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My Other Self 05-18-09 05:13 PM

MGM May Not Survive
 
I guess the thread-title is a little misleading since MGM has been in financial trouble for awhile, but this was interesting.


For the past few months, all we've heard out of MGM was development news related to its Fame movie, The Three Stooges and The Matarese Circle. It seemed like the Lion was getting ready to roar back as an independent producer next year.

But that might not be soon enough for the studio's debt holders. Although MGM generates roughly $1 billion in annual revenue, its free cash flow is only believed to be $500 million a year, which isn't enough to repay its $3.5 billion in debt, due next April.

So, the studio's owners (a Sony-led private equity consortium including Providence Equity Partners, TPG and Comcast) have formed a creditors committee and hired investment bank Houlihan Lokey to explore restructuring options. MGM's been pursuing the same for months through its own financial advisor, Moelis & Co.

For years, the studio's been generating revenue from its extensive library, but as DVD sales have dwindled that source of income has been running low. The studio also has a number of high-profile movies in the works, but they keep getting pushed back and, with the exception of this fall's Fame, won't be released until next year.

In fact, The Hollywood Reporter suggests the situation may be so dire that the studio might not survive to put out those titles:

Cash-flow concerns have sparked talk of auditors' potentially issuing a "going concern" warning by the end of June. Process insiders said those working on restructuring options are on high alert that business as usual is over for the Century City-based studio. But concocting a palatable solution for MGM -- whose operations have swelled in recent years to an estimated $150 million in corporate overhead -- may or may not prove doable, even for the smartest of consultants.

However, THR adds, "a well-placed source stressed that the issuance of a going-concern warning is a theoretical possibility but is considered unlikely. Short-term debt payments are relatively nominal, and MGM's revolving credit facility through JPMorgan Chase won't expire until next April."

Options being pursued include attracting new capital, selling studio equity, reducing operations and even, as a last resort, liquidating the company. But these are tough times to be seeking movie money and although MGM has been on the hunt for new capital for months, it hasn't found any yet.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mgm-m...cturing-2009-5

GoldenJCJ 05-18-09 06:10 PM

Re: MGM May Not Survive
 
Hmm, I thought MGM went under a few years ago. Actually, now that I think about it, I can't remember the last MGM film I saw.

They're only releasing 1 film this year? No wonder they're going under; how long did they think they could stay alive on catalog DVD sales?

And if it takes a movie studio to die in order to stop the release of a Three Stooges movie then all I have to say is Rest in Peace!

devilshalo 05-18-09 06:38 PM

Re: MGM May Not Survive
 
Well. if that's the case, they sure as hell won't be able to do the next 3 Bond films since taking the rights back from Sony as was apparant since Fox did the Quantum of Solace dvd.

PopcornTreeCt 05-18-09 08:58 PM

Re: MGM May Not Survive
 

Originally Posted by devilshalo (Post 9452266)
Well. if that's the case, they sure as hell won't be able to do the next 3 Bond films since taking the rights back from Sony as was apparant since Fox did the Quantum of Solace dvd.

If Sony buys back the rights and rehires Martin Campbell to direct then I'll be very happy.

animatedude 05-19-09 09:06 AM

Re: MGM May Not Survive
 
huh? didn't Fox buy MGM already?

Kim Olav Svines 05-19-09 10:06 AM

Re: MGM May Not Survive
 
MGM is owned by these companies:

Providence Equity Partners
TPG Capital, L.P.
Sony Corporation of America
Comcast
DLJ Merchant Banking Partners
Quadrangle Group

Fox only distributes their DVDs, after a deal MGM struck with Fox 2-3 years ago.

Gizmo 09-25-09 11:01 AM

MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/ex...ssible-outcom/


I've collected several knowledgeable accounts of what happened during yesterday's multi-hour contentious MGM conference call with bondholders who were "very loud and very upset". Here's why:

The call was for the benefit of the lenders, and MGM management made the presentation along with Stephen F Cooper, that Zolfo Cooper restructure specialist. MGM made a desperate plea for money because the studio had missed its numbers and was going to be out of funds very soon. "The implication was that it's teetering on bankruptcy," one source told me. MGM said it needed $20M in short-term cash flow to cover overhead, and an additional $150 million to get through the end of year and continue funding its projects, and to start Peter Jackson's Hobbit.

