The Fantastic Four - Reboot (2015, D: Trank) S: Teller, Jordan, Mara, Bell
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I'm glad they are rebooting it, but bringing back everyone sans Alba in a 1960's version would be perfect. Having a witty script should be priority and keeping more in line of Doom's royal roots. I do think that it would be best if Marvel had this franchise in conjunction with Namor, because of the natural fit. There are only so many Doom/Galactus/Sliver Surfer stories you can do.
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I kinda wish they'd a quick dip into the whole Mole Man monster scenario. Not necessarily actually having the guy but having the FF battle it out with these things in NYC. Kinda like the cover showed. That'd be badass.
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the thing needs to be cgi. him being shorter than the invisible woman/alba was beyond ludicrous. both FF movies were elektra bad. ROTSS was the first movie i ever walked out of, right after they turned the silver surfer into a sissy that's dependant on his board for his power. i have a feeling that disney will somehow buy the rights back. what disney wants, disney gets. i'm sure they will work out a deal worth a lot of incentives to Fox. i look at this way because disney has to, seriously, Fox is destroying the marvel properties they have. if Fox has their way with a reboot, expect to see chris klein and kristin kreuk in it. it will be streetfighter bad.
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I still loved Peyton Reed's take on the material when George Clooney was interested and have it be a period piece taking place in the sixties. Of course, that's such a risky take that Fox would never approve such an idea.
Bring on a reboot. Let's do this material right. It will 99.9% suck with a hack like Goldsman on board, but I'd love to get a director on board who is actually competent and loves the source material going in. I don't want the director of Barbershop or Taxi coming anywhere near this again.
Too bad that the only parts I enjoyed from the original were that of Chiklis and Evans in their roles and am curious if they'd even be considered for a reboot. Too bad McMahon never got to do anything as the material from the original films just downright sucked.
Bring on a reboot. Let's do this material right. It will 99.9% suck with a hack like Goldsman on board, but I'd love to get a director on board who is actually competent and loves the source material going in. I don't want the director of Barbershop or Taxi coming anywhere near this again.
Too bad that the only parts I enjoyed from the original were that of Chiklis and Evans in their roles and am curious if they'd even be considered for a reboot. Too bad McMahon never got to do anything as the material from the original films just downright sucked.
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As a long-time reader of FF, I thought the first two movies were tolerably OK, in that they got some of the things right. The biggest problem I had was Ian Grufford (however the hell you spell his Welsh name) as Mr. Fantastic. He's a fine actor in other stuff, but his "golly-gee shucks I'm just a loveable nerd" take on Reed Richards was just nothing like the RR from the comics. I think George Clooney would have made a great RR, and set in the early 60's---I would love to see that.
Also, I've always seen the FF as "A-list" Marvel characters, and it seems that they got the "B-list" movie treatment compared to some of the other Marvel characters.
Also, I've always seen the FF as "A-list" Marvel characters, and it seems that they got the "B-list" movie treatment compared to some of the other Marvel characters.
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It always seems to be up to the artist in the comics how big the Thing is. I like it when he is drawn bigger and bulkier. I used to love that Thing/Hulk rivalry.
Also in the films, i missed that very pronounced brow Thing has.
Also in the films, i missed that very pronounced brow Thing has.
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Next FF4 film, with new cast or not:
1: Fantastic 4 and Silver Surfer convince Galactus to not eat Earth. Silver Surfer/Galactus leave.
2: Fantastic 4 are blamed by "government officials" (whom are actually skrulls in disguise) around the world for all the problems going on and they are hunted to be arrested.
3. FF4 leave the Earth and get involved with the Skrull/Kree War in some other galaxy.
4. The Skulls disguise themselves as innocent victims of the war and make the Krees look like they are the bad guys (Skrulls pretending to be Kree). The Skrull leaders convince the FF4 to get blood/tissue samples from them, so that the Skrulls can make the Super Skrull(s) to fight against the Kree. The Super Skrull(s) is then created. Then the Skrulls show their true colors, and the FF4 realize that the skrulls were playing them and that the Kree are actually not the bad guys.
