limited is a horrible film and not even close to The Royal Tenenbaums, which should be on the list. City of God, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Lives of Others, Mar Adentro, Amores Perros, Spirited Away, Ratatouille and A Very Long Engagement should be on that list. Also, Knocked Up is good, but certainly not Apatow's best.
I'd put Eternal Sunshine and The Lives of Others on or near my top 10, definitely top 20. "Spirited Away" is Miyazaki's most overpraised work; he's done MUCH better. I liked "Knocked Up" a lot but Top 10 of the decade? REALLY? Give me the absurdist humor of "Anchorman" any day.
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I really enjoyed "Bottle Rocket" quite a bit. I haven't seen it in awhile but I remember loving the holy Hannah of it the first time I saw it, with a more muted (but warm) response the second (and last) time.
And I've yet to see "The Fantastic Mr. Fox". The way things look, I better hurry.
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I liked Mr. Fox more than Darjeeling, but then Tenenbaums and Life Aquatic are my two favorite films of his, so take that as you will.
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I'd like to comment and express my outrage but having seen only three on that list (of 26!) I'm afraid I'd just sound like an idiot.
I will say that Darjeeling is my favorite Anderson film.
I will say that Darjeeling is my favorite Anderson film.
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I watch cinema and feel that the list is really, really bad. The Darjeeling Limited is a horrible film and not even close to The Royal Tenenbaums, which should be on the list. City of God, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Lives of Others, Mar Adentro, Amores Perros, Spirited Away, Ratatouille and A Very Long Engagement should be on that list. Also, Knocked Up is good, but certainly not Apatow's best.
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Best of the Decade, Take Four
Posted by Richard Brody
You dont know your list until youve seen it published; maybe the reason for putting mine out yesterday with the unfriendly number (as they say in elementary-school math) of twenty-six films is that it awaited four friends to round it out, and there are four films that I find I miss from it as Id miss friends. Familiarity breeds, if not contempt, then casualness, and sometimes its works that are among the most affecting that get shoved aside in the dialectics and the polemics.
The first, in a foreshadowing, will rank high among my movie experiences of 2009: James Grays Two Lovers, which I discussed in a video clip a few weeks ago and which remains as potent as when I saw it at the beginning of the year. Another ranked high in my list for last year: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, by David Fincher, who there put digital technology to turn F. Scott Fitzgeralds slender fantasy into grand-scale melodrama. Jared Hesss Napoleon Dynamite, from 2004, was a remarkable début; its sweetness and loopy humoras well as its peculiar cultural isolationsuggested an exceptional sensibility, which Nacho Libre and Gentlemen Broncos have expressed even more profoundly and extravagantly, but Napoleons dance is still a moment of exquisitely mixed emotions. Then theres another documentary, which may be the movie Ive talked about the most this decade, because of the vast political scope its subject embraces: Terrors Advocate, Barbet Schroeders biographical view of the French attorney Jacques Vergčs, a story that involves far-left and far-right, freedom fighters and tyrants, liberal republics and their enemies and, in the process, makes surprising connections and traces the evolution, or, perhaps, the devolution of ideas and ideals.
Posted by Richard Brody
You dont know your list until youve seen it published; maybe the reason for putting mine out yesterday with the unfriendly number (as they say in elementary-school math) of twenty-six films is that it awaited four friends to round it out, and there are four films that I find I miss from it as Id miss friends. Familiarity breeds, if not contempt, then casualness, and sometimes its works that are among the most affecting that get shoved aside in the dialectics and the polemics.
The first, in a foreshadowing, will rank high among my movie experiences of 2009: James Grays Two Lovers, which I discussed in a video clip a few weeks ago and which remains as potent as when I saw it at the beginning of the year. Another ranked high in my list for last year: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, by David Fincher, who there put digital technology to turn F. Scott Fitzgeralds slender fantasy into grand-scale melodrama. Jared Hesss Napoleon Dynamite, from 2004, was a remarkable début; its sweetness and loopy humoras well as its peculiar cultural isolationsuggested an exceptional sensibility, which Nacho Libre and Gentlemen Broncos have expressed even more profoundly and extravagantly, but Napoleons dance is still a moment of exquisitely mixed emotions. Then theres another documentary, which may be the movie Ive talked about the most this decade, because of the vast political scope its subject embraces: Terrors Advocate, Barbet Schroeders biographical view of the French attorney Jacques Vergčs, a story that involves far-left and far-right, freedom fighters and tyrants, liberal republics and their enemies and, in the process, makes surprising connections and traces the evolution, or, perhaps, the devolution of ideas and ideals.