Some say the call lasted 6 1/2 hours. Others said it lasted 2 1/2 hours with lenders, and then the lenders themselves had a conference call that lasted another 2 hours. After the MGM presentation, several bondholders spoke, "and they were irate", an insider tells me. True, this regularly happens on bad news calls like this. But in this case the creditors who hold MGM's term loan debt blame Harry Sloan for MGM overpromising and then missing its numbers, which was discussed during the summer and why he was removed as CEO. "They're not happy that Sloan let the company go in this direction but they understand what’s going on. It’s unfortunate, but they get it that the company is in a distressed situation, and they have to figure out an action plan moving forward," a source explains to me.

The conference call was planned to present the creditors with a request, or forebearance, to waive interest payments on MGM's $3.5 billion killer debt until February 2010. Because if MGM doesn’t have to make those interest payments, then the studio can afford to use that money instead to fund the production slate. The bondholders couldn’t understand why the equity holders wouldn’t fork over the dough. But the equity holders aren’t interested in writing a check because they understand that their equity is way under water already, and there's no upside for them. So, in essence, the equity holders have already written off their investment in MGM. But the bondholders have that $3.7 billion of nominal debt currently trading in the secondary market at about $.55–$.57 cents on the dollar. It's been trading in this low $.50s range for a while, so the marketplace is saying that the company is not worth more than $.56 times $3.7 billion. (And that's probably high.)

As a result, the bondholders are not in a great situation and therefore not feeling generous. On the other hand, if MGM were sold off today, most investment bankers don’t think it would fetch more than $1.5 billion to $1.75 billion at auction. This would mean that bondholders would recover less than $.50 on the dollar. This would be an even worse outcome.

So the bondhholders said to MGM, in essence, that they were going to let the studio go bankrupt and collect their money since they'd be first in line to get paid. But Cooper explained that this would be the worst possible outcome for the creditors and the company. Because if MGM were forced into bankruptcy, then it would lose James Bond and the studio doesn't think it can stay alive without 007. Also, a lot of other issues would surface that would tremendously hurt MGM.

Also, if MGM goes through bankruptcy, that's a very expensive prospect (where only the lawyers get rich), and extremely disruptive (since who would do business with MGM in the interim) and won’t get the creditors what they want which is their money back. It's more than simply MGM losing Bond. The studio could lose a lot of other franchises.

I can’t tell you whether the bondholders will agree to the forebearance or not. It requires a 51% approval vote. But some of the smart people I've contacted do think the creditors will eventually realize that a restructuring of MGM outside of the bankruptcy process is probably the best course right now.

So what's next? MGM now has to formally ask for forbearance, and the bondholders formally respond.

The Bus 09-25-09 11:03 AM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
Very, very interesting.

Gizmo 09-25-09 11:06 AM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
So what happens to their DVD/BD catalog? Would Fox continue to distribute or would they have to stop?

Sony would likely buy Bond and Warner would take Hobbit. But damn...

Solid Snake 09-25-09 12:05 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
Yeah, Sony would buy Bond easily. Hrm....

Dr. DVD 09-25-09 01:36 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
So if Sony bought Bond, who would distribute? Not like Bond hasn't lost a studio or distributor in the past.

starman9000 09-25-09 02:54 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
Would this kill Stargate Universe?

anomynous 09-25-09 03:07 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 9731191)
So if Sony bought Bond, who would distribute? Not like Bond hasn't lost a studio or distributor in the past.

Sony?

Giles 09-25-09 03:49 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
I don't think 'Fame' will make a profit for the studio - but we wont know til the end of the weekend.

dx23 09-25-09 09:35 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
This has been going on for while and it's been expected that MGM will declare for bankruptcy sooner than later. They had reduced a lot of their catalog inventory and the feeling is that other studios will be bidding for their properties and assets when the bankruptcy happens. There is also a lot of questions on whether the rights of certain films. Will they go back to the producers and directors or will these films be available for the highest bidder? Films like Spinal Tap, the Hannibal Lecter series, Rocky Series, Bond, the international film catalog they own. Financial stupidity is what made them sell all those classic films like Casablanca, Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind to WB years ago.