5. Kree & FF4 versus the Skrulls.
6. Skrulls are too powerful, so FF4 gives a call to Silver Surfer/Galactus. Johnnie Storm tells Galactus "Bon appetite!" Silver Surfer stops the skrulls and Galactus eats the skrull planet.
7. The FF4 go back to earth, expose the skrulls that were pretending to be government officials, and are punished - live as cows on a farm for the rest of their lives. The end!
1: Fantastic 4 and Silver Surfer convince Galactus to not eat Earth. Silver Surfer/Galactus leave.
2: Fantastic 4 are blamed by "government officials" (whom are actually skrulls in disguise) around the world for all the problems going on and they are hunted to be arrested.
3. FF4 leave the Earth and get involved with the Skrull/Kree War in some other galaxy.
4. The Skulls disguise themselves as innocent victims of the war and make the Krees look like they are the bad guys (Skrulls pretending to be Kree). The Skrull leaders convince the FF4 to get blood/tissue samples from them, so that the Skrulls can make the Super Skrull(s) to fight against the Kree. The Super Skrull(s) is then created. Then the Skrulls show their true colors, and the FF4 realize that the skrulls were playing them and that the Kree are actually not the bad guys.
5. Kree & FF4 versus the Skrulls.
6. Skrulls are too powerful, so FF4 gives a call to Silver Surfer/Galactus. Johnnie Storm tells Galactus "Bon appetite!" Silver Surfer stops the skrulls and Galactus eats the skrull planet.
7. The FF4 go back to earth, expose the skrulls that were pretending to be government officials, and are punished - live as cows on a farm for the rest of their lives. The end!
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The problem with the first 2 films is the script, the director, the guy that played Doom and Jessica Alba. She may hot as hell, but she can't act, much less play the role of the all-American looking girl Sue Storm when she is not fucking blonde or even white.
The script was horrible, but it was made worse when the director said that his films would not have robots, hence, Galactus would not appear in a physical form. As soon as he said that, he should have been fired. Ioan Grufford looks and sounds like Reed Richards, but he was in need of a better script and his interaction with Alba made him look like a fool.
They should not reboot, just re-cast and get a better script where they can fix what went wrong in the first 2.
The script was horrible, but it was made worse when the director said that his films would not have robots, hence, Galactus would not appear in a physical form. As soon as he said that, he should have been fired. Ioan Grufford looks and sounds like Reed Richards, but he was in need of a better script and his interaction with Alba made him look like a fool.
They should not reboot, just re-cast and get a better script where they can fix what went wrong in the first 2.
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Akiva Goldsman? Akiva fucking Goldsman? How has this schmuck not been run out of town yet is a mystery to me. Pretty much everything this hack has written and produced has sucked.
Live action FF is a bad idea anyways - they need to give it to Pixar and have them do a CGI FF.
Live action FF is a bad idea anyways - they need to give it to Pixar and have them do a CGI FF.
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Akiva Goldsman? Akiva fucking Goldsman? How has this schmuck not been run out of town yet is a mystery to me. Pretty much everything this hack has written and produced has sucked.
Live action FF is a bad idea anyways - they need to give it to Pixar and have them do a CGI FF.
Live action FF is a bad idea anyways - they need to give it to Pixar and have them do a CGI FF.
Pixar already made a FF movie, and it was great.
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I liked Down With Love quite a bit. Got a little weak in the last third. Would have enjoyed a Peyton Reed take on FF. Did anyone catch the FF comic book easter egg in the background of DWL?
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I didn't think the first two were that bad, just fun popcorn movies, nothing too serious. But I don't think a reboot would hurt. I'd be interested in an X-Men reboot, too. Maybe First Class will be great.
But I still think the Fantastic Four is a pretty lame comic team but maybe a good remake will change my mind.