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Man, that is a pretentious list! And it's exactly what I would expect from "The New Yorker".
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Originally Posted by Pretentious Jackass wrote
Jared Hess’s “Napoleon Dynamite,” from 2004, was a remarkable début; its sweetness and loopy humor—as well as its peculiar cultural isolation—suggested an exceptional sensibility, which “Nacho Libre” and “Gentlemen Broncos” have expressed even more profoundly and extravagantly
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...#ixzz0YVF6rG30
Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...#ixzz0YVF6rG30
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Nacho Libre and Napoleon Dynamite are definitely in my worst of the decade list. Jared Hess should not be allowed anywhere near a camera.
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wow so much name-dropping and 'best ____ of the last 20 years' going on in that article. that he puts darjeeling limited and knocked up among those obscure titles, is almost a joke.
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Pretty pretentious. I like Time Out NY's list a tad better, even if it is less "prestigious"
Their list:
Note - Mulholland Drive is my favorite movie of the decade, which may make me bias toward the rest of the list
Their list:
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Note - Mulholland Drive is my favorite movie of the decade, which may make me bias toward the rest of the list
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Not only is this list for lovers of cinema, it's a list of films that got a single screen (invitation only) run in New York City for less than a week.
Legions of film critics have been fired in the last couple of years and this stuck-up a**hole keeps his job?
Legions of film critics have been fired in the last couple of years and this stuck-up a**hole keeps his job?
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I have to wonder: Was this list composed to reflect a critic's genuine evaluation of motion pictures released in the last decade, or is this pandering to his audience? I think it may be that both are true, and reflect the sort of ivory tower isolation that breeds contempt from non-critics. There is a suggestion of self-awareness if this is the case, as witness the inclusion of Knocked Up.
As I read this list, I could envision a Family Guy parody in which a critic is brainstorming his "Best of the Decade" list and resolves to fill it exclusively with the most obscure titles he can recall. Throughout this, though, he's watching Knocked Up and erroneously places it on the list. The next day, he sheepishly laughs it off as a joke to his coworkers, while secretly desiring to eschew his pretentiousness in favor of such "common" flicks.
As I read this list, I could envision a Family Guy parody in which a critic is brainstorming his "Best of the Decade" list and resolves to fill it exclusively with the most obscure titles he can recall. Throughout this, though, he's watching Knocked Up and erroneously places it on the list. The next day, he sheepishly laughs it off as a joke to his coworkers, while secretly desiring to eschew his pretentiousness in favor of such "common" flicks.
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While Brody doesn't seem to be the type of critic I'd read very often, I don't really see how this list makes him a "stuck-up asshole" anymore than having a list consisting almost entirely of mainstream Hollywood fare makes one a "film ignoramus" (or whatever.) He is writing to his audience, but he doesn't seem to have the arrogance and condescension of an Armond White. It is quite within the realm of possibility that these mostly obscure films are actually his favorites of the decade. The left-field choices like "Knocked Up" and "Napoleon Dynamite" only make it seem more likely that this is actually a list of personal favorites rather than just a list of "obscure" movies thrown together to look sophisticated.
Anyways - I've heard of eighteen of the films on his list and have seen seven of them, three of which ("L'enfant", "The Darjeeling Limited", "Saraband") will figure highly in my "best of decade" list.
And I do like the Time Out list that RichC2 a lot more - and not just because I've heard of all of the films.
Anyways - I've heard of eighteen of the films on his list and have seen seven of them, three of which ("L'enfant", "The Darjeeling Limited", "Saraband") will figure highly in my "best of decade" list.
And I do like the Time Out list that RichC2 a lot more - and not just because I've heard of all of the films.