DthRdrX 09-25-09 09:52 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if WB tries to gobble MGM up again. They were really close to taking over MGM properties and then Sony entered the picture. Many in the industry, including Sony execs, considered Sony's handling of the MGM catalog as a failure and Fox eventually got the distribution deal.

Gerry P. 09-25-09 10:03 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 

Originally Posted by dx23 (Post 9732046)
Financial stupidity is what made them sell all those classic films like Casablanca, Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind to WB years ago.

I get your point, but 'Casablanca' was a Warner Brothers production.

big e 09-25-09 10:22 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
I thought MGM went under a couple years ago, right about when that distribution deal with Fox started. And haven't they been going downhill since the mid-'80's?

Gerry P. 09-25-09 10:32 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 

Originally Posted by big e (Post 9732121)
And haven't they been going downhill since the mid-'80's?

They lost money throughout the 1960s. Kirk Kerkorian bought them (for the first time) in 1969 and the studio quickly declined to the point where it stopped releasing movies. They tried to reboot the production company in the early '80s with the acquistion of United Artists, but they floundered in debt and crashed again. So basically, they've been going downhill since the decline of the studio system.

My Other Self 09-25-09 10:35 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
Didn't they get a nice chunk of change when Turner bought their pre-1986 library? They were also able to acquire Orion in 1994 or so.. they couldn't have been doing that bad.

Living Dead 09-26-09 03:24 AM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
It seems like every possible thing that could happen to keep the Hobbit from being made has happened so far.

davidh777 09-26-09 02:05 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 

Originally Posted by Gerry P. (Post 9732088)
I get your point, but 'Casablanca' was a Warner Brothers production.

I was going to say the same thing: Casablanca was produced by Warner Bros. But I remember the first Casablanca DVD I bought had the MGM logo. One of those complicated rights things, I guess.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA240_.gif

DGibFen 09-26-09 07:54 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
As far as rights for Casablanca and other pre-1950's WB films go, here is what I found out: Turner Entertainment owned the rights to Casablanca (and others) due to an acquisition deal from 1986:


Turner Entertainment Co. was established on August 4, 1986 as a subsidiary of Turner Broadcasting System to oversee its film library after Ted Turner's acquisition of MGM/UA (which is now owned by a consortium led by Sony Corporation of America).

In addition to the studio, Turner got its library, which included nearly all of MGM's films up to that time, the former Associated Artists Productions catalog (the Warner Bros.' pre-1950 releases & the Fleischer/Famous Popeye cartoons)... Turner Entertainment also distributes films from RKO Radio Pictures, certain films from Castle Rock Entertainment (1994-1996) and New Line Cinema (1994-1996), and shows from TBS, The CW4Kids, TNT, Cartoon Network, Kids' WB, and PBS (1994-2004) on home video via Turner Home Entertainment, and after 1996, Warner Home Video.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_...ent#Background


Contractually, the MGM and Warner film libraries which Turner owned had been distributed by MGM/UA Home Video until their rights expired in 1999 at which point they were reassigned to Warner Home Video. This transaction also completed WB's re-acquiring of distribution rights to their pre-1950 library; it was absorbed into Warner Home Video after Time Warner bought Turner;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_...ent#Home_video


Casablanca was released on laserdisc in 1991, and on VHS in 1992 - both from MGM/UA Home Entertainment (distributing for Turner Entertainment), which at the time was distributed by Warner Home Video. It was first released on DVD in 1997 by MGM, containing the trailer and a making-of featurette (Warner Home Video reissued the DVD in 2000).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casabla...video_releases

And as to why it was released under the MGM label in 1997:


In 1997, MGM/UA began releasing its titles on DVD, just like every other major studio. Some of the films MGM released on DVD were from the Turner catalog, which they were still allowed to keep after Turner merged into Time Warner some time before because of their distribution deal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Hom...inment#History

ScissorPuppy 09-26-09 10:25 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
2001 and poltergeist where some of those titles to.
Anyone else know of the early mgm released/WB owned dvds?

Solid Snake 09-26-09 11:28 PM

Re: MGM might not make it... Bye-bye Bond and Hobbit?
 
Singin' In The Rain...

always takes me out of the film for some reason when I see the MGM logo at the intro...through all my life I literally thought it was an only WB kind of project.


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