But I still think the Fantastic Four is a pretty lame comic team but maybe a good remake will change my mind.
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What? They're Marvel's First Family. They're great characters that are maybe a bit too out there for a live action film to do right. BUT it's not impossible...it just needs a director with a great team and he/she be damn fluent in the world they are entering.
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First, they need to make the FF more dark and brooding ... change it up a little bit ... for example ...
Invisible Woman is a 12 year-old girls who develops her powers as a result of having been a childhood incestuous rape victim (and wishing she was invisible) ... played by Abigail Breslin.
Human Torch was a meth junkie whose mobile trunk-lab blew up ... played by Ryan Reynolds.
The Thing can still get his powers in space ... that's cool, but it only works one time ... no actor, character developed by Jim Henson's Creature shop and based on works by HR Giger
Mr. Fantastic ... uh ... is a stay at home dad -- like Mr. Mom -- who develops a severe reaction to the chemicals in all of the household cleaners ... uh ... Harrison Ford.
... and they need black leather costumes.
Invisible Woman is a 12 year-old girls who develops her powers as a result of having been a childhood incestuous rape victim (and wishing she was invisible) ... played by Abigail Breslin.
Human Torch was a meth junkie whose mobile trunk-lab blew up ... played by Ryan Reynolds.
The Thing can still get his powers in space ... that's cool, but it only works one time ... no actor, character developed by Jim Henson's Creature shop and based on works by HR Giger
Mr. Fantastic ... uh ... is a stay at home dad -- like Mr. Mom -- who develops a severe reaction to the chemicals in all of the household cleaners ... uh ... Harrison Ford.
... and they need black leather costumes.
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i always envisioned james cameron helming a fantastic four movie. too bad it will never happen. i just say if they get the characters right, they win over most of the comic book fans. but even that easy task Fox screws up badly. please disney/marvel, do whatever necessary and get all their rights back.
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I didn't have any problems with the 1st two Fantastic Four movies. I thought they were fun fantasy action flicks. Maybe Part 2 was a little too watered down for the Family crowd since it got a PG rating.
But, question is why is FOX labeling the 3rd movie a "Reboot" Actually I'm quite dumbfounded by this and the suits at WB wanting to do another Superman reboot.
I understand that maybe the scripts weren't that great and Tim Story is probably at best a B-movie director, but the 1st two FF movies made a shit load of money and have probably sold a shitload of DVD's and Blu Rays. Why can't they just keep it in the same Universe and just hire a new director and new writers who are alot more experienced with this genre.
I never heard anything about FOX or the suits at Marvel being unhappy with the 2 movies. IMO, I would assume a "Reboot" means they weren't happy with them for one reason or another.
But, question is why is FOX labeling the 3rd movie a "Reboot" Actually I'm quite dumbfounded by this and the suits at WB wanting to do another Superman reboot.
I understand that maybe the scripts weren't that great and Tim Story is probably at best a B-movie director, but the 1st two FF movies made a shit load of money and have probably sold a shitload of DVD's and Blu Rays. Why can't they just keep it in the same Universe and just hire a new director and new writers who are alot more experienced with this genre.
I never heard anything about FOX or the suits at Marvel being unhappy with the 2 movies. IMO, I would assume a "Reboot" means they weren't happy with them for one reason or another.
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As for Akiva Goldsman. You either like his work or hate it. The only one that I really hated obviously was Batman and Robin, but that was really early in his career, so I will forgive him for that.
He actually wrote a few episodes and directed 2 episodes of Fringe (FOX TV show) last season and they were excellent.
Looking at his IMDB profile, he's actually produced quite a few Fantasy/Action movies, so I think he's more than suitable handling this project.
He actually wrote a few episodes and directed 2 episodes of Fringe (FOX TV show) last season and they were excellent.
Looking at his IMDB profile, he's actually produced quite a few Fantasy/Action movies, so I think he's more than suitable handling this